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600W C99 Organic Scrog

Adam & Cola

Adam & Cola

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Before I trimmed I couldn't push them down under because there were too many already. This was making it hard to train because my screen holes were full of fan leaves. If I was growing a tree I wouldn't clip anything but I didn't see any way around it with my setup..
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Good point. Didn't think of that. I'm gona have a hard time with these fat ass leaves.

Here's my C99. I think i'm finally starting to catch up to you. I think my screen is bigger for my one plant. so i got a about a week left for Veg before I flip. I also took a couple clones from the very bottom on Sunday. I'll throw them into flower as soon as I see roots to find out if this is a female or not. I'm also gona intentionally turn one to male (if infact it ends up being a she) so that I can get a lil pollen. i'll dust one of the buds to get some female seeds for future grows.

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Still got a little bit of time before I flip. But not much
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Mechanical

Mechanical

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Adam & Cola said:
Good point. Didn't think of that. I'm gona have a hard time with these fat ass leaves.

Here's my C99. I think i'm finally starting to catch up to you. I think my screen is bigger for my one plant. so i got a about a week left for Veg before I flip. I also took a couple clones from the very bottom on Sunday. I'll throw them into flower as soon as I see roots to find out if this is a female or not. I'm also gona intentionally turn one to male (if infact it ends up being a she) so that I can get a lil pollen. i'll dust one of the buds to get some female seeds for future grows.

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Still got a little bit of time before I flip. But not much
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Looking healthy man. Did you say that you are going to turn her into a male if she is a she or were you meaning you were going to try to get a bud to turn male for you with some CS and pollinate another bud? Ya I'd say another week or maybe a little less..
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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Stretching..
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This is about my normal temp and RH range. 77 degrees and 33% RH lights on and 63 degrees and 47% RH(A little high due to rain yesterday. Usually about 40%) lights off. I might put my humidifier on a timer to turn off with my lights to keep my RH down once they stop stretching. Wanna keep my RH as low as possible when they start budding..
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My UV-B stuff I'm about to setup.. Finished pics coming soon...
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Mechanical

Mechanical

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Not exactly how I wanted it but due to my small space and akward screen footprint this is what I came up with. It works. On from 2-8..

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Kite High

Kite High

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Mechanical said:
Not exactly how I wanted it but due to my small space and akward screen footprint this is what I came up with. It works. On from 2-8..

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Wanna share some info with you bro....I have implemented/experimented/and currently use uvb supplementation and have learned lots on the way

This is what I discovered AFTER employing a uvb meter

Takes a minimum of 150 ug/cm2 uvb to cause the ratio manipulation sought, and more than 400 causes no increase in effect only reduction in yield...the only lamps I tested, and there were bunches (spent more testing the lamps than I do growing with them now that I found the right ones...lol), that affordably produced the required uvb emission were the following

http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/ard3t546in54.html

and

http://www.reptileuv.com/megaray-metal-halide-uvb.php

I too went thru the rest of the reptile cfls and fluoros but they weren't accomplishing much of anything

And side of plant exposure seems better than overhead although I do both now with the 46" Ts HO on the sides and the MH overhead

Am not chopping on you nor your choice and placement just trying to save you some time and money and get you to the outcome you seek is all

Hope it helps

KEEP 'EM GREEN
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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Kite High said:
Wanna share some info with you bro....I have implemented/experimented/and currently use uvb supplementation and have learned lots on the way

This is what I discovered AFTER employing a uvb meter

Takes a minimum of 150 ug/cm2 uvb to cause the ratio manipulation sought, and more than 400 causes no increase in effect only reduction in yield...the only lamps I tested, and there were bunches (spent more testing the lamps than I do growing with them now that I found the right ones...lol), that affordably produced the required uvb emission were the following

http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/ard3t546in54.html

and

http://www.reptileuv.com/megaray-metal-halide-uvb.php

I too went thru the rest of the reptile cfls and fluoros but they weren't accomplishing much of anything

And side of plant exposure seems better than overhead although I do both now with the 46" Ts HO on the sides and the MH overhead

Am not chopping on you nor your choice and placement just trying to save you some time and money and get you to the outcome you seek is all

Hope it helps

KEEP 'EM GREEN
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Hmm. So your saying the ones I have won't help at all? I just bought the ones that everyone said benefited their plants. This is the same bulb I had in my last box and the placement sucked but the buds closest to the bulb had a noticeable increase in trichs.. I had no actual way to test for an increase in THC other than looks so I could have just been fooling myself:( How many watts is the MH one you posted? I like that one:) How close do you keep it and for how long?
 
Adam & Cola

Adam & Cola

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Click on the self ballast button and it will show a range from 100 to 275watts.

But good luck ordering.. on the left of the webpage is this.

January 7, 2013
  • Dear friends, as you know, the Mega-Ray is a special bulb requiring very specific requirements. Because of this and the fact that each and every bulb is hand tested and altered to stay as consistent as possible, we are always running behind. We have refused shipments that have not been within our specifications and had to wait for replacements. Our factories have gotten wise enough to know that its pointless to ship what we will not sell.

    Also because of the problems that were caused with the Black Box bulbs, we never order large quantities. Getting 2-3000 bad bulbs is just devastating and we are still trying to recoup from that disaster. Our most recent order was expected before the end of December. We have been testing new materials that will allow our bulbs to stay operational for as long as they produce UVB. This, our factory says has delayed the completion or our last order for 2 weeks. This moved the delivery of our order to our shipper to the 10th of January. We pay for air express with one of the world's best freight forwarders and generally we have delivery within 4-5 days. If anyone has a sick animal, as always, contact me over email or directly on my personal phone number listed on our contact page.

    We thank you for your patience and we believe you will be extremely satisfied as we continue to maintain the best UVB-UVI ratio and UV longevity in the world.
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Mechanical

Mechanical

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Haven't really noticed much crazy stretch yet but it has only been 3 days and I look at them all the time lol.. Just want to make sure I fill up the screen. The one on the right has more bud sites but the one on the lefts buds are gonna be much tighter..
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Want to try to document the progress of one cola from each plant when I'm home..
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Im not happy with the coverage of my hood so I'm most likely going to go buy two 2' two bulb T5s and mount them to the walls. I dont really want to spend more money but I also dont want to have weaker buds on the sides. It should be worth it.. I hope:) This hood would be better for a 3'x3':wall:
 
Mechanical

Mechanical

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Okay so I hit up the hydro store.. The 2 bulb 2' T5 fixture was $90 and I would need two of them. I couldnt justify spending $200 on side lighting right now.. So what I did was buy these singles for $30 each(with 2280 lumen bulb) that can be daisy chained together. I just bought 2 of them for now cause I can't mount them on the wall just yet cause they would be too far away to help at all. They dont have reflectors but once I mount them I will make one for them out of that roof ducting metal material that everyone uses. I built my own cfl reflector for my first box and it worked pretty good. For now they are just laying on the side of the screen about an inch from the closest shoot. They should help some. I have grow bulbs in there but I also went ahead and bought 2 bloom bulbs. My thinking for using the grow bulb for now is to try to keep the farthest shoots from the hps from stretching too much. When I mount them with two on each side I will most likely use a grow on the bottom and the bloom on top. Maybe till the end and then switch to all bloom. Does that sound right or would yall use a different configuration?

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This shoot closest to the T5 is what I mean about the shoots farthest away from the hps stretching. I dont like it..
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This plant isnt doing it so it might just be a pheno thing.
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Thundercat

Thundercat

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First of I think they girls are looking wonderful man. Seems like the one on the right looks a bit more sativa, then the one on the left, maybe I'm seeing stuff.

As far as light coverage ......side lighting is awesome. Is there any possible way to turn your hood and light the other direction, I bet you would get a wider swath of light across the whole garden. I'm trying to figure out how to do the same thing with my light or turn my table some how. The lights emit more light to the sides then to the end, so when I only have one tray set up I get a big section of wash light. Just a thought, but it seemed like it might help if it was an option.
 
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