Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013
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DiverseSanctuary
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[h=1]Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.[/h]
― Mark Twain
DiverseSanctuary
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guess that means he lives. So i am out of this, found out what i was here to learn.redesigning the world:
Ethical questions about genetic engineering
redesigning the world
for tw and those that don't understand that there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns that make genetic engineering a risk to us all that only serves the few, here is some recent news, but first lets review the fact that we don't really have any idea yet of what we are really doing when we start re-sequencing or redesigning dna, the debate ending quote of destiny:
[video=youtube;_w5jqqlqqtc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5jqqlqqtc[/video]
hitler's entire dream was based on genetic superiority.
What would hitler have done with the genetic engineering capabilities of today's technology?
Now imagine all the corporate mechanisms of control that exist in america and how such has been used over the years to bring even more centralized control.
Now imagine what those same corps and their puppet govs will do with genetic engineering technology?
Ibm and bayer and dupont etc are the same corps that were in business with hitler and were in full support of his dream of a master race.
Now ibm et al wants us all to help them 'build a smarter planet'...if anyone can add 2 + 2 then they should be able to add up whats going on with genetic engineering.
Some folks here it seems can only see a pollyanna version or piece of the picture that suits them such as how such technology could help us all, but unless put into the context of who's developing the technology and for what, such a view is like seeing the toe of a beast yet remaining blind to the rest of the body, especially the hungry mouth.
Its one thing to wish for good, but in this case its more like wishing for a less painful way to be eaten.
20 january 2013
'quadruple helix' dna seen in human cells
jonathan amos by jonathan amos science correspondent, bbc news
a representation of the four-stranded structure (l) and fluorescent markers reveal its presence inside cells (r) a representation of the four-stranded structure (l) with fluorescent markers revealing its presence inside cells (r)
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cambridge university scientists say they have seen four-stranded dna at work in human cells for the first time.
The famous "molecule of life", which carries our genetic code, is more familiar to us as a double helix.
But researchers tell the journal nature chemistry that the "quadruple helix" is also present in our cells, and in ways that might possibly relate to cancer.
They suggest that control of the structures could provide novel ways to fight the disease.
"the existence of these structures may be loaded when the cell has a certain genotype or a certain dysfunctional state," said prof shankar balasubramanian from cambridge's department of chemistry.
"we need to prove that; but if that is the case, targeting them with synthetic molecules could be an interesting way of selectively targeting those cells that have this dysfunction," he told bbc news.
Tag and track
it will be exactly 60 years ago in february that james watson and francis crick famously burst into the pub next to their cambridge laboratory to announce the discovery of the "secret of life".
What they had actually done was describe the way in which two long chemical chains wound up around each other to encode the information cells need to build and maintain our bodies.
Today, the pair's modern counterparts in the university city continue to work on dna's complexities.
Balasubramanian's group has been pursuing a four-stranded version of the molecule that scientists have produced in the test tube now for a number of years.
It is called the g-quadruplex. The "g" refers to guanine, one of the four chemical groups, or "bases", that hold dna together and which encode our genetic information (the others being adenine, cytosine, and thymine).
The g-quadruplex seems to form in dna where guanine exists in substantial quantities.
And although ciliates, relatively simple microscopic organisms, have displayed evidence for the incidence of such dna, the new research is said to be the first to firmly pinpoint the quadruple helix in human cells.
'funny target'
the team, led by giulia biffi, a researcher in balasubramaninan's lab, produced antibody proteins that were designed specifically to track down and bind to regions of human dna that were rich in the quadruplex structure. The antibodies were tagged with a fluorescence marker so that the time and place of the structures' emergence in the cell cycle could be noted and imaged.
This revealed the four-stranded dna arose most frequently during the so-called "s-phase" when a cell copies its dna just prior to dividing.
Prof balasubramaninan said that was of key interest in the study of cancers, which were usually driven by genes, or oncogenes, that had mutated to increase dna replication.
If the g-quadruplex could be implicated in the development of some cancers, it might be possible, he said, to make synthetic molecules that contained the structure and blocked the runaway cell proliferation at the root of tumours.
"we've come a long way in 10 years, from simple ideas to really seeing some substance in the existence and tractability of targeting these funny structures," he told the bbc.
"i'm hoping now that the pharmaceutical companies will bring this on to their radar and we can perhaps take a more serious look at whether quadruplexes are indeed therapeutically viable targets."
prof shankar balasubramanian prof shankar balasubramanian in front of a painting by artist annie newman that represents quadruplex dna
good news trend for yes voters:
Ibm to financialize water; the last frontier in monopolizing human rights and installing neo-feudalism
release date: January 23, 2013
issued by: Waterfund llc
new york, ny january 23, 2013 waterfund llc announced today that it has signed an agreement with ibm (nyse: Ibm) to develop a water cost index (wci).
Scientists from ibm research will apply big data expertise, acting as a calculation agent, to analyze large and diverse unstructured data sets. This will be used to develop of a wci framework that would estimate the cost of water in different regions around the world. With its market and financial product expertise, waterfund will work to structure and commercialize the wci.
Population growth, massive urbanization and climate change are placing increasing demands on our limited water supply. Forty one percent of the worlds population thats 2.3 billion people live in water-stressed areas; this number is expected to grow to 3.5 billion by 2025. And according to the united nations, water use has been growing at more than twice the rate of population increase over the last century.
With advances in technology deep computing and big data analytics linked to sophisticated sensor networks and smart meters ibm is helping clients and partners make smarter decisions about water management. By monitoring, measuring and analyzing water systems, from rivers and reservoirs to pumps and pipes, we can better understand the issues around water. Ibm is applying its expertise in smart systems and big data to help companies, governments and citizens understand and more effectively deal with these issues.
As governments are increasingly forced to turn to the private sector to fund the construction and maintenance of complex water networks, the rickards real cost water index will serve as a benchmark for helping measure hundreds of critical projects on a like-for-like basis. Index values will reflect estimated water production costs measured in us dollars per cubic metre for a variety of major global water infrastructure projects ranging from retail water utilities and wholesale water utilities to major transmission projects.
Carry on
Harrekin
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Have you not jumped off a bridge yet?
Damn, I wish I'd trolled harder, there'd be one less idiot using up water, oxygen AND food.
When someone is as stupid as you, they're basically just a small global warming machine.
(Please don't actually kill yourself)
ginjawarrior
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i think you'll find im waging a personal war against stupidity and liars in what ever form they takeI call bullshit, sorry bud, nobody in their right mind sits on a computer all day arguing in favor of GMOs. Unless you have some motive behind this contant battle nobody would spend as much time as you and monsanto hitler do on this thread. You two wake up every morning and battle it out with people trying to make the point that GMOs are safe. Why? Either you two have absoulutely no lives to attend to and dont get out of the house evaaaar, or you have a reason. Are you two scientists that work in the field, employees of monsanto, stock holders, whats the deal? Nobody gets that much gratification from pointing and laughing to make it worth the amount of time you and monsanto hitler spend on this thread. Real story please, yours has been debunked
you think i do nothing but sit in front of a computer all day defending monsanto when i actually have a job anad a family to take care of
(you might not consider that as "having a life evaaar" but i dont give a fuck what you think)
but when my day is done and little one's do be sleeping is when i burst into action trawling the web for blatant lies to be exposed and the overtly stupid to be educated
i care less about monsanto (or even GMO food) than the vile stench of dishonesty and knee high mess of dribbling idiots that fills this thread
its this infectious plight that i am here standing against as a voice of reason in a sea of blackness
we have people here that are hating naturally bred tomato's for being "GMO"
and people confusing a manufacturing process of cooking for the combination of genes in a plant
these idiots are even going so far as to try to legislate our lives from their unsupported irrational bullshit
i will fight tooth and nail against these lunatics bid at taking over the asylum
now that you've read all of that and understand my crusade
i know what your thinking and...
your welcome
ginjawarrior
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if you link me blogs that include that failed french "study" im just going to ignore them
no one said the fda tests anything
the quote from phill angel is from 1998
have you got anything more contemporary?
producers of GMO food knows its very unwise for their sales if customers drop dead from allergies
ginjawarrior
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you mean a 53 page link?
one that was left with no explanation, reason, question or point?
nothing to show you had even bothered to read it yourself yet because you dump it here we have to do work for you??
yeah it doesnt work like that
ginjawarrior
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so now your against medicine?
let me guess we should rely on crystals, pyramids and wishfull thinking to cleanse our chakra's of the pervading poison modern society places on our systems wich ngive the illusion of dying ana shit...
ginjawarrior
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and when have you done a like for like taste test? what food was that?
Ninjabowler
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thanks for your response, i dont know if i believe it but im sure you dont give a fuck about that. So how do you feel about the fact that mass produced GM foods are sold cheaply to processed food companies allowing them to offer lower price food products to the consumer? What are the benifits and downfalls of this fact in your personal opinion?
Figong
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Pizza, actually... ironically, it was with modified GM dough, which after eating. caused massive hallucinations, where I was running on a treadmill while being chased by my sport surgeon.. he was running on the treadmill as well, trying to slash me with scalpels. None of the statement before this sentence is true, I just figured I'd make up some stupid shit to say.
Harrekin
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That is TOTAL bullshit, the "pizza" you speak of was CLEARLY a bag of acid tabs.
EDIT: If this was really a pizza, is it legal and will they ship internationally?
I reckon I could out-run a fish...
Figong
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It's not genetically modified, but it could prove interesting.. scope this: http://www.cannabissearch.com/edibles/pizza/ Link has the recipe instructions
Ingredients list:
Dough:
3 � cups flour
1 oz. yeast
1 tsp yeast
8 fl. oz. water
1 tbsp granulated sugar
2 tbsp melted CannaButter (potency depends on dosage of your butter)
Toppings:
2 cups grated cheese of your choice
1 large can of chopped tomatoes
2 tsp freshly ground oregano
Any other desired toppings
5 tbsp melted CannaButter
ginjawarrior
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i think food getting cheaper is nothing but a good thing
processed food might not be the best food but that would be the same whether GMO or NON GMO goes into making it
there are some problems with "mass produced" monoculture farming but that isnt the fault of "GMO" nor is it synonymous with GMO
INFACT GMO does go a way to addressing/ lowering those problems
DiverseSanctuary
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I've heard it called by different names
All over the world, but it's all the same
There's so many ways to make love
A million ways, I've been thinking of
Oh yea
Chorus:
But there's only one way
There's only one way to rock
So many things can get you high
I'm gonna try em all just once before I die
And you can analyze this situation
To me it's all just mental masturbation
[Chorus]
Now quickly, check the hands on the clock
It's 8:05, it's time to rock
And this world can disagree
They don't understand how it can be
And it's not my point of view
It's a fact, and you know that it's true
[Chorus]
Crank up the drums, crank out the bass
Crank up my Les Paul in your face
All over the world, but it's all the same
There's so many ways to make love
A million ways, I've been thinking of
Oh yea
Chorus:
But there's only one way
There's only one way to rock
So many things can get you high
I'm gonna try em all just once before I die
And you can analyze this situation
To me it's all just mental masturbation
[Chorus]
Now quickly, check the hands on the clock
It's 8:05, it's time to rock
And this world can disagree
They don't understand how it can be
And it's not my point of view
It's a fact, and you know that it's true
[Chorus]
Crank up the drums, crank out the bass
Crank up my Les Paul in your face
DiverseSanctuary
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two can play the same ignorant game dr death. Perhaps your just a masturbator instead of a masturdebater and that is why you have to result to twisting shi#, ignoring what is right before you and name calling = reflecting again are we puppet boy
DiverseSanctuary
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how are these before and after shots for ya
before exposure to round up
after exposure to round up
before exposure to round up
after exposure to round up
DiverseSanctuary
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I read it, "The risks for the introduction of a GMO into each new ecosystem need to be examined on a case-by-case basis, alongside appropriate risk management measures, such as through the precautionary approach in the Cartagena Protocol and the IPPCs Pest Risk Assessment (PRA)."
Which means there is a risk..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
risk you know, like when you play Russian roulette
ginjawarrior
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lol what nonsense
thats before and after makeup you just got the pictures round the wrong way
not a looker in either of them
DiverseSanctuary
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Russian Roulette you know something all you who want to keep playing with guns, death, and instruments of destruction might understand..........