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MrMary

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Hey folks. Just looking for y'all's input on over or under watered. Don't want to blow it now as this is my first survivor past day 9 in last 10+ attempts.
Planted seed 4/14,sprouted 4/18. 4" pot w/ Coco/perlite under 42w cfl temp-77 RH-50% and no nutes.Waterings- Initial moistening of coco before seed went in(distilled w/ cal/mag) and 2oz 5.8 tap H2O two days ago.thanks for any info and your time.
 

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bass1014

bass1014

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Wawa wawa please if i am not mistaken that coco is to be watered several times a day due to its drainage ..your in a small pot. So like the above said water it real good and feel the weight then when its dry feel the weight then you will know just by picking it up. Also coco has a slight nute content so water schedule is important or you can do a drip feeder
keep on growin
 
Moebius

Moebius

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bass1014 said:
Wawa wawa please if i am not mistaken that coco is to be watered several times a day due to its drainage ..your in a small pot. So like the above said water it real good and feel the weight then when its dry feel the weight then you will know just by picking it up. Also coco has a slight nute content so water schedule is important or you can do a drip feeder
keep on growin
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You're mistaken. :peace:
 
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MrMary

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Indeed the pot has holes and it does look and feel dry but after overwatering and damping off several lost causes,I'm afraid to overwater again. By weight it feels like there is some moisture left but would imagine not a lot.after looking at many pics of both over/under watered plants I cannot determine which it is and figured I'd ask for opinions. Thanks again for your input and your time.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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I have grown in coco for nearly 4 years.

I currently still grow in coco.


THAT LITTLE FUCKER IS HUNGRY!!

Coco has ZERO nutrients in it. You MUST feed from day 1.

I pre charge my coco with a 0.8EC nutrient mix and start my seeds in this.


Are you testing nutrient strength?

You must also water coco until you get 20% runoff. This helps to stop any salts from building up.

I tend to allow my coco/perlite mix to lose around 50% of its weight before watering again.



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SweetestCheeba

SweetestCheeba

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Ok so i dont mean to be rude but Jon i jus brought a brick of compressed coco and some perlite. your saying once i transplant my seedlings into it i should start feeding right.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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jondamon said:
I have grown in coco for nearly 4 years.

I currently still grow in coco.


THAT LITTLE FUCKER IS HUNGRY!!

Coco has ZERO nutrients in it. You MUST feed from day 1.

I pre charge my coco with a 0.8EC nutrient mix and start my seeds in this.


Are you testing nutrient strength?

You must also water coco until you get 20% runoff. This helps to stop any salts from building up.

I tend to allow my coco/perlite mix to lose around 50% of its weight before watering again.



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Not true. I'm afraid.

In Coir, the concentrations of available nitrogen, calcium, magnesium and micro-elements are low, while those of phosphorus and potassium are quite high (0.28-2.81 mol m[-3] and 2.97-52.66 mol m for P and K, respectively). Its also relatively high in sodium. :peace:
 
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MrMary

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Yes I have a ppm meter for checking nute solution.I dug to bottom of pot and was almost bone dry so I gave it an 8oz drink of 200ppm seedling nutrients(fox farm trio) and wet it enough to get some run off. We'll see in the am what it thinks of it. Thanks.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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MrMary said:
Yes I have a ppm meter for checking nute solution.I dug to bottom of pot and was almost bone dry so I gave it an 8oz drink of 200ppm seedling nutrients(fox farm trio) and wet it enough to get some run off. We'll see in the am what it thinks of it. Thanks.
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Then the simplest answer is test your 20% runoff for strength.


If its leaving the pot less ppm's than it went in, then it needs feeding.





Fed from day 1. 3 weeks old from seed and currently receiving 1.2EC approx 600ppm at .5 scale and 800ppm at .7 scale.

Granted my comment about zero nutrients isn't entirely true as there are a small amount of nutrients in coco but not enough to sustain growth past 1 week.



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jondamon

jondamon

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SweetestCheeba said:
Ok so i dont mean to be rude but Jon i jus brought a brick of compressed coco and some perlite. your saying once i transplant my seedlings into it i should start feeding right.
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I'm saying before you transplant into it, once its been rehydrated you should pre charge it with nutrients.


I NEVER USE PLAIN WATER IN COCO.



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jondamon

jondamon

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Moebius said:
Not true. I'm afraid.

In Coir, the concentrations of available nitrogen, calcium, magnesium and micro-elements are low, while those of phosphorus and potassium are quite high (0.28-2.81 mol m[-3] and 2.97-52.66 mol m for P and K, respectively). Its also relatively high in sodium. :peace:
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Also so far in this thread you've told 2 people they are wrong without actually helping the OP.

Anything helpful to say????

Do you even grow in coco to have an opinion?



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Moebius

Moebius

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jondamon said:
Also so far in this thread you've told 2 people they are wrong without actually helping the OP.

Anything helpful to say????

Do you even grow in coco to have an opinion?



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I wasn't aware I was offering an opinion, just cold hard FACTS. Its really basic stuff but no need in misleading people, I say.

Whether I grow in Coco or not is irrelevant to your statement that it contains 'Zero nutes'. and just because you boast using it for 4 years doesn't make it any more true.

I think correcting falsehoods is 'helpful'. .. Do you agree or disagree?
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Yes I agree that correcting falsehoods is helpful.

And I'm glad you grow in coco and have 60-70 plants.

IMO you could have helped this guy out but you didn't. Instead you corrected other posters.

Coco is sold as "inert" therefore is just the same as any other hydro medium. Needs to be fed.



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