FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

flowamasta

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I know i just got here and all... I say keep this one going (at least till I can get caught up!) LOL

Seriously, i agree that you have a lot of valuable info here and should continue in one place.
Thanx for the input :) looks like the votes are in!
cheerz again

Is that the same plant?!

Wow :O

You must have a magic wand :)

She is in overdrive now. Did you perform the Phos wash yet? It is amazing how your plants perform in the perlite. Can't wait to try this :)

Keep this thread going FlowaMasta.

Have you ever considered using the mainlining technique?


Cheers,
Mo
sure is the same plant :) seems as though i got the root rot under control, my next move is a flush and clean the system, it is time for XL, a few days later than usual, only because i wanted the funga-rid to take effect. I Understand the method with mainlining, i myself as a horticulturist think its a little overkill, and a little stressful to the plant, it does and can have its advantages ofcourse, but having the lower growth on the plant is a natural part of its course and also plays a part in placement of hormones and energy transfer, amongst other things. I have tried both methods myself and found than a minimal amount is better to take off, and earlier rather than later, this makes for strong stems over the entire plant and has little stress overall. Overall i found that taking less off gained a better yield and a much wider variety of ripeness and different flavoured buds throughout. Sometimes i've even found that the buds on the very lowest part of the plant can have the most INCREDIBLE terpenes and flavanoids! so different to that under the lamps high intensity. So yeah, i've more than considered, and i couldn't bare to chop my little thumb size nuggies away from their potential nodes....
But if the canopy is CRAZY thick up top, and signs of no light or little getting through, it will be MOST CERTAINLY obvious to ones eyes in the hydroponic setup because the buds will be lime green with little colour if they aren't getting enough energ and this can lead to health problems if up top is to dense,, where the intensity up to will create visual spectacles if the underneath is shaded to the point of no more than a 5w flourescent globe, than a good thinning may have been a benefit in such a situation. A tent is a great place for ANYONE to grow in, as the light has very little areas in where the light can escape, so even if you have a huge plant more often than not enough light will get through, and be reflected enough to get decent buds in the lower sections of the plant, sometimes some leaves can be removed in the mid section to allow for some more light, but again everything in moderation, that the key with most things in life right? ;) I think a good size outdoor plant would benefit more from mainlining where the energy transfer would be more efficient, under a big outdoory you can literally be shaded as you would know Mo :) oh would you ever. Your name should be 'MoTheTrueMonstaGrowa'

Thanx for reminding me of the XL.... now i'm scared again :p

Looking awesome as always flowie .... My vote is to keep it all as one ......
Thanx for the vote man! will do! and thanx again for the compliments, always welcome matey

I havnt had the time to go back through the old pages and discover"the method" sooo...keep it going bra...when you said you are happy you grew it sideways you mean you had side lighting on it only?
Thanx man! votes are the majority :)
By growing it sideways, i mean li terally sideways ;) i pulled the clone over as soon as she had roots and grw the truk sideway, so i already have over 10 tops and i haven't even topped her yet ;) going to be lots of tall witches hat colas all through my tent soon :) you wait! well, thats my goal! i have around 2 more weeks to fill the tent with green vegetation and already making awesome time. She will be double this in 1 week hopefully, and then cloning time!!! This will be a first for Amster Gold! and a true testament to the growing technique of both sativa/indica and hybrids all together! I am Lst'isng, Topping, Cloning and aggressively feeding this plant, trying to maximize her uptake and get in as MUCH food as i can! she's looking greener everyday now and my hopes are high :)
 

Mohican

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I remember that some of the colas on the WOG had different scents. That was a mind blower.

I think I like to fiddle too much and mainlining would just give me more work to keep me busy. Although this year I do not need the distractions. I need to take a week off and build a greenhouse!

Thanks for the complement! I did not do anything special - just watered and kept the bugs away. The sativa just needs way more time to ripen than last year's short season allowed. If I had grown it the year before, it was 80 degrees until new years and they would have doubled in thickness!


Cheers,
Mo
 

flowamasta

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I remember that some of the colas on the WOG had different scents. That was a mind blower.

I think I like to fiddle too much and mainlining would just give me more work to keep me busy. Although this year I do not need the distractions. I need to take a week off and build a greenhouse!

Thanks for the complement! I did not do anything special - just watered and kept the bugs away. The sativa just needs way more time to ripen than last year's short season allowed. If I had grown it the year before, it was 80 degrees until new years and they would have doubled in thickness!


Cheers,
Mo
yea, thats probably why i prefer the free outdoors! :) the plants seem to take on a much more defiant character, one half of my jack outside was much more dense than the other, and both sides creating a slightly different effect!

I cant wait to see your greenhouse! I seen a video with jorge cervantes and he had these incredibly huge outdoor seedling grown plants that outgrew the green house and were nearly 4m tall! he had thrown nets over to help, but god knows how he managed to place everything! they were OVER-grown to say the least! absolute mammoths! its amazing what the weather can do with small variations! we get no where near the long season you guys get over in California! so we have to be sneaky and grow through winter and re-veg to get even close to the gigantic thing you call a plant lol! but still i wont be running out of jack bush anytime soon! still a favourite taster, and i really cant tell which is more knockout now, the amster gold has cured so incredibly strong and still impossible to chop with a muller, so clean sharp scissors gets me half way through a morning chop and fills the house with a strong scent of eucalyptus and lime!? very strange

really man, you couldn't of come close to growing them awesome plants without having some sort of special growing gift my friend ;) They loved you, and you obviously deserved to be rewarded Mo, only the kindest and most generous get returns like that :p even if its just smiles! i dare say you'll be smiling until your next life :)
 

flowamasta

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Thanks! I hope I get to visit you some day!
likewise Mo :) California would open my eyes thats for sure! this Amster Golds keeping them almost firmly shut LOL!

I have some new shots of tonight, day 18, before and after the new and final tie-down.







Tie down time!!! :)









beautiful green, and healthy!!



Left side main top ( bottom branch that has reached up from bending the entire plant over. )



The right side Main MAIN top ( this is the original tip of the plant!! ) still not topped, but just look at her. Incredible.

 

flowamasta

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That stem is so thick already! What brand MH bulb do you use?
I actually use HPS the whole way through :) the bulb in the cooling hood is a Dual-Spec philips 600watt AGRO SON-T, i bought a box of them a while back, the best bulbs i've ever used. I think they might go by the SON-T PLUS now, not entirely sure. But they have more blue spectrum end than normal HPS, and a much more efficient green spectral output which is around 550nm on the colour chart and ideal for Chlorophyl transpiration, and also the most visible light to humans and plants. So if you give your leaves the right light they might transpire more, thus wanting more food.

My other HPS that i like to use in combination with the cooling hood ( in the right given climate ) is a ProGro 600 which has alot more red in it and creates alot more heat and i like to keep that nice and high in the tent reflecting down into the corner where my light output seems to be weakest. I only run that for a few hours a night during flowering mostly, just getting things setup now, and i will start to give her a dose of the other 600 now and then, just to get her used to the extra temp, sort of like going into summer. The plants react very well to climate changes and you can simulate to a degree, air circulation always being the key when manipulating climate.

Its amazing how much growth you get so quickly man, just awesome! As Mo said that stem is so thick already :D
:) she's surprised me also actually! i'll let her grow vertically now. Get her ready for a few tip snips ;) Sometimes i don't know what the hell i'm doing really, i just try something and see how it goes, for some odd reason though i do seem to have luck on my side growing the erb! The stem is going crazy thick! maybe it likes being bent over :p hehe its even done a complete twist, tying this girl down is like holding a horny pitbull away from an on heat poodle! she just wants to grow straight up!! See how se goes from here i guess!
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Gorgeous FLowa! your photos are always so sharp and crisp and make me feel like im right there with you
hope youve been well mate!
I came across this really awesome video and thought of you! Have you ever been to the Nimbi Austraila Mardi Gras? It looks like a really freaky fun time!
Aussie you all grow some seriously pOTENT herb! i wanna go!
[video=youtube_share;3SuOCf6xZF4]http://youtu.be/3SuOCf6xZF4[/video]
 

eastcoastmo

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I actually use HPS the whole way through :) the bulb in the cooling hood is a Dual-Spec philips 600watt AGRO SON-T, i bought a box of them a while back, the best bulbs i've ever used. I think they might go by the SON-T PLUS now, not entirely sure. But they have more blue spectrum end than normal HPS, and a much more efficient green spectral output which is around 550nm on the colour chart and ideal for Chlorophyl transpiration, and also the most visible light to humans and plants. So if you give your leaves the right light they might transpire more, thus wanting more food.

My other HPS that i like to use in combination with the cooling hood ( in the right given climate ) is a ProGro 600 which has alot more red in it and creates alot more heat and i like to keep that nice and high in the tent reflecting down into the corner where my light output seems to be weakest. I only run that for a few hours a night during flowering mostly, just getting things setup now, and i will start to give her a dose of the other 600 now and then, just to get her used to the extra temp, sort of like going into summer. The plants react very well to climate changes and you can simulate to a degree, air circulation always being the key when manipulating climate.


:) she's surprised me also actually! i'll let her grow vertically now. Get her ready for a few tip snips ;) Sometimes i don't know what the hell i'm doing really, i just try something and see how it goes, for some odd reason though i do seem to have luck on my side growing the erb! The stem is going crazy thick! maybe it likes being bent over :p hehe its even done a complete twist, tying this girl down is like holding a horny pitbull away from an on heat poodle! she just wants to grow straight up!! See how se goes from here i guess!
You definitely have something on your side bro, but i'd hazard a guess that its more skill than anything ;)
 

eastcoastmo

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Gorgeous FLowa! your photos are always so sharp and crisp and make me feel like im right there with you
hope youve been well mate!
I came across this really awesome video and thought of you! Have you ever been to the Nimbi Austraila Mardi Gras? It looks like a really freaky fun time!
Aussie you all grow some seriously pOTENT herb! i wanna go!
[video=youtube_share;3SuOCf6xZF4]http://youtu.be/3SuOCf6xZF4[/video]
Ah mardi grass, good fun :D lots of hippies and lots of weed, whats not to like ;)
 

flowamasta

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Gorgeous FLowa! your photos are always so sharp and crisp and make me feel like im right there with you
hope youve been well mate!
I came across this really awesome video and thought of you! Have you ever been to the Nimbi Austraila Mardi Gras? It looks like a really freaky fun time!
Aussie you all grow some seriously pOTENT herb! i wanna go!
[video=youtube_share;3SuOCf6xZF4]http://youtu.be/3SuOCf6xZF4[/video]
Thankyou Dr.!! :) been a little while, how have you been?

That MardiGrass looks AWESOME! i actually had little idea about what went on at Nimbin, i knew there was plenty of herb! but thats insanely cool :)
Every town needs this!! I'm still waiting for ' The culture High ' ( the union 2 ) Sooo anxious, can't wait for that guy to expose all the government bulldust on cannabis!
 

flowamasta

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I was just choppin a sesh, and i happen to think of you guys!! :) I had to share this with all of you, as just before hitting these with the snips, i thought..... wow, it almost looks like edible candy! So i took some macros up close in the dark using LED lighting, it really brings out the shine in the nugs. I'm still in awe even after a few weeks i still fins myself looking through the buds, and pulling little leaves off, and smelling them all over again!


Enjoy my bud porn! Amster gold is going beautifully, depending on how i feel shortly i will take some update shots, the XL has been applied, and i got the PH level perfect by the looks!! :)











 

HydroGp

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fDamn flowa you is gettin a protographer! Very beautiful! When cannabis becomes legal in Denmark those are the kind of pictures i would like on my walls. Wow im stunned. As always GJ. Amazing!!!
 

flowamasta

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fDamn flowa you is gettin a protographer! Very beautiful! When cannabis becomes legal in Denmark those are the kind of pictures i would like on my walls. Wow im stunned. As always GJ. Amazing!!!
Cheerz man! they actually uploaded a little darker than original for some reason, maybe too high res.... yeah, gotta love the Samsung cameras these days, so sharp and colourful, they make you want to take pictures of everything!

memories of Amsterdam Gold...... Soon there will be more!!!

 

eastcoastmo

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Hey Flowa, what genetics do you reckon she's made of? Its really hard to pick hey but damn she's so nice! You're probably the only one left with beans so i hope you guard them well...and make some more!!
 

flowamasta

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Hey Flowa, what genetics do you reckon she's made of? Its really hard to pick hey but damn she's so nice! You're probably the only one left with beans so i hope you guard them well...and make some more!!
I really wouldn't know for sure, if i was gonna guess i'm thinking skunk background BUT not.... if you know what i mean!? its got that strong familiar smell like skunk, but its different, yet still identifiable. I've also found mixed results confirming both sativa/indica varieties , so it was certainly crossed a long way down the line and has a very unique structure about her probably due to personal preference from many breeders....

If i was to compare to different strains with Amster it would be near impossible. It has soft mellow smoke like northern lights and a citrus twist like white widow, then it has this unusual hash like after taste that sinks into your gums and you literally taste for the next few inhalations of breath! She doesn't taste like she smells, but she does look like she bites ;) thats not to say she smells bad though! no sir, i just can't put my finger on it! its buttery...... no literally buttery smell, but a hint of muskiness if you can sniff past the first violent fumes and aromas..... LOL.

I will say she surprised the FUCK outta me.... excuse the language for the broadminded and is sure to please again!
 

Oo S0uP oO

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Renamed......Aussie Gold! Har de har..

....Funny stuff!

I will say that it has a skunk look to the leaf structure in a way, but built like a skyscraper too... maybe a northern lights type cross?? Its definitely an older strain if its true Acapulco Gold, so some type of original landrace cross I presume....someone help me here Im reaching;)... all I know is if there is a list I need to be on to get some genetics like that let me know what I have to do to get on it...;)-S0uP
 
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