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Bobotrank
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I supplemented my last grow with an LED (veg spectrum) and the plants seemed to love it. I definitely felt that the plants that were getting a good amount of light from both sources had the best bud structure.Waddup fellas. Was wondering what your take on LEDs are? A friend of mine just droppet of two 90wLED ufos. It seems like a nice addition to where the hps does not really hit. Looks pretty and cant hurt im shurePicture spam!!
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giggles26
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Me to brotha. I haven't been on that shit in a deep min. I had it at the beginning but it quickly faded with me. I don't think I've been on there in over 3 years lol.
HydroGp
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Waddup blunt! Welcome to the club of awesomeness :=) Yea very pretty
When the 600 hps is on you dont even see the red light.My Diva is supposed to be finished in 3 weeks, Afghan Kush Ryder looks alot more frosty, but not nearly as big. How long would you flush your hempy buckets?
Turn the vents on max and dance!
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HydroGp
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I think Denmark has the highest % of facebook users compared to size. Not being on facebook would make me look like a criminal or some psycho lol
I dont use it that much. But i have to be there lol. Every one is.On facebook im just a family loving pet guy
wormdrive66
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You should also hang them upside down so all the THC drains out of the roots.I just fell over some talking about roots being soaked in water for 36hours prior to harvest. It should help extract (chlorophyll?) from the plant. Any input on that one?
Wohoo time for Weed Country
supchaka
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it took us like 6 fucking weeks to get our return. We filed like january 18 and they would only say there was some issues in the system
HydroGp
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Ah shit. Didnt even know i should have kept the roots on. The thread i found it in the guy said his grandpa boiled, yes -BOILED- the roots lol.You should also hang them upside down so all the THC drains out of the roots.
whodatnation
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Howdy 6 
Sorry Iv only skimmed the last two or three pages...
Not much to add, except "ILP" I love pr0n
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Sorry Iv only skimmed the last two or three pages...
Not much to add, except "ILP" I love pr0n
[video=youtube;fuqlRcmmyPw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuqlRcmmyPw[/video]
whodatnation
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[video=youtube;2Kve_N8rmmQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kve_N8rmmQ[/video]
jigfresh
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Not to worry mate. I think worm was just having a laugh. There are many tales around about how to get the most from your plant. Leave your plant in dark, drown it in water, starve it of water, shaking the plants, poking holes in the leaves, hanging them upside down with their roots on, harvesting on a full moon, harvest in the middle of lights off, etc etc. I'm sure some of them work, and some are hogwash. But all are fun to think about.
I loved the one thread where the dude just strait up tortured the plants at the end... put nails through their stalks, shaking the shit out of them. Was a pretty funny thread.
Me too.
HydroGp
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[h=2]"drowning ?[/h]
so i read this on riu has anyone tried this with autos ? if not i may give it a go with my next harvest unless someone can give me a good reason not to not shure on the science of it so thought i would ask here as im shure somone will have a better idea than me
Harvesting Curing Drying - Take Back the Knowledge
There is an old hippie growers myth that says to soak the roots in water for 3 to 10 days before harvest this is not to be confused with the flush that everyone talks about (you all know I don't flush before harvest, I flush always) the tip/myth is supposed to improve the quality of our smoke. I have to admit that I never paid it much attention until now because I have now proven it is not a myth and has some scientific validation.
What it amounts to is a way to start the cure prior to harvest while the plant is still alive. This is an incredible find as far as I am concerned and I can not wait to try it. what it amounts to is starving the plant of oxygen by drowning it, if in hydro take away the bubbles or spray fill the tank with water and wait, if in a pot either continuously water it (keep it wet/soaked) or stick the pot in a bigger bucket of water.
I need to add some background info as I'm getting ahead of myself, most of you know that if you add sugar and yeast together it ferments into alcohol giving off CO2. The basic definition of Fermentation is the act of breaking down sugars into alcohol and our plants do this internally thru a natural process even while growing. The act of fermentation is a oxidation/reduction process (explained in prior post) just as most plant functions seem to be. Also please be aware that N is needed for proper fermintation to take place.
Here is the info I found verifying that this old hippie myth is real,,,,,
MrMistery wrote
jules
Plants use photosynthesis to make sugars out of water, CO2 and sunlight. But a plant cell (like any other cell) cannot use sugars for their cellular processes, it needs to break down the sugars and make ATP. Basically, the only difference between humans and plants in this chapter is that plants make their own sugars, while we get ours from food. But we still both need to use those sugars, and we do that through cellular respiration.
@douglebod
Fermentation is strictly defined as any way of anaerobically degrade pyruvic acid and recycle NAD+ to keep glycolysis going. You can then categorize this process as lactic acid fermentation (where pyruvate accepts electrons from NADH directly and becomes lactate), alcoholic fermentation (where pyruvate is first decarboxylated to acetaldehyde which then accepts electrons from NADH to become ethanol) and others (which are much more obscure). So technically, human cells are able to carry out lactic acid fermentation. Liver cells also have the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (responsible for ethanol formation in yeast and other fungi), but we use it in the reverse direction so to speak to get rid of any alcohol which we consume by converting it to pyruvate.
Plants however, can carry out alcoholic fermatation. They don't normally do it, because plants are usually in contact with oxygen. However, if you flood the root of a plant for about a week the cells are starved of oxygen, and because of this they will start carrying out alcoholic fermentation to survive.
-Andrei
very true
that is what my bio textbook says.
just to complete the last part
in alcoholic pathway ethanol forms a waste while the lactate formed in the lactate pathway can be broken down further. that is what leads to the oxygen debt
found here,
http://www.biology-online.org/biolog...bout16671.html
and,
Alcoholic Fermentation In Plants
By the following, which we find in the London Gardener's Chronicle, it will be seen that the discovery is somewhat akin to those of Prof. Burrill and others in this country:
"When plants are deprived of oxygen gas it appears that alcohol is formed in all their tissues without the aid of any ferment. If a vegetable cell containing sugar be cut off from its supply of oxygen - be suffocated, in fact - the sugar it contains becomes broken up or changed into carbonic acid, alcohol, and other products. Moreover, the various alcoholic ferments only produce their effects under the same conditions. Alcoholic fermentation, then, depends solely on the suffocation of a living cell containing sugar. Starting from these ascertained facts, M. Van Tieghem, in a recent number of the Annales Agronomiques, alludes to a peculiar disease in apple trees due to a suffocation of the roots, followed by the production of alcohol in their tissues. On microscopic examination the tissues were found healthy, except the medullary rays, the cells of which, instead of containing starch or sugar, contained brown oily globules, the residue left after the formation of the alcohol, which latter is diffused throughout the root, tinging the cells of a characteristic brown color, and giving rise to an easily detected alcoholic odor.
Judging from these appearances what was the nature of the disease, M. Van Tieghem made inquiries as to the character of the soil, and from this, as well as the fact that the season had been extremely wet, his diagnosis was confirmed, and he in consequence prescribed efficient drainage as the remedy for the disease, and with good effect."
Found this. Seems interesting enough to try..
Harvesting Curing Drying - Take Back the Knowledge
There is an old hippie growers myth that says to soak the roots in water for 3 to 10 days before harvest this is not to be confused with the flush that everyone talks about (you all know I don't flush before harvest, I flush always) the tip/myth is supposed to improve the quality of our smoke. I have to admit that I never paid it much attention until now because I have now proven it is not a myth and has some scientific validation.
What it amounts to is a way to start the cure prior to harvest while the plant is still alive. This is an incredible find as far as I am concerned and I can not wait to try it. what it amounts to is starving the plant of oxygen by drowning it, if in hydro take away the bubbles or spray fill the tank with water and wait, if in a pot either continuously water it (keep it wet/soaked) or stick the pot in a bigger bucket of water.
I need to add some background info as I'm getting ahead of myself, most of you know that if you add sugar and yeast together it ferments into alcohol giving off CO2. The basic definition of Fermentation is the act of breaking down sugars into alcohol and our plants do this internally thru a natural process even while growing. The act of fermentation is a oxidation/reduction process (explained in prior post) just as most plant functions seem to be. Also please be aware that N is needed for proper fermintation to take place.
Here is the info I found verifying that this old hippie myth is real,,,,,
MrMistery wrote
julesPlants use photosynthesis to make sugars out of water, CO2 and sunlight. But a plant cell (like any other cell) cannot use sugars for their cellular processes, it needs to break down the sugars and make ATP. Basically, the only difference between humans and plants in this chapter is that plants make their own sugars, while we get ours from food. But we still both need to use those sugars, and we do that through cellular respiration.
@douglebod
Fermentation is strictly defined as any way of anaerobically degrade pyruvic acid and recycle NAD+ to keep glycolysis going. You can then categorize this process as lactic acid fermentation (where pyruvate accepts electrons from NADH directly and becomes lactate), alcoholic fermentation (where pyruvate is first decarboxylated to acetaldehyde which then accepts electrons from NADH to become ethanol) and others (which are much more obscure). So technically, human cells are able to carry out lactic acid fermentation. Liver cells also have the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (responsible for ethanol formation in yeast and other fungi), but we use it in the reverse direction so to speak to get rid of any alcohol which we consume by converting it to pyruvate.
Plants however, can carry out alcoholic fermatation. They don't normally do it, because plants are usually in contact with oxygen. However, if you flood the root of a plant for about a week the cells are starved of oxygen, and because of this they will start carrying out alcoholic fermentation to survive.
-Andrei
very true
that is what my bio textbook says.
just to complete the last part
in alcoholic pathway ethanol forms a waste while the lactate formed in the lactate pathway can be broken down further. that is what leads to the oxygen debt
found here,
http://www.biology-online.org/biolog...bout16671.html
and,
Alcoholic Fermentation In Plants
By the following, which we find in the London Gardener's Chronicle, it will be seen that the discovery is somewhat akin to those of Prof. Burrill and others in this country:
"When plants are deprived of oxygen gas it appears that alcohol is formed in all their tissues without the aid of any ferment. If a vegetable cell containing sugar be cut off from its supply of oxygen - be suffocated, in fact - the sugar it contains becomes broken up or changed into carbonic acid, alcohol, and other products. Moreover, the various alcoholic ferments only produce their effects under the same conditions. Alcoholic fermentation, then, depends solely on the suffocation of a living cell containing sugar. Starting from these ascertained facts, M. Van Tieghem, in a recent number of the Annales Agronomiques, alludes to a peculiar disease in apple trees due to a suffocation of the roots, followed by the production of alcohol in their tissues. On microscopic examination the tissues were found healthy, except the medullary rays, the cells of which, instead of containing starch or sugar, contained brown oily globules, the residue left after the formation of the alcohol, which latter is diffused throughout the root, tinging the cells of a characteristic brown color, and giving rise to an easily detected alcoholic odor.
Judging from these appearances what was the nature of the disease, M. Van Tieghem made inquiries as to the character of the soil, and from this, as well as the fact that the season had been extremely wet, his diagnosis was confirmed, and he in consequence prescribed efficient drainage as the remedy for the disease, and with good effect."
Found this. Seems interesting enough to try..
209 Cali closet grower
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[video=youtube;M_aSnLNxXfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_aSnLNxXfo[/video]
blunt8175
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hi again hydro mate,I ain't done a hemp in a long time but a week is long enough imo . I try to feed my plants for as long as possible as as I think if you leach all your mineral elements from your roots to leach nutrients out of the leaves and buds takes away the plants ability to produce higher yields so I use vitalink flushing agent with great results but you'll get a different answer from everyone you ask as its all down to what works for them but I used to do a flush for a week using just water hydro grows and 10 days soil grows,hope this helps but as I said before its what works for you that counts.
