800 Watt Grow; Pakistan Ryder, cheese auto, white widow auto
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beginner.legal.growop
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Update 16-18 days in. Afghan Kush ryder is showing some horrible growth.
Cheese auto on the left. White Widow Auto in the middle. White widow auto on the right
(The mylar makes it look like I have more plants, but there are really only 4 plants in that pic) The Cheese auto is on the left, the other cheese auto is on the right. White widow auto in the middle, and then afghan kush ryder in the back.
I am seeing the same speed of growth with the cheese, and the white widow is all different. One of the white widows is not an auto so we will see which one, I think the largest one is an auto and I think the one that still hasn't shown its sex is the non auto.
I ordered 5 new purple kush autos after I saw some dank pictures on the internet. And I have one bio-diesel on the way. making a total of 12 autos and 1 non auto (which will go into my closet under T5's to be vegged out until the outdoor grow season in april)
One of the cheese (the one if the first picture) has sprouted one male ball so I will be removing that and watching it very closely everyday.
Cheese auto on the left. White Widow Auto in the middle. White widow auto on the right(The mylar makes it look like I have more plants, but there are really only 4 plants in that pic) The Cheese auto is on the left, the other cheese auto is on the right. White widow auto in the middle, and then afghan kush ryder in the back.I am seeing the same speed of growth with the cheese, and the white widow is all different. One of the white widows is not an auto so we will see which one, I think the largest one is an auto and I think the one that still hasn't shown its sex is the non auto.
I ordered 5 new purple kush autos after I saw some dank pictures on the internet. And I have one bio-diesel on the way. making a total of 12 autos and 1 non auto (which will go into my closet under T5's to be vegged out until the outdoor grow season in april)
One of the cheese (the one if the first picture) has sprouted one male ball so I will be removing that and watching it very closely everyday.
doubletake
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Nice auto grow man I just ordered bio disel and northern lights I got high hopes for the bio herbies made it look good also for the nl that looks really dank might not be as big of a yielded though, your also going to have one monster vegging that one until April hah
beginner.legal.growop
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haha yeah man thanks. and i grew some NL last season outdoors, they did ok, not the frostiest plants. They were from Nirvana I am not sure what breeder yours are from. And I saw a bio-diesel grow on the internet, it looked like fire, and have a strong diesel smell report. I probably could of got more inside under 18/6 or 24/0 lighting but I didnt have my set up last season. Throw up a link when you get your grow started man and I would be more than happy to follow it.
I have also figure out the large White widow in the second picture is actually the auto flowering one. This is a guess, based on the fact that 16 day old plants do not usually show sex that fast, sooo that large white widow has pistils growing out of her ass if you know what I am saying and the one in the first pic with the fat fan leaves on the far right is actually the photo period due to it not having one pistil and it being the same age. I could be wrong but I highly doubt it.
Also for anyone who saw Hotrodharley's grow, my W.W is just the tinniest amount smaller than his at the same age if not the same size. So I am guessing this strain responds just as well to soil as it does DWC. I would also like to say thank you to him because I wouldnt have gotten it if I hadn't seen his grow. You can smell it already and it is not even in its pre-flower stretch.
doubletake
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Nice thanks for the insight on the nl hopefully it's ok
My thread/journal thing is going big with autos 7northern lights 7 biodiesel it's like the first one in the auto flower section
And damn that widow is really going off thenha might have to try that for the next auto I order ha
My thread/journal thing is going big with autos 7northern lights 7 biodiesel it's like the first one in the auto flower section
And damn that widow is really going off thenha might have to try that for the next auto I order ha
doubletake
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Have you grown the cheese auto before? It looks like some nice healthy plants I'm trying to get my next auto line up together already ha
beginner.legal.growop
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No. I heard such seen some online grows that ended with fire. Thats the reason I got them. They grow out nicely, and fast, I would say the fastest is the white widow. The first 3 plants to show sex were the cheese, then came the white widows. Now they are covered in pre-flowers. Hopefully they dont start flowering too soon, I want em too get bigger. Which is why I am feeding them all grow nutes, rather than bloom.
I would recommend all the autos in my lineup. They all can reach 17-22% thc easy...
doubletake
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Nice nice thanks the widow and cheese I think will be what I will go with on my next ones then I'll be watching to se how yours come out
beginner.legal.growop
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UPDATE!
White widow auto far back left. Cheese auto all 3 on the right side of this pic. White widow NON auto being lst'd bottom left.
White widow auto is the fatter one on the bottom right. And the cheese auto is in the middle. The piece of crap afghan kush ryder is showing the worst genetics I have laid eyes upon, its in the far back right corner. I might throw it away to make room for another auto... It is starting to flower at that size regardless of how much grow nutes I give it. Will probably yield 8 grams at most... Which is why I am going to throw it away. Will wait a week to make sure it doesnt some how turn itself around.
Still waiting for my 5 purple kush auto seeds 4 cali connection seeds in the mail and my 1 biodiesel seed. Plus all the reserve privada freebie genetics. After I am done with my autos and have at least a pound (12 plants, 1.2 ounces per plant, 1 pound) all to myself I will veg out every cali connection seed and reserve privada seed, clone each one. throw them all into flowering, turn whichever the 2 best plant's clones into mothers. Then primarily grow those mothers out. take another clone. Get another mother going, that last mother will be all for my outdoor grow. While keeping the first mother for my indoor during my outdoor? Make sense? Had to write this quick so if it doesnt sorry... Im in a rush
White widow auto far back left. Cheese auto all 3 on the right side of this pic. White widow NON auto being lst'd bottom left.White widow auto is the fatter one on the bottom right. And the cheese auto is in the middle. The piece of crap afghan kush ryder is showing the worst genetics I have laid eyes upon, its in the far back right corner. I might throw it away to make room for another auto... It is starting to flower at that size regardless of how much grow nutes I give it. Will probably yield 8 grams at most... Which is why I am going to throw it away. Will wait a week to make sure it doesnt some how turn itself around.Still waiting for my 5 purple kush auto seeds 4 cali connection seeds in the mail and my 1 biodiesel seed. Plus all the reserve privada freebie genetics. After I am done with my autos and have at least a pound (12 plants, 1.2 ounces per plant, 1 pound) all to myself I will veg out every cali connection seed and reserve privada seed, clone each one. throw them all into flowering, turn whichever the 2 best plant's clones into mothers. Then primarily grow those mothers out. take another clone. Get another mother going, that last mother will be all for my outdoor grow. While keeping the first mother for my indoor during my outdoor? Make sense? Had to write this quick so if it doesnt sorry... Im in a rush
beginner.legal.growop
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thanks man and I would love to see em' so i can get an idea of what the genetics are like.
beginner.legal.growop
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My new 100% organic line-up
After about a week of researching, looking at organic grows, and researching some more I have come up with this. I will also be purchasing some molasses, even though the honey es has all that stuff, a little more molasses wont hurt.
If your vision is off; the line-up is Fox Farm Big Bloom, Earth Juice Grow, Earth Juice Bloom, Earth Juice Microblast, CaMg+, Roots Organic Buddha Bloom, Humboldt Nutrients Honey Es, Humboldt Nutrients Prozyme, Humboldt Nutrient MycoMadness.
The reason I chose these is simple. It has everything, bat shit, worm castings, plant matter. Litterally everything you could think of putting in a compost bin is in this nutrient line-up. I have seen fire grown from these and I am hoping I can match it.
Also would like to mention that people say autos are picky with nutrients. chemicals maybe start with a 1/4 dose , but I have given them a half dose of all the blooms, a full dose of the grow, and a full dose of everything else. I have been since the plants have showed there first true leaves. I have not seen any burn and that is about a 5-6-6 ratio might be a little more or a little less, will continue this through flowering. Half way through flowering I will kick up the dose of honey es, and gradually lower the dose of grow until none is added. I will only flush for about 3-5 days. Last time when I grew with chemicals I flushed for two weeks, but its not the same for organics. I am probably going to do a test and flush each plant differently. One 3 days another 6 days another 9 days another 14 days, so by the time all the purple kush and biodiesel seeds are done I will know what the best flush period is for organics.
That's pretty much it I hope you guys are enjoying the grow!
After about a week of researching, looking at organic grows, and researching some more I have come up with this. I will also be purchasing some molasses, even though the honey es has all that stuff, a little more molasses wont hurt.
If your vision is off; the line-up is Fox Farm Big Bloom, Earth Juice Grow, Earth Juice Bloom, Earth Juice Microblast, CaMg+, Roots Organic Buddha Bloom, Humboldt Nutrients Honey Es, Humboldt Nutrients Prozyme, Humboldt Nutrient MycoMadness.
The reason I chose these is simple. It has everything, bat shit, worm castings, plant matter. Litterally everything you could think of putting in a compost bin is in this nutrient line-up. I have seen fire grown from these and I am hoping I can match it.
Also would like to mention that people say autos are picky with nutrients. chemicals maybe start with a 1/4 dose , but I have given them a half dose of all the blooms, a full dose of the grow, and a full dose of everything else. I have been since the plants have showed there first true leaves. I have not seen any burn and that is about a 5-6-6 ratio might be a little more or a little less, will continue this through flowering. Half way through flowering I will kick up the dose of honey es, and gradually lower the dose of grow until none is added. I will only flush for about 3-5 days. Last time when I grew with chemicals I flushed for two weeks, but its not the same for organics. I am probably going to do a test and flush each plant differently. One 3 days another 6 days another 9 days another 14 days, so by the time all the purple kush and biodiesel seeds are done I will know what the best flush period is for organics.
That's pretty much it I hope you guys are enjoying the grow!
beginner.legal.growop
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Update, Day 26-27 (day 21 for the smallest W.W auto)
They have pretty much all started flowering regardless of what nutrients I am giving them, so I will continue to give them grow and bloom, hopefully they get a little bigger. I did some calculation as to what my yield will be (take notes because this is a good way to guess your yield). Say each apex and topical growths (all the colas) get at least 3 grams each, on each plant I will get 39grams, on the larger ones I will get 49 grams. Of course some colas will get a little more some of the lower ones might get a little less. So the ball park is around 39 grams or more from each plant. JUST WATCH! I will hit it right on the spot.
Front two are W.W autos, Back row on the right is a W.W non auto being LST'd, and the back left 2 are Cheese autos. The smallest W.W auto is 18 or 21 days in I forgot, I was in the second batch of seeds I received a week after I planted the rest of them. So probably 20 days old. The rest of the plants you see are all exactly 27 days old.
The front row left is a cheese auto. The little shit in the back that will be thrown away is the Afghan Kush Ryder and all the rest in the pic are the ones from the first picture.
I crossed a blackberry kush with a royal flush and got 200 seeds, lost the seeds (my buddys friend probably stole them...) but I had 6 plants going outside. Since I dont have any seeds I took 3 clones from the best plant. Also the one with the purple pheno, so I will veg those out and probably end up crossing it with one of the best cali connection seeds. (will be using colloidal silver again to get all fem seeds)
They have pretty much all started flowering regardless of what nutrients I am giving them, so I will continue to give them grow and bloom, hopefully they get a little bigger. I did some calculation as to what my yield will be (take notes because this is a good way to guess your yield). Say each apex and topical growths (all the colas) get at least 3 grams each, on each plant I will get 39grams, on the larger ones I will get 49 grams. Of course some colas will get a little more some of the lower ones might get a little less. So the ball park is around 39 grams or more from each plant. JUST WATCH! I will hit it right on the spot.
Front two are W.W autos, Back row on the right is a W.W non auto being LST'd, and the back left 2 are Cheese autos. The smallest W.W auto is 18 or 21 days in I forgot, I was in the second batch of seeds I received a week after I planted the rest of them. So probably 20 days old. The rest of the plants you see are all exactly 27 days old.The front row left is a cheese auto. The little shit in the back that will be thrown away is the Afghan Kush Ryder and all the rest in the pic are the ones from the first picture.I crossed a blackberry kush with a royal flush and got 200 seeds, lost the seeds (my buddys friend probably stole them...) but I had 6 plants going outside. Since I dont have any seeds I took 3 clones from the best plant. Also the one with the purple pheno, so I will veg those out and probably end up crossing it with one of the best cali connection seeds. (will be using colloidal silver again to get all fem seeds)
dr.greenthumbbb
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Excellent progress,,and has the afghan kush showed sex yet? it only vegs for 14 days then switches hormones for a week then rapidly produces bud.......https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/world-of-seeds-afghan-kush-ryder-autoflowering/prod_2766.html
beginner.legal.growop
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Thank you. Yes the AKR has shown sex and looks to on its way to producing buds. Was probably just a dud seed that had bad genetics. The stems on it are all 1/6th the size of the stems on the other plants, so i do not see a turn around in its future. Which is why it will be going into the trash so I can put a purple kush in its place. In about a week when all my seeds come it will be a SOG grow, everything will be all bunched together. Going to have 11 plants in there, hoping for around a pound maybe less maybe more. Hopefully more.
doubletake
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Man those really blew up and that's awesome on the organic line up should be some great tasting fire, that would be cool to test but I'm sure with organics a little mini like 3 or 6 day flush should do good but it's always cool to maney find something new out that will help you in e future. Sorry of I missed what size pots are those? I'm about to transplant and wondering if. 5 gallon fabric pots sound like a good idea
Happy growing and everything looks great in there
beginner.legal.growop
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beginner.legal.growop
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damn I am hoping for my plants to all be like the second pic. nice grow and thanks for the photos, now I have something to look forward too. When did they all start flowering?
