LED Companies w/ LINKS

[roguetrooper]

Nice pics, Roguetrooper, I love seeing pics of LED grows. Thought I'd share some of my stuff too, as I just had an awesome harvest with great yields per plant and some seriously dense, sticky plant matter

I flower with a couple of the larger black dog LED panels, one of the old platinums and one of the new ones from the universal series. No complaints from me or my girls.

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I just posted the weights in my journal (check it out in my signature), this past grow was kind of a mini experiment for me and gave me a lot to think about.

Cheers MamaKush, Nice Buds! What strain was that one? How long did it flower for? What were the Trichomes like? they look very sugary, yum! Yup your LEDs work really well, just starting a couple of english cheese clones myself, already been veggin for 3 weeks and showing their sex already, all done by a mate and his 1000 HPS (will be swithing to LED soon), part of my experiment aswell to see how well they do under my LED.

Just looking through ya grow now, very nice, now thats some arse kicking LED power aint it? Wow. Looking absolutely superb. well done.

 

[hunter300]

Hello everyone Im new to this all looking at picking up 4 LED lights to start iv been researching for about a week. The ones im leaning to is the Blackdog XL-u and the Solar storm 800 also havent ruled out Fero yet id like to hear from thoes who have way more experience then I do. Ill take all the help I can get just dont want to waste my money on something is not going to work Im only useing them for flowering. Was thinking a 4 by 4 foot print was big enogh to put 4 plants under each that way they will have enogh room.

 

[roguetrooper]

Hello everyone Im new to this all looking at picking up 4 LED lights to start iv been researching for about a week. The ones im leaning to is the Blackdog XL-u and the Solar storm 800 also havent ruled out Fero yet id like to hear from thoes who have way more experience then I do. Ill take all the help I can get just dont want to waste my money on something is not going to work Im only useing them for flowering. Was thinking a 4 by 4 foot print was big enogh to put 4 plants under each that way they will have enogh room.

Hi Hunter and Welcome, Wow all those lights you mentioned are kick ass! Im in the UK so my choice of LED's are limited (due to delivery times, part returns etc..) but I would love to have a go at those babys! Would love to see those at work and the results they produce. Might even be convinced to import one over here. Best of luck to you and happy growing.

 

[ellydee]

Hello everyone Im new to this all looking at picking up 4 LED lights to start iv been researching for about a week. The ones im leaning to is the Blackdog XL-u and the Solar storm 800 also havent ruled out Fero yet id like to hear from thoes who have way more experience then I do. Ill take all the help I can get just dont want to waste my money on something is not going to work Im only useing them for flowering. Was thinking a 4 by 4 foot print was big enogh to put 4 plants under each that way they will have enogh room.

4 Black Dog 240s

 

[growingrob]

Hye guys I just came accross this article post yesterday...pretty good results I think... http://www.weedist.com/2013/02/rhinogrow-led-grow-light-comparison-conclusion/

 

[mamakush]

Hello everyone Im new to this all looking at picking up 4 LED lights to start iv been researching for about a week. The ones im leaning to is the Blackdog XL-u and the Solar storm 800 also havent ruled out Fero yet id like to hear from thoes who have way more experience then I do. Ill take all the help I can get just dont want to waste my money on something is not going to work Im only useing them for flowering. Was thinking a 4 by 4 foot print was big enogh to put 4 plants under each that way they will have enogh room.

Hey hunter,

I use black dog platinums myself, check out the link in my signature to see what I've done with them. I'm not a huge fan of the solar storms myself, I think the UVB is unnecessary, even a little destructive to photosystems. If you have the time, I recommend calling the companies to see what they have to say; that usually helps me make a decision.

 

[mamakush]

Cheers MamaKush, Nice Buds! What strain was that one? How long did it flower for? What were the Trichomes like? they look very sugary, yum! Yup your LEDs work really well, just starting a couple of english cheese clones myself, already been veggin for 3 weeks and showing their sex already, all done by a mate and his 1000 HPS (will be swithing to LED soon), part of my experiment aswell to see how well they do under my LED.

Just looking through ya grow now, very nice, now thats some arse kicking LED power aint it? Wow. Looking absolutely superb. well done.

Thanks, roguetrooper.

All of these are, of course, Sour Kush. Superb specimens, if I do say so myself.

And I do

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Hye guys I just came accross this article post yesterday...pretty good results I think... http://www.weedist.com/2013/02/rhinogrow-led-grow-light-comparison-conclusion/

I like the Rhinogrows.......but you do know that you can grow more than one plant under a 400w hps right??? the grower saying that he got 25% less yield(led) but saved 130% of power is bullshit/he didn't take advantage of the extra wattage from the hps.......and his plants look as unheathy as mine, which can significantly lower your yield

 

[hunter300]

Hey hunter,

I use black dog platinums myself, check out the link in my signature to see what I've done with them. I'm not a huge fan of the solar storms myself, I think the UVB is unnecessary, even a little destructive to photosystems. If you have the time, I recommend calling the companies to see what they have to say; that usually helps me make a decision.

Ill take that all in thanks so much ya might lean twards the black dog now, it says that black dog had built in uv as well? ill call this week and kinda sort things out alot of info to get threw tho.

 

[skunkd0c]

been looking more at LEDS recently, anyone had success with Helios http://www.bsled.com/led-grow-light/h163d-420w.html
or E.shine http://www.eshinesystems.com/grow/3g-300x3w-led-grow-light.html ??

the helios model is re-branded in USA as magnum plus 2
in the UK its re-branded under many names sky phantom, deepimpact
http://www.monsterbudledgrowlights.co.uk/index.php/sky-phantom-led-grow-light-s/sky-phantom-756-led-grow-light.html
http://www.ledhydroponics.co.uk/OnlineShop/tabid/88/CatID/6/DeepImpact.aspx
http://www.357magled.com/Magnum-Plus2_p_16.html

the E.shine model is re branded in USA as the diamond series
https://www.advancedledlights.com/3w-led-grow-lights/new-diamond-series-leds-extreme-3w-led-technology/

wondered what you guys thought of these lights
if they are outdated forgive me its been a long time since i have read up on leds

peace

 

[guod]

waiting for the middle man...
http://www.highwaytek.com/product/product166.html

more details(pics) in french, same leds different case
http://boutique.floraled.fr/18-new-spectrapanel-x144-18w-leds.html

 

[guod]

News from plantphotonics

115 Watt LED Grow Light - "Amethyst" Dual Spectrum
http://plantphotonics.com/our_lights_115Watts.html

20 Watt LED Light for Mother Plants
http://plantphotonics.com/our_lights_20Watts.html

 

[Beefbisquit]

News from plantphotonics

115 Watt LED Grow Light - "Amethyst" Dual Spectrum
http://plantphotonics.com/our_lights_115Watts.html

20 Watt LED Light for Mother Plants
http://plantphotonics.com/our_lights_20Watts.html

I feel like they should remove the 10 blue LED's and do straight up WW and NW. Nice high quality components though! That's always refreshing to see.

EDIT: EEEEK! $150 shipping??? On top of $550, for 115W? Errr.... That's $700 for 115W... not sure I see how that works... lol

 

[guod]

I feel like they should remove the 10 blue LED's and do straight up WW and NW.

doing that, and you will lose 70% in the blue part of the spectra.!-clever idea-!

 

[Eraserhead]

If they were to omit all their blue LEDs for whites, they'd have to redo their entire spectrum because they'd be too short on the blue spectrum.

I try to aim for 10-15% total blue in flowering.

If PP went from:

• 23 Red 630 Nm 3 watt leds The New Cree XP-E!!!
• 23 Hyper Red 660 Nm 3 watt leds
• 7 Cree XR-E Warm White 3 Watt leds
• 10 Royal Blue 430Nm - 450 Nm 3 watt leds

To:

• 23 Red 630 Nm 3 watt leds The New Cree XP-E!!!
• 23 Hyper Red 660 Nm 3 watt leds
• 7 Cree XR-E Warm White 3 Watt leds
• 10 Cool White 3 watt leds

They'd be less than 5% blue.

They look like decent lights nevertheless....

 

[FranJan]

been looking more at LEDS recently, anyone had success with Helios http://www.bsled.com/led-grow-light/h163d-420w.html
.......peace

Hey Skunkd0c, how goes it? I really can't speak for those panels but if you're in the UK you really should give Vipar panels a look. They've got some upgrades coming for their models and website (more info) soon and will talk to you all day about their products. Vipars perform very well for their price and my dealings with them have been nothing but spot on. Also many times what appears to be rebranded has little differences that make them inferior to what the original company is offering, so be wary of that. Good Luck and Happy Grownig SD!

 

[FranJan]

EDIT: EEEEK! $150 shipping??? On top of $550, for 115W? Errr.... That's $700 for 115W... not sure I see how that works... lol

Yup that shipping killed it for me. It's probably a combination of things including some excessive export tax/tariffs. Just one of the reasons you have to have shit built elsewhere. Fuckin governments killing their own people's businesses really.

Warm Whites in a Plant Photonics panel!!!??? Just fuckin shoot me now .

 

[PetFlora]

^^ Consider yourself bountied

 

[PetFlora]

If they were to omit all their blue LEDs for whites, they'd have to redo their entire spectrum because they'd be too short on the blue spectrum.

I try to aim for 10-15% total blue in flowering.

If PP went from:

• 23 Red 630 Nm 3 watt leds The New Cree XP-E!!!
• 23 Hyper Red 660 Nm 3 watt leds
• 7 Cree XR-E Warm White 3 Watt leds
• 10 Royal Blue 430Nm - 450 Nm 3 watt leds

To:

• 23 Red 630 Nm 3 watt leds The New Cree XP-E!!!
• 23 Hyper Red 660 Nm 3 watt leds
• 7 Cree XR-E Warm White 3 Watt leds
• 10 Cool White 3 watt leds

They'd be less than 5% blue.

They look like decent lights nevertheless....

I realize it may not be a straight math equation, BUT, out of 63 @ 3w diodes, divided by 10 @ 3w (CW)= 17%, + however much blue is in the WW.

To me the problem is too much actinic 630/660. 630 via WW provides 90%+ of what 660 does, so they're redundant.

Some strains will like a bit of a 660 bump during flower, so I would put ~ 10% on a separate circuit, OR, 10% x 2, but on 2 separate circuits, just in case

In my current grow (3 screw bulb leds) I was using one 6.5w/490L/5000K in the center + one 12.5w/3000K/1100L + one Utilitech 22w/3000K/1600L.

Plants looked very good, although a couple shades lighter green than I am used to + the leafs weren't droopy, but neither were they reaching towards the light.

Yesterday, I swapped the 6.5w for a 12w/5000K/850L bulb. This morning, both plants are reaching for the sky, so
16% vs 26% for veg

 

[Eraserhead]

Generally, warm white lets through about 10% of the blue, natural/soft/outdoor white lets though about 20% and cool white lets through 25-30%.

That can all change from one name brand to the next, but it is an average.

If it makes up 17% in diodes used, that really does not mean anything other than 17% of the diodes.

Here is a chart I made using Excel and data from 100w Cree XPG warm white, 6w of Cree XPE royal blue, and 10w Philips Rebel deep red.

As you can see, it only takes 6w of blue to make a similar amounts that the whites do.

And here's one more chart showing 100w of Cree XPG cool white and 15w of Cree XPE royal blue.

As for the 660nm, I think some plants can use it more than others, and levels of varies as well.

I think it depends on the genetics of the plant(s) grown, and where those genetics are from in the world.

I am a firm believer that plants like a full spectrum, after all they've been growing and evolving under a full spectrum for millions of years.

That is why some panels that have too much 660nm (mine are less than 25% deep red in the 2012 models) will be hit and miss from strain to strain.

My newest panels will have mostly Cree XPG Outdoor White, and a small boost from Cree XPE 630nm. I could have chosen to put deep red, but I do not believe they are necessary at this point with that much white. For plants that like deep red, they can get their 660nm fix from the whites.

I realize it may not be a straight math equation, BUT, out of 63 @ 3w diodes, divided by 10 @ 3w (CW)= 17%, + however much blue is in the WW.

To me the problem is too much actinic 630/660. 630 via WW provides 90%+ of what 660 does, so they're redundant.

Some strains will like a bit of a 660 bump during flower, so I would put ~ 10% on a separate circuit, OR, 10% x 2, but on 2 separate circuits, just in case

In my current grow (3 screw bulb leds) I was using one 6.5w/490L/5000K in the center + one 12.5w/3000K/1100L + one Utilitech 22w/3000K/1600L.

Plants looked very good, although a couple shades lighter green than I am used to + the leafs weren't droopy, but neither were they reaching towards the light.

Yesterday, I swapped the 6.5w for a 12w/5000K/850L bulb. This morning, both plants are reaching for the sky, so
16% vs 26% for veg