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deephouser

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Greetings to all those in Club 600 this Friday night! I'm here tonight to provide an update of my first grow, and to try to dip into the collective knowledge of the more grizzled veterans for some advice on my plants. Forgive the funky formatting of this post - for some reason on IE the "Enter" button isn't working. So, you'll have text, pic, text - wall-o-text - just bad formatting. So please forgive me. First I'll start off with two pictures: first, of the canopy in the tent, and then one of the tops of one of the plants. From these pics, all looks good and on schedule. Monday will complete 5 weeks of 12/12.
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From here I'll get into some of the pictures that give me questions. Now, looking at the first two pictures you can see that the leaves at the top of the canopy are not yellowing, drooping, or generally look like they are on their way out. So, next is a picture of the lower portion of one of the four plants. Generally, every day I am removing about a handful of yellowing, weak, droopy, "soggy" leaves. Some have detached, others detach at the slightest pull or tough. Those that don't fall or remove at the slightest touch, I leave on there.
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In the first picture, you can also see how some of the lower leaves are "clawing" as they yellow up and die off. It also gives you an idea of how much vegetation I have lost so far. The next series of pictures are of some deficiencies or nute burn. As it is my first grow, I don't know. I do tend to think I have a CalMag deficiency, in general. But...not sure about these pictures. A week or so ago I was having a nitrogen deficiency, and so I did a couple of feedings with the Fox Farm Grow Big, in addition to the Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. This greened up the plants nicely, especially at the tops. Maybe I need to up the Grow Big for the bottoms that continue to lighten up and fall off, but I don't know. I also know that some of this just happens as you get farther into flower. Being my first grow...I have no idea, so that's why I am turning to the experts. The next pictures are some pictures of the deficiencies or nutrient burn - don't know which one. Please help!

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This last picture is towards the bottom of the plant, and is generally how they will look before the lighten up a bit more and fall off. The final picture is just a cola picture, for fun and pr0nz, but also to give another perspective of the plants.

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So, this is my update. Looking for any tips, advice, feedback, etc., to try and fix what's happening.

I will say that I do have a PH problem. My local water system has hard water, at about 250ppm, and with a PH of right at 9. I'm growing in FFOF, 25% perlite. I read that the FF nutes lower the PH a bit - but from what I've read not into the 6 range from where I'm at. I recently discovered the PH problem, and will be doing better going forward, adjusting PH after mixing up the nutes. I'm hoping that the soil has buffered enough so far to prevent lockout - but who knows. So, at the end of the day, this is the story of my plants as they are now. I really need all the help I can get. I'm going to try to format better on my phone...so if you're reading and the formatting isn't all jacked up...I fixed it :)

In the meantime...hope all are having a great Friday night! This thread is inspiring to me and seeing all of the great grows by experienced people really motivates me.
 

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deephouser

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Thanks, COF. What are you basing this on? I'm not questioning your expertise at all...just want to understand more than "look in the back of the book for the answers."
 
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F.M.I.L.Y

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deephouser said:
That's a nice looking outdoor plant. Looking very bush - what have you done to her to get her that way?
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Topped her a few times and a lot of Sup Crop. After I took these pics, i took off the top five tops of her.

I like big bush and I can not lie!

The dolomite lime will buff your soils pH bro!
 
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deephouser

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Well, that's a great looking lady. I've not gotten into super cropping - but I have done some light LST work and topped my plants. Prior to the topping, I attempted a FIM - but didn't think it worked at the time. Looking now, it gave the side shoots a chance to catch up - and the topping added an extra main cola and further allowed the side shoots to catch up. So now, my plants have bushed out and have about 5 or 6 main tops each. So I guess the FIM worked? :)
 
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Dezracer

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I logged on through the app just now and can't see anyone's pics. Not even the ones I think I just posted. Tried to anyway :-)
 
curious old fart

curious old fart

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I was basing my call on the leaf burn pattern (looks like a cal/mg deficiency) and your comment about your ph being high. Dolomite will lower your ph and add cal/mg into your grow on an indoor grow. Use hydrated lime for your outdoor grows...or as a topping on your compost pile. :peace: cof
 
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deephouser

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Excellent feedback, COF. Thanks a bunch. What are your thoughts to what's happening at the bottom of the plant? Is that just natural progression happening?
 
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deephouser

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Thanks. I definitely want to avoid that. At the next watering, I plant to flush. I am thinking of picking up the Fox Farm Sledge Hammer product. Any thoughts on that? I also don't know how to flush. I have read that I should use 3 times the normal amount of water that I normally use for a watering. But here's my question: does all of that water need to be PH'd down to a normal level? Or, can I use my normal tap for the first 2/3 and then for the last third use my PH balanced water, perhaps with the Sledge Hammer product added?
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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Reveg pR0n!!!

(This is the plant grown from a seed from dababydroman, the one with the blood-red/dark cherry red flowers)

And so it begins.
If all goes well she should start sprouting new leaves in a week or two or three.
Fingers are crossed.
:-)

 
curious old fart

curious old fart

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deephouser said:
Thanks. I definitely want to avoid that. At the next watering, I plant to flush. I am thinking of picking up the Fox Farm Sledge Hammer product. Any thoughts on that? I also don't know how to flush. I have read that I should use 3 times the normal amount of water that I normally use for a watering. But here's my question: does all of that water need to be PH'd down to a normal level? Or, can I use my normal tap for the first 2/3 and then for the last third use my PH balanced water, perhaps with the Sledge Hammer product added?
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You can't flush soil so please don't even try. All you'll do is eliminate your needed microbes. Just top dress the dolomite lime and water as needed. DOG pr0n coming up shortly. :peace: cof
 
curious old fart

curious old fart

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DOG @ 8 weeks. The a/c has caused the color change. she survived the mite attack. .Casey Jones @ 8 weeks....she yields good hard nuggets that are well appreciated. .....................................I have played with soils, hempy's and mix's and here is what I have found for the easiest grow and a quality, bountiful yield ................................I mix a bag of the jungle growth and the square foot with 25% perlite and lightly feed with the natural guard and blood meal at first feeding and then only when up-canning-twice if clones and three times if from seed. The liquid food is fed every two weeks. :peace: cof
 
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