Impossible! The deficit is falling as well as unemployment Obama wrecking economy

twostrokenut

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tokeprep said:
The constitution grants the federal government the power to print money--it's the source of the power to make rules, not a list of rules.
See now we are getting somewhere. This is a matter of opinion not law and completely repugnant to people who just finished sending England and her mighty Central Bank home with their asses bleeding. That was not an Economic War fought to establish Austrian Economic principals? Right, by your logic the colonists were not in debt to England. I would expect no less from a Keynesian.


You don't think that point of view is becoming less common as people learn the true nature of money? I mean everyone else of course lol. That's like trying to trick the genie that gave you 3 wishes by making your third wish for 1 trillion wishes, it doesn't work as evidenced by our debt. Hereyee people we've given the Federal Government a list of enumerated powers, one of which gives it the power to do what ever it wants.....reminds me of children thinking of the largest number and one finally saying "infinity times infinity". What a truly silly thing to say.

tokeprep said:
Or does the lack of an express grant mean the federal government has no such power?
The Constitution covers what happens in a Constitutional Government......so literally yes....""The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."....certainly a lot more has been assumed than was intended, or assumed to have been volunteered away by contract....it is within a persons right to contract away rights, felons do it all the time they have to sign it..... again our fault for being so complacent and ignorant as a voting populous. I remember no MLB clause in the Constitution certainly this must have been an enumerated power achieved by the printing press as well......


tokeprep said:
We can debate the "truth" all we want, but the supreme court has been clear for more than 100 years: the federal government has the power. That's that.

And around and around you go again ....putting "truth" in quotes as a lawyer would in his dictionary...saying court cases are like commandments written in stone, they are not sir......if you are going to bring those cases back up I will remind you that willing participation, by the public, in a private debt note currency system that literally is endorsed every time you sign the back of your check, is perfectly legal and lawful.....and this is what courts have upheld....now we are getting down to simplest form. I would remind you those decisions almost did not happen and were shot down as Unconstitutional many times before they were ruled that way.....does not mean that That's that by any means.


tokeprep said:
A bill of credit never has to be paid back. Never. That's the problem with debt monetization. I'm sorry you still don't understand this, especially since it's exactly what you're arguing against--the government's ability to spend money that never has to be paid back. That's the very fact that makes it evil: debt monetization is pure inflation.

Well goddam let's use your awesome logic here why didn't they just officially call them bills of "Never Have to be Paid Back and Get to Do What the Fuck Ever We Want" instead of "Credit"? Should I go fetch the definition of credit for you?

It gets paid back when defaults happen and economic growth and standards of living become stagnant and begin to sink.
 

UncleBuck

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See now we are getting somewhere. This is a matter of opinion not law and completely repugnant to people who just finished sending England and her mighty Central Bank home with their asses bleeding. That was not an Economic War fought to establish Austrian Economic principals? Right, by your logic the colonists were not in debt to England. I would expect no less from a Keynesian.
why don't you go ahead and make a long list of the successes of austrian economics :lol:

we can put the list right next to the conspiracy about communist scientists performing a decades in the making hoax to be "on the doll" for research stipends.

i swear, righties are living in an increasingly revisionist and deluded world every day.

by the way, the word you are looking for is principles. i prefer my economic analysis from someone with enough intelligence to master the art of 4th grade words.
 

twostrokenut

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why don't you go ahead and make a long list of the successes of austrian economics :lol:

we can put the list right next to the conspiracy about communist scientists performing a decades in the making hoax to be "on the doll" for research stipends.

i swear, righties are living in an increasingly revisionist and deluded world every day.

by the way, the word you are looking for is principles. i prefer my economic analysis from someone with enough intelligence to master the art of 4th grade words.
lol thanks for the editing work your check is in the mail I promise.
 

twostrokenut

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Soon as someone hands me my notes..............so I can speak.............someone...............seriously I can't work or think without my notes:wall:
 

UncleBuck

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What's going on over here?
our australian holocaust denying friend has just spammed the same link for the Nth time because he doesn't want us listing the credentials of ACC proponents, nor the overwhelming agreement among them about ACC.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
OMGZ communists are faking climate change! they're messing with my thermometers!

i thought it was 78 in my grow room, but it's really just 73 and the commies have gotten to me! what's next, fluoride in the water supply to make our babies gay commies?
But 't read the article, just make your usual ASSumptions. You're living proof no fluoride is needed...
 

UncleBuck

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There's quite a few in this thread have fun getting all caught up.
i've been following along, haven't seen anything.

i have noticed how keynesian principles have worked successfully over and over again, but austrian seems to just be theory preached by some rather odd people with rather odd ideas.
 

chewberto

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our australian holocaust denying friend has just spammed the same link for the Nth time because he doesn't want us listing the credentials of ACC proponents, nor the overwhelming agreement among them about ACC.
Interesting! Well see ya!
 

echelon1k1

New Member
our australian holocaust denying friend has just spammed the same link for the Nth time because he doesn't want us listing the credentials of ACC proponents, nor the overwhelming agreement among them about ACC.
Still waiting on the holocaust denial list and the questions you refuse to answer...

And you've NOT POSTED one set of credentials, not a single ONE. Just the claim and inference of "the world's top climatologists", "97% of scientists agree", "publishing climatologists"...

Repeating an AL GORE buzz word is not listing credentials. An alleged 3.5 GPA and you'd think you'd know this...
 

UncleBuck

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Still waiting on the holocaust denial list and the questions you refuse to answer...

And you've NOT POSTED one set of credentials, not a single ONE. Just the claim and inference of "the world's top climatologists", "97% of scientists agree", "publishing climatologists"...

Repeating an AL GORE buzz word is not listing credentials. An alleged 3.5 GPA and you'd think you'd know this...
why don't you take it over to the climate change thread instead of carrying out your yeast infection ennui over here?

you can go on refusing to list the credentials of the deniers (who you claim are numerous due to no consensus) while trying to make the credentials of the overwhelming number of scientists taboo by spamming your link over and over and over.

because if there's one thing we all know, it's that arguments are won when you spam the same link over and over and over again.
 
Rand Paul would make a good choice, if he didn't seem so dumb... I can't tell if he reminds me more of Stan Laurel or Harpo Marx ... He seems to be apeing the things his father said, but not making as much sense doing it...
 
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