my 3 stages of flower

[BleedsGreen]

superstoner1 I pm'd you about the collars, still not sure I am doing the Pm shit right as it says I haven't sent any in my inbox. Please let me know if you didn't receive it.

Thanks!

 

[oceangreen]

also, ive been thinking about the sprayer manifold inside the veg unit.

is there any reason why there would be a problem if i went with like a Halo looking sprayer?
in other words, just a pipe coming from the bottom of the container, around the side middle. and then going up into the container. and then just a square circle of pipe with sprayers on it, with no legs? like a halo.
would the weight of the water when its in the sprayer be a problem?
what if i put pvc glue on the joints that would move due to any weight?
just wondering if simpler is better.

look, I say this to you only once.

DO it EXACTLY The way we are doing it. I realized after getting everything together the most important factor of SUCCESS is this. KEEP it SIMPLE, as EASY AS possible for YOURSELF. Forget wow factor and looking good, and coming up with new unproven designs

The main point of the setup up is to get alot of quality dank every three weeks, with as little upkeep as possible.

The veg system is pretty much perfect. I swear i get the lushest most green bad girls, with zero effort.

V system, make sure your run t5's and use the sunleaves 1 inch drains. I added a chiller just for the v room. amazing results.

F room takes time to dail in, because you have 3-4 systems in there, and you need to come up with a routine to get everything truly perpetual.

Build everything as we did. because thats the annoying part and strenuous part.Then, its getting the strains and the maintenance down. Then its getting used to the cleanup days. If you are running this whole system alone, it will definitely be a large part of your week/ day to day, put aside a minimum of 5 hours a week to keep everything running smooth and the usual checkins.

Most I haven't checked is 3 days.. I could go more, up to 5. Literally with out any ill effects.

for co2 go with the minigen and the cap ppm3 controller. and get a 24 timer to regulate between night/day

you need a dehumifier, and sink in the froom or a sink very close by with an attached spray hose.

So to sum it up. Only change design if you have to..based on your situation/ materials available, and do it the way we do.



I am happy to be apart of the SS crew.



PS: dont put PVC glue on the sprayer manifolds. You take then apart after use and soak in bleach to clean...

 

[oceangreen]

superstoner1 I pm'd you about the collars, still not sure I am doing the Pm shit right as it says I haven't sent any in my inbox. Please let me know if you didn't receive it.

Thanks!

I just got 5-6 colors of electrical tape, and give each net pot/strain a color...

 

[BleedsGreen]

Hi guys,

A little intro, although I feel I know some of you from reading the entire harvest a pound and this thread in the past week or so.

I inherited a rail system from a friend who was moving as he knew I always wanted to try hydro. All I got was one res set-up with two rails.

I didn't know anything about how this system began or that it was meant to be a part of a perpetual system, doubt the guy who gave it to me knew that. Anyway he gave it to me because he knew I used to grow indoor in soil and had all the lights etc.. I hadn't grown indoors for a few years since the wife and I moved out to the country, I could get away with a guerrilla grow that would produce enough for the wife and I for the year. Then he gave me this so I broke out all the packed away stuff and we built a 12 x 12 room in my basement. He gave me some 3/4 dead seedlings in rapid rooter cubes that we put in the rails as soon as we got it up and we started new seed then put it in the rapid rooter cubes, then into the rail when they were ready, so I am pretty sure he wasn't aware of how the three stages of this type system. He had me running some screwy organics and shit started to die. He had moved so I searched online (new to me with MJ, I started growing 20+ years ago and had to rely on books, jeorge and the boys from HT back then and always referred to them when I had issues. Got to the point that I really didn't need them with my soil grows and never really searched internet. So imagine how blown away I was with all the information available!! I am still over loaded after 3 weeks of reading everything that interested me in the forums.) After finding the harvest a pound thread I flushed those systems then refilled with about 1/4 of SB veg formula and everything has really turned around since I did that last Sunday, looks like they will live. Today I bought all the stuff for the cloner and veg. I will get to building those soon.

This is why I can't thank you guys enough, I am amazed at the wealth of information you all provide.

Question> Why is SS water so magical?

I have great well water, we have a lot of natural springs in this area and I live on top of a high hill. I measure from tap and my PH hovers around 6.85 and my ppms are 125 -130. When I got the system the guy told me I need RO water, so I bought the purifier and have been using that to make all my water. I have those 4 gallon water jugs I fill, 6 of them but I always wind up letting them overflow and waste a shit load of ro water. Just wondering if you guys think I need that and if so should I not filter the water for the cloner only veg and flower? Sorry I think I have read conflicting views.

Thanks again! I hope you will except me into your little community, I will try to help out whenever I can but for now I try to sit back end get educated! kiss-ass

You are an awesome group of sharing people!

 

[oceangreen]

Hi guys,

A little intro, although I feel I know some of you from reading the entire harvest a pound and this thread in the past week or so.

I inherited a rail system from a friend who was moving as he knew I always wanted to try hydro. All I got was one res set-up with two rails.

I didn't know anything about how this system began or that it was meant to be a part of a perpetual system, doubt the guy who gave it to me knew that. Anyway he gave it to me because he knew I used to grow indoor in soil and had all the lights etc.. I hadn't grown indoors for a few years since the wife and I moved out to the country, I could get away with a guerrilla grow that would produce enough for the wife and I for the year. Then he gave me this so I broke out all the packed away stuff and we built a 12 x 12 room in my basement. He gave me some 3/4 dead seedlings in rapid rooter cubes that we put in the rails as soon as we got it up and we started new seed then put it in the rapid rooter cubes, then into the rail when they were ready, so I am pretty sure he wasn't aware of how the three stages of this type system. He had me running some screwy organics and shit started to die. He had moved so I searched online (new to me with MJ, I started growing 20+ years ago and had to rely on books, jeorge and the boys from HT back then and always referred to them when I had issues. Got to the point that I really didn't need them with my soil grows and never really searched internet. So imagine how blown away I was with all the information available!! I am still over loaded after 3 weeks of reading everything that interested me in the forums.) After finding the harvest a pound thread I flushed those systems then refilled with about 1/4 of SB veg formula and everything has really turned around since I did that last Sunday, looks like they will live. Today I bought all the stuff for the cloner and veg. I will get to building those soon.

This is why I can't thank you guys enough, I am amazed at the wealth of information you all provide.

Question> Why is SS water so magical?

I have great well water, we have a lot of natural springs in this area and I live on top of a high hill. I measure from tap and my PH hovers around 6.85 and my ppms are 125 -130. When I got the system the guy told me I need RO water, so I bought the purifier and have been using that to make all my water. I have those 4 gallon water jugs I fill, 6 of them but I always wind up letting them overflow and waste a shit load of ro water. Just wondering if you guys think I need that and if so should I not filter the water for the cloner only veg and flower? Sorry I think I have read conflicting views.

Thanks again! I hope you will except me into your little community, I will try to help out whenever I can but for now I try to sit back end get educated! kiss-ass

You are an awesome group of sharing people!

we just joke about SS' water being magical.. Because he gets ridiculous yields...almost 3p in some runs. There is nothing magical his water. He is just a dam good grower


good luck with your new build

 

[zer0ed]

Thanks for your reply oceangreen

I do plan on running a system simular to the SS system.
and i do realize that doing things different, and then asking for advice, or asking advice because of doing things different, can be annoying.
I apologize if i have annoyed you in any way.

Ok, so here is my veg drain.
its a 1" ebb and flow drain, connected to a 1" black vinyl tube.
you can find them here
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=7761
http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/ebb-flow-inch-tub-outlet-filldrain-fitting-p-1654.html



I'm going to feed the pump pipe up one drain, which it fits perfectly into
and since there is little room left after the pump pipe is in there, i have a second drain, that will be the real drain

Here below you can see how the .5" pipe fits perfectly into the 1" drain.




And here is a picture of my veg table.
I purchased 8 foot 2x4's and cut off 2 feet from it. to make legs.
the table is 6feet wide, and 2 feet tall.




Thanks.

 

[BleedsGreen]

• I have great well water, we have a lot of natural springs in this area and I live on top of a high hill. I measure from tap and my PH hovers around 6.85 and my ppms are 125 -130. When I got the system the guy told me I need RO water, so I bought the purifier and have been using that to make all my water. I have those 4 gallon water jugs I fill, 6 of them but I always wind up letting them overflow and waste a shit load of ro water. Just wondering if you guys think I need that and if so should I not filter the water for the cloner only veg and flower? Sorry I think I have read conflicting views​
  
  
  
  

 

[dbloom]

I agree with Blee Green, After reading through the entire thread with such little complaining and allot of information sharing I believe I'm a all in. I've grown food in greenhouses with NFT's for years but it's time to retire. I have the perfect space and can't wait to start. It is a 2500 sqft garage that runs underneath the house. Really excited. Now I just have to finish the first 100 pages of SB. Thanks Guys

 

[OLD DUDE]

Use the well water, I would! Do to the system what fits your needs, I do the halo design with snap on tees for legs! If you haven't heard from SS yet, he is away from his computer!

 

[BleedsGreen]

Use the well water, I would! Do to the system what fits your needs, I do the halo design with snap on tees for legs! If you haven't heard from SS yet, he is away from his computer!

Thanks Old Dude, I will just go with the well water. I am building the cloner now.

Thanks again to all!

 

[OLD DUDE]

If you are making it with a top drain, the coupling is a waiste!!! I just take the top off, pull out the PVC and use a hose with a piece of PVC attached and push it into the adapter!! Many many ways to do it!!!!!

 

[cloneseed]

cloneseed checking in, still around often, been watching the plants grow. Finally adding my 3rd flower system tomorrow or the day after

 

[BleedsGreen]

Yeah that is how I do it with the rail so figured I would do the same with this. Thanks!

 

[chunkylonin]

Wow come in here to check in and catch up,Guy has some brass balls thats for sure.

 

[BleedsGreen]

Well got my cloner built today. I have more holes marked but this is more then enough spots for me at this time. I can always cut out more as needed. Here is a shot of the rail I inherited with the plants in veg.

Thanks again everyone!

 

[BleedsGreen]

Anyone? My Ph stays pretty stable but it seems my PPM's go up almost daily. Shouldn't that number be going down not up?

Confused!

 

[OLD DUDE]

If your ppms are going up, the plants are using more water than nutes! Drop you ppms a bit! In a perfect world, your ppms would always remain the same as the water level goes down!

 

[oceangreen]

DNA Kberry is the king of this system, hitting my ceiling...LMAO

 

[georgeforeman]

Anyone? My Ph stays pretty stable but it seems my PPM's go up almost daily. Shouldn't that number be going down not up?

Confused!

another underlying problem could be low rh causing high transpiration rates.

 

[BleedsGreen]

another underlying problem could be low rh causing high transpiration rates.

It stays right around 20 to 30% in that room is this too low? Hard to increase it as I currently have a pellet stove running in another room down there. I am seeing great growth since switching to the botanicare line and nursing everything back to health. Just trying to get educated and dial things in.

Thanks for the reply.