My 2013 Greenhouse Grow

BrownGuy420

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Hey guys I posted some pics in another thread but wanted to do a outdoor grow review in a greenhouse which I don't see to much of. My Greenhouse is still getting all the kinks worked out of it and I will be adding some more fans and I will be having it controlled through my GrowTronix enviromental controller to turn on fans and water my plants. Should be interesting to say the least. This will be my first greenhouse grow and I'm pretty excited to get it all on the way. I bought some BC Bud Depot's Girl Scout Cookies, Royal Queen Royal Cheese, Kerala x Skunk #1, White Widow, Sour Diesel and OG Kush. I feel this is a good line up and ready to put these ladies into their permanent pots in the end of May or first of June. In the greenhouse I laid felt on the ground so to keep weeds and grass down and dust when they start to flower. I decided to go with baby pools w/ the bottoms drilled out so that they can continue to grow into and thru the felt.

I got some good organic soil that I amended with a light supersoil mix, I made the mix lighter then recommended because I plan to water with Age Old Organics and Liquid Karma, Things so far are looking great and I am just waiting for 6-7 more weeks to go till it all begins....More to come!

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Doer

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Wow, nice. 10x20x10 is it? And I must say those kiddo pools look a nice way to go, if you are sure they are deep enough.

Nice strong looking starters also. Will you filter your intake air?
 
Rhizogenic

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I'd get at least 1, 50lb bag of gypsum. Supersoil will work, but it could benefit from added Calcium. Plus its only around 10$/50lb.
 
doublejj

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I love the greenhouses!
I grow in my own DIY greenhouse made from a carport
Looks good, good luck
 
BrownGuy420

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It's an 18'x20'x10' this i hope allows enough room for plants not to be crowded up to much and allow good air flow. I was a bit skeptical about those pools too at first and my buddy's been doin it the last few years and its been his best plant every time. The pools are 3.5' in diameter and 14" deep and i plan to build a 2'to3' raised bed box on top of them made outa fence boards. I have though about filtering the air and am kicking around some ideas but nothing in stone as of yet.
 
Rhizogenic

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BrownGuy, look into serenade or actinovate for applications when your plants start flowering. Unless you live in an area with low humidity in the fall, mold will claim some of your crop. Upping the calcium in your soil and spraying a preventative once a week during bloom with reduce your losses greatly. I'd go with actinovate over serenade because serenade smells like shit but both work.
 
Kevdogg5555

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no offense but if you have that nice of a greenhouse, why half ass the pots? Ive never seen that before, maybe you've had good success with that but I don't think its very ideal. You should invest in some smart pots
 
BrownGuy420

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Ya I have Actinovate on standby already, I figured that with a greenhouse in the late season that will be my biggest battle but I have a good sized dehumidifier if needed too. I think next year I'll end up in smart pots but some how I aquired these brand new kiddie pools and being on a pretty tight budget I figured why not, like I said my buddy does pretty well with em so I decided to go with it. So far the greenhouse, soil and everything else has cost me about $500 and I still have about $350 or so with nutes and two more fans for the other side so I have good airflow through it all.

My soil was pre-made with:

28yr old aged sawdust
Earthworm castings
chicken and dairy manure
salmon meal
OMRI minerals and microbial blend
(The advertisement I saw said OMMP friendly which I liked...lol)

I added:

feather meal
kelp
alfalfa meal
more earthworm castings
azomite
lime
humic acid
fish bone meal
blood meal
bat guano
rock phosphate powder
mycorrhizal endo and ecto
epsom salts

Attached is my garden helper and security...lolIMG_20130409_182832.jpg
 
BrownGuy420

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doublejj said:
I love the greenhouses!
I grow in my own DIY greenhouse made from a carport
Looks good, good luck
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I tried looking for one in the area that I live in and everything was to expensive so I said the heck with it and went with the hoop house. The only thing that I don't like is the curved walls cause it cuts out on grow space on one side of the plant if it gets that big.
 
a mongo frog

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Kevdogg5555 said:
no offense but if you have that nice of a greenhouse, why half ass the pots? Ive never seen that before, maybe you've had good success with that but I don't think its very ideal. You should invest in some smart pots
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U haven't heard of kitty pools growing monsters? Wtf? Where the fuck you been mars?
 
BrownGuy420

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Ya I'm legal and I should be okay where I'm at....I hope. The guy behind me has a 10' fence so he's off in his own world. Not sure if he grows too yet cause I just moved into my place this winter, but why else would you build a 10' fence around your whole entire property...lol...but other than him the lot behind me is empty and the neighbor on one side of me is some older people that don't look to care and the other neighbor is a hermit and possibly a bunch of tweekers or something but that's what the doberman is for and I also have a pit bull running around the yard too that sounds vicious as hell, plus I work in security alarms and camera's so I should be having the area on a level 3 lockdown....lol

and that's what I felt with the pools mongo, my buddy's plants are freakin monsters that he grows in em.
 
Doer

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Kevdogg5555 said:
no offense but if you have that nice of a greenhouse, why half ass the pots? Ive never seen that before, maybe you've had good success with that but I don't think its very ideal. You should invest in some smart pots
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Well, I'll disagree. Do-dads won't help here. Smart pots that size aren't smart to me. They would be a most expensive item. It's up on the equipment inventory to me. Nice for indoors.

I'm surprised he went up to the kiddy pools. But he said he got a good deal.

So, to me there are two other solutions that make sense. The blue pools make a lot of sense. I have one right now for the dogs. It a good suburban dual use item. :)

I've seen these in operation. The first is to rent a 2 man auger, with a drill on it the size of a 30 gal garbage can. Punch in the holes. Use the dirt as a berm around the edges of the greenhouse for wind anchor. Then instead of pools use the plastic garbage cans in holes.

This technique lets you keep your total height in the greenhouse. Plants grow from ground level.

But, the kid pool is just an upscale, no dig easy fill version of the tree sack. The entire business of larger scale, larger plant horticulture is not conducted with expensive grow containers. No the cheap route proved by history is:

Big burlap sack. Like the pools you can turn them. But, they are almost as wide as a pool but fill to 3 feet tall. A big, re-usable sack of dirt.

Lot's of stealth outdoor grows are in these sacks. You can get the sacks very wide and not so deep and it's the same as a kid pool with a cover. The might put in only 5 gals of soil. That's still a big hump up the raw hill. Can't leave any trail.

The sack will hug the ground like a big flat pancake of good dirt in a back. They cover the bag with forest litter. Almost impossible to spot.

I use to know a guy that set these up down a mile or so of logging road. Up on the best sun facing slopes. Maybe 30 plants dotted randomly. And he would arrange it so 3 plants would dot a very wide cluster maybe 30 yards. And he ran little black water lines down and joined them.

So, every week, he would take his truck with nute loaded water tank and drive the grow. 10 stops and he had done weekly feed.
 
Doer

Doer

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Kevdogg5555 said:
no offense but if you have that nice of a greenhouse, why half ass the pots? Ive never seen that before, maybe you've had good success with that but I don't think its very ideal. You should invest in some smart pots
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Well, I'll disagree. Do-dads won't help here. Smart pots that size aren't smart to me. They would be a most expensive item. It's up on the equipment inventory to me. Nice for indoors.

I'm surprised he went up to the kiddy pools. But he said he got a good deal.

So, to me there are two other solutions that make sense. The blue pools make a lot of sense. I have one right now for the dogs. It a good suburban dual use item. :smile:

I've seen these in operation. The first is to rent a 2 man auger, with a drill on it the size of a 30 gal garbage can. Punch in the holes. Use the dirt as a berm around the edges of the greenhouse for wind anchor. Then instead of pools use the plastic garbage cans in holes.

This technique lets you keep your total height in the greenhouse. Plants grow from ground level.

But, the kid pool is just an upscale, no dig easy fill version of the tree sack. The entire business of larger scale, larger plant horticulture is not conducted with expensive grow containers. No the cheap route proved by history is:

Big burlap sack. Like the pools you can turn them. But, they are almost as wide as a pool but fill to 3 feet tall. A big, re-usable sack of dirt.

Lot's of stealth outdoor grows are in these sacks. You can get the sacks very wide and not so deep and it's the same as a kid pool with a cover. They might put in only 5 gals of soil. That's still a big hump up the raw hill. Can't leave any trail.

The sack will hug the ground like a big flat pancake of good dirt in a bag. They cover the bag with forest litter. Almost impossible to spot.

I use to know a guy that set these up down a mile or so of logging road. Up on the best sun facing slopes. Maybe 30 plants dotted randomly. And he would arrange it so 3 plants would dot a very wide cluster maybe 30 yards. And he ran little black water lines down and joined them.

So, every week, he would take his truck with the nute loaded water tank and drive the grow. 10 stops and he had done the weekly feed.
 
BrownGuy420

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Ya my take on the baby pools is that they are easy to turn if needed, they hold about 120 gallons of dirt or so and they were free! I plan on constructing a small raised bed about a 2.5' x 2.5' box on top of each pool so when I transplant I will put my plant in the raised bed area and top it off with soil and she can grow into the super soil. I just amended all of my dirt last night and watered em up and will mound the dirt up once the dirt settles some so I know that I will have a good 14" - 16" in the pools, I know its not a lot of depth for the plants but that's kind of the plan to encourage wider root development for a wider plant. I also put a ton of holes in the bottom of the pools so that the roots can grow into the ground if necessary. I think this will do good for my situation, due to the fact that I can't go to incredibly tall but I can definately go for a wider 6' - 8' plant. Or that's the plan anyways....:weed:
 
Doer

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Well, I hate to bring a rain cloud, but better to think about it. Root Alphids. I've been reading about those pests, because though mainly in soil, it can be in my hydro, too.

It occurs to me that connecting your watering runoff directly to the ground to the bottom pool....well. Greenhouse has it's own set of problems with critters. And you will be inviting subterranean pests. But, I'm sure you have already cut the holes. Well it is worth mentioning because Phylloxria infestation will mimic all the other noob problems. Calcium lack, over watering, nute lock out. The poor plant is in trouble but displays the same as it does for other less serious stuff.

So, I'm only being friendly when I ask, are you sure you want the back yard as the greenhouse floor?

Fixing root alphid is almost impossible if it gets away from you.

Al lot of soil guys will vac up the run off water and check it for critters.

There is still time to cover in plasic and get your run-off water with a shop vac.
 
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