friend hardcore defoliated couple plants... need some input

[skunkd0c]

when i wanted to learn to grow, a friend told me to go read everything UB posted. Good enough?

If it works for you and you are happy that is great, i would rather learn for myself than follow a specific guide
but then again when i started growing there was no internet

some folk appreciate the spoon-fed approach, others find piecing together all the information part of the pleasure, each to their own
peace

 

[skunkd0c]

How ironic you would wonder this in a thread that was started by a guy worried about his plants because his partner read some newbs post on defoliation ,and completely misinterpreted it, and ripped the thing to shreds. This is exactly why people ask for evidence to back the science behind an experiment prior to them writing it as the new great cannabis technique.

I am all for experimentation, but the first part of experimentation should be at least some basic research as to the science behind your hypothesis of your experiment. For example; if I hypothesize that covering my plants leaves with tar and feathers may make them create a "higher" end product, I may want to at least do a simple google search to find out what function the leaves provide. In that search I will find out that leaves use a process of taking nutrients and light (called photosynthesis) to produce sugars used in the plants sinks (calyxes/buds). I might then want to rethink my experiment based on blocking part of that process to create a better end product. It doesn't take a scientist to do this. Again this is why we have fools on this forum grabbing anything from oxyclean and zoloft-piss to dump on their plants.

this guide tells them to rip all the leaves off, leaving just a few have you read it lol ?
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163
starting in veg,

if harm comes to their plants so be it, they will learn hopefully from their mistakes

did you work out how to use TOR yet, ? lol
i am not fond of your colorful vivid analogies such a flare for the dramatic
kind of like those hyperactive kids that talk to much

you should not let what others do upset you, worry about your own plants, you can point them in the right direction, i think you know the rest

 

[skunkd0c]

Yeah, I said the same thing. I just don't buy it. Those plants look more like 6-7 oz.

glad you said that m8, even though it is pretty hard to guess the weight of a plant, i normally under estimate myself
i really did not think they looked anywhere near 12 oz, i have taken down many large plants, 10 oz plants in my space look much bigger than that
20 oz needed 2x 600 to cover it

peace

 

[akula]

did you work out how to use TOR yet, ? lol
i am not fond of your colorful vivid analogies such a flare for the dramatic
kind of like those hyperactive kids that talk to much

You know for someone who like to throw around claims that everyone is being a big bad meanie to them, you sure have are full of a lot of passive-aggressive insults you lay all around to everyone. This one thread is just completely full of them. Are you female by any chance? I have known many females that behave exactly this way.

Regardless I am done with you. All you seem to do here is argue with everyone using your passive-aggressive insults while crying about how everyone picks on you. I dont have time for that kind of crap. I do apologize for my fucking with you earlier, I figured you took it as a light hearted joke, but now I realize you took it very seriously.

 

[skunkd0c]

You know for someone who like to throw around claims that everyone is being a big bad meanie to them, you sure have are full of a lot of passive-aggressive insults you lay all around to everyone. This one thread is just completely full of them. Are you female by any chance? I have known many females that behave exactly this way.

Regardless I am done with you. All you seem to do here is argue with everyone using your passive-aggressive insults while crying about how everyone picks on you. I dont have time for that kind of crap. I do apologize for my fucking with you earlier, I figured you took it as a light hearted joke, but now I realize you took it very seriously.

you are too scared to share pictures, what use are you ?
you follow uncle ben around like a little cheerleader lol a little yes man anyone is free to use the search function to verify this

stop being a runt, be yourself, get over your fears learn how to use TOR, and get those pics posted and please stop the dramatic drivel

are you suggesting i am female as an insult ?
is it an insult to be female ?
i do sometimes fear i am talking with a bunch of teenagers

 

[chuck estevez]

If it works for you and you are happy that is great, i would rather learn for myself than follow a specific guide
but then again when i started growing there was no internet

some folk appreciate the spoon-fed approach, others find piecing together all the information part of the pleasure, each to their own
peace

Just following the links he posts can have you reading for a year, sorry my friend didn't tell me to read everything you wrote, MMMMMMMm wonder why that is?
for someone who cries about Ub being grumpy, I think your a bit of a hypocrite.

 

[ElfoodStampo]

I think ripping leaves off the plant creates an optical illusion. All the buds look bigger because they don't have enormous fan leaves to compete with anymore.
If your charging batteries with solar power, do you get a faster or more intense charge by ripping out solar cells?
IDK

 

[HeartlandHank]

If it works for you and you are happy that is great, i would rather learn for myself than follow a specific guide
but then again when i started growing there was no internet

some folk appreciate the spoon-fed approach, others find piecing together all the information part of the pleasure, each to their own
peace

I enjoy being able to feel like I'm learning or getting something done while laying in bed (reading a how-to). But I too learn better by doing. I found these forums extremely helpful with equipment choices, info on genetics, room design,, stuff like that. You don't want to learn what size fan you need from experience.. you want to find the right size without spending more or using more electricity than you need. Carbon filter size... you don't want to learn that it was too small to control odor when your door gets kicked in.

The problem with these cannabis forums is that there is so much bad information being put out there. It's not because there are not good growers on RIU.. It is because there are not many good growers on RIU who care to try and scream louder than the trolls to be heard.

When you decide you are going to write up that "HHank's how to %^&%*&" you just put yourself out there to be challenged.
While these challenges in a group of professionals would bring forth great things.... in our cannabis forums here it turns into screaming matches, insults, trolling.

I think you would be better served picking up a simple grow book... rosenthal.. cervantes.. whatever. Then just jump in with some bagseed under a T8 strip ($20) from the HDepot.

I am very very high at the moment and rambling but there has to be something of worth in there.

 

[elkukupanda]

I think ripping leaves off the plant creates an optical illusion. All the buds look bigger because they don't have enormous fan leaves to compete with anymore.
If your charging batteries with solar power, do you get a faster or more intense charge by ripping out solar cells?
IDK

There is a hormonal response when the plant is hurt and also the nitrogen level to ethylene ration dramatically changes so there is a response of fruit growth all of the sudden, however, keep in mind that all the food that was stored within those leaves its gone... long story short... less yield by time ratio..

 

[akula]

you are too scared to share pictures, what use are you ?
you follow uncle ben around like a little cheerleader lol a little yes man anyone is free to use the search function to verify this

stop being a runt, be yourself, get over your fears learn how to use TOR, and get those pics posted and please stop the dramati
are you sggesting i am female as an insult ?
is it an insult to be female ?
i do sometimes fear i am talking with a bunch of teenagers

No I think your a greasy no life troll that can't handle when people fight back so you cry like a little bitch. And your too stupid to figure out when someone just fucking with you. No wonder why so many have put you on ignore.

 

[skunkd0c]

Just following the links he posts can have you reading for a year, sorry my friend didn't tell me to read everything you wrote, MMMMMMMm wonder why that is?
for someone who cries about Ub being grumpy, I think your a bit of a hypocrite.

well its a pity you feel that way, each to their own
happy growing

 

[skunkd0c]

No I think your a greasy no life troll that can't handle when people fight back so you cry like a little bitch. And your too stupid to figure out when someone just fucking with you. No wonder why so many have put you on ignore.

you can sulk all you want, the fact is you are a follower and a runt, that is too scared to even post a picture of his grow

 

[chuck estevez]

I enjoy being able to feel like I'm learning or getting something done while laying in bed (reading a how-to). But I too learn better by doing. I found these forums extremely helpful with equipment choices, info on genetics, room design,, stuff like that. You don't want to learn what size fan you need from experience.. you want to find the right size without spending more or using more electricity than you need. Carbon filter size... you don't want to learn that it was too small to control odor when your door gets kicked in.

The problem with these cannabis forums is that there is so much bad information being put out there. It's not because there are not good growers on RIU.. It is because there are not many good growers on RIU who care to try and scream louder than the trolls to be heard.

When you decide you are going to write up that "HHank's how to %^&%*&" you just put yourself out there to be challenged.
While these challenges in a group of professionals would bring forth great things.... in our cannabis forums here it turns into screaming matches, insults, trolling.

I think you would be better served picking up a simple grow book... rosenthal.. cervantes.. whatever. Then just jump in with some bagseed under a T8 strip ($20) from the HDepot.

I am very very high at the moment and rambling but there has to be something of worth in there.

well said.

 

[ricky6991]

Yeah, I said the same thing. I just don't buy it. Those plants look more like 6-7 oz.

You guys do too many drugs... nowhere in this thread it say 10-12oz... i said so many times in this thread 8oz was what i was expecting each. I WANTED more but who the fuck doesnt... so yes what i WANT is 7.5lb. But a minimum id say i get i 8oz each. AFTER, what he did on those 2 we just wait and see how it goes which is point of this thread. It started off by seeing if people who do this would chime in. You would think after tons of pages in multiple other threads on this topic people who HAVE done this would chime in. Instead people just come and bicker. I just wanted to hear if they would recover based off EXPERIENCED people that DEFOLIATED... tons of people on posts for defoliating but so few EXPERIENCED in the matter.

From here on out the threads purpose since clearly only couple posts have had an experienced answer for me based on defoliating, is to see pictures showing how all fans were stripped and if/how it recovers and compares in yield. So if your here to bicker on same thing that has been bickered about in other threads in this month alone then go elsewhere...

You wanna comment then comment on why you think they will/ wont recover based off EXPERIENCE on growing or defoliating, comment about the plants or how much an ass my buddy is. Idk comment about anything REGARDING THE THREAD. Just dont please bicker about beat up subjects or you pulling a statement out of your ass cause you dont read well.

 

[skunkd0c]

You guys do too many drugs... nowhere in this thread it say 10-12oz... i said so many times in this thread 8oz was what i was expecting each. I WANTED more but who the fuck doesnt... so yes what i WANT is 7.5lb. But a minimum id say i get i 8oz each. AFTER, what he did on those 2 we just wait and see how it goes which is point of this thread. It started off by seeing if people who do this would chime in. You would think after tons of pages in multiple other threads on this topic people who HAVE done this would chime in. Instead people just come and bicker. I just wanted to hear if they would recover based off EXPERIENCED people that DEFOLIATED... tons of people on posts for defoliating but so few EXPERIENCED in the matter.

From here on out the threads purpose since clearly only couple posts have had an experienced answer for me based on defoliating, is to see pictures showing how all fans were stripped and if/how it recovers and compares in yield. So if your here to bicker on same thing that has been bickered about in other threads in this month alone then go elsewhere...

You wanna comment then comment on why you think they will/ wont recover based off EXPERIENCE on growing or defoliating, comment about the plants or how much an ass my buddy is. Idk comment about anything REGARDING THE THREAD. Just dont please bicker about beat up subjects or you pulling a statement out of your ass cause you dont read well.

dude, before you go off on one, we were talking about the plants in the link, below this guy claims the plants he defoliated average 10-12 oz
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163
not your plants
so maybe its you that does too many drugs ? lol its ok i forgive you for your mistake

peace

 

[ElfoodStampo]

There is a hormonal response when the plant is hurt and also the nitrogen level to ethylene ration dramatically changes so there is a response of fruit growth all of the sudden, however, keep in mind that all the food that was stored within those leaves its gone... long story short... less yield by time ratio..

So then the only appropriate time to do it would be what,, like the last 3-4 days? Perhaps it could be an alternative to flushing??
Thanks for the info,

 

[ricky6991]

Lol, ok im sorry. Had no idea where it was coming from lol. My fault. Thanks for easy response too.

 

[elkukupanda]

So then the only appropriate time to do it would be what,, like the last 3-4 days? Perhaps it could be an alternative to flushing??
Thanks for the info,

Why would you want to defoliate? First time double harvesting and i'm loving it. Try to keep as many leaves as possible so you can collect more for your time. Flushing? why? maybe you are over fertilizing your plants so unless that is what happened i wouldn't bother... I'm going to rely more on drying and curing it good...

 

[HeartlandHank]

Lol, ok im sorry. Had no idea where it was coming from lol. My fault. Thanks for easy response too.

No, you were right. I have been doing too many drugs lately. I'm going to eat healthy and stay sober for the weekend though.

 

[hotrodharley]

Between all the frigging nutrient posts and people butchering plants it's lucky man didn't start cultivating it until a few thousand years ago. It would have died with the dodo if we had started sooner.