Why Hydroponic chemical is worth more then Organic!

[hexthat]

Get really high and ready for some real talk for once. Organic is great everything should be Organic. Why do I feel Hydro bud is worth more then Organic then? Organic fertilizers, soil, ect. are not great they are really high in arsenic and other heavy metals. Arsenic can be found in nature yet it kills most life, do I feel smoking it is better then say bud grown with General Hydroponics? Honestly, I would rather smoke GH. Weed shouldn't be grow or sprayed with Chemicals or Organics that are toxic or neurotoxins in any way, and should be priced accordingly in a higher manner. Monopotassium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, ect. I stay far from.

P.S fluorine is natural, yet I stay far from it. I will not use fluoride tooth paste.

 

[ru4r34l]

Like the human torch, flame on..

regards

 

[hexthat]

Like the human torch, flame on..

regards

what does that mean? I'm not hating. I am just telling truths.

 

[ReefBongwell]

I think the statement that all organics are high in heavy metals and arsenic is pretty broad. Proof? There are literally dozens of kinds of organic fertilizers from different sources. Your statement can't possibly be true.

 

[Kite High]

Organic vs synthetics is bullshit...grow it however you prefer....the labels are all bullshit anyways

 

[Mithrandir420]

what does that mean? I'm not hating. I am just telling truths.

No. You are babbling about things you do not really understand.

 

[hexthat]

I think the statement that all organics are high in heavy metals and arsenic is pretty broad. Proof? There are literally dozens of kinds of organic fertilizers from different sources. Your statement can't possibly be true.

http://www.aapfco.org/metals.html take a gander at your favorite nutrients

 

[curious2garden]

Get really high and ready for some real talk for once. Organic is great everything should be Organic. Why do I feel Hydro bud is worth more then Organic then? Organic fertilizers, soil, ect. are not great they are really high in arsenic and other heavy metals. Arsenic can be found in nature yet it kills most life, do I feel smoking it is better then say bud grown with General Hydroponics? Honestly, I would rather smoke GH. Weed shouldn't be grow or sprayed with Chemicals or Organics that are toxic or neurotoxins in any way, and should be priced accordingly in a higher manner. Monopotassium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, ect. I stay far from.

P.S fluorine is natural, yet I stay far from it. I will not use fluoride tooth paste.

what does that mean? I'm not hating. I am just telling truths.

The problem is the emotionally connotative way you begin a rabidly contested area where emotions run high. What makes your talk 'real'? Where are your numbers and your proofs?

Then you are going to 'give us' the truth about chemistry and toxicology in 1 paragraph or less but you don't know the difference between etc (et cetera) and ect (electro convulsive therapy).

That's why you are getting a problematic (to you), response.

 

[ReefBongwell]

http://www.aapfco.org/metals.html take a gander at your favorite nutrients

I guess you'll have to be more specific I went to the CA website and clicked on half a dozen different guanos and didn't find one that listed any heavy metal contents whatsoever. Once again, proof please, remembering your statement was that ALL of them have heavy metals... no one is saying that certain specific types of organics might not, but to make that kind of broad statement demands proof. So please provide the proof or change your statement.

One thing I can tell you is that if you do not properly flush organics, the worst you're ever going to get is too much N in the buds and a bit of a harsh smoke. You're never going to get that nasty ass chemical taste you get with improperly flushed hydro that makes you want to gag.

 

[cannabineer]

Get really high and ready for some real talk for once. Organic is great everything should be Organic. Why do I feel Hydro bud is worth more then Organic then? Organic fertilizers, soil, ect. are not great they are really high in arsenic and other heavy metals. Arsenic can be found in nature yet it kills most life, do I feel smoking it is better then say bud grown with General Hydroponics? Honestly, I would rather smoke GH. Weed shouldn't be grow or sprayed with Chemicals or Organics that are toxic or neurotoxins in any way, and should be priced accordingly in a higher manner. Monopotassium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, ect. I stay far from.

P.S fluorine is natural, yet I stay far from it. I will not use fluoride tooth paste.

I found the toothpaste with elemental fluorine in it to be too spicy, and my breath etched the bathroom mirror. But man are my teeth white.

I also am compounding rhenium and enriched uranium in my flower formula. Such dense buds, oh my. And I'm able to do away with the res heater. cn

 

[BustinScales510]

I found the toothpaste with elemental fluorine in it to be too spicy, and my breath etched the bathroom mirror. But man are my teeth white.

I also am compounding rhenium and enriched uranium in my flower formula. Such dense buds, oh my. And I'm able to do away with the res heater. cn

Does your shit glow like when they opened the chest in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? 'Cause I could be persuaded to pay extra for an eighth of that

 

[Mithrandir420]

I found the toothpaste with elemental fluorine in it to be too spicy, and my breath etched the bathroom mirror. But man are my teeth white.

I also am compounding rhenium and enriched uranium in my flower formula. Such dense buds, oh my. And I'm able to do away with the res heater. cn

I don't like uranium in my flowers. You get that nasty ass chemical taste. Unless it's organic yellow cake from Israel.

 

[hexthat]

hey guys I'm not hating at all here is an example it wasn't hard to find. Make sure the label is approved first.

AURORA INNOVATIONS

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Specialty Fertilizer

Yes

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Total Nitrogen (N)
Available Phosphoric Acid (P2O5)	7
Soluble Potash (K2O)
Calcium (Ca)	5
Magnesium (Mg)
Sulfur (S)

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[TD]Molybdenum (Mo)[/TD]
[TD]5.6[/TD]
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[TD]Arsenic (As)[/TD]
[TD]10.7[/TD]
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[TD]Cadmium (Cd)[/TD]
[TD]5.2[/TD]
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[TD]Cobalt (Co)[/TD]
[TD]5.3[/TD]
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[TD]600[/TD]
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[TD]Lead (Pb)[/TD]
[TD]16.1[/TD]
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[TD]6.5[/TD]
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[Mithrandir420]

No no.. you are not "hatin". You're "dumbin".

You are talking about things you apparently really do not understand. Start with a biology class, and then a chemistry class. From there take bio chemistry (which is where much of this will be explained to you), and if offered a plant biology course. You will see that you are waving your hands in the air running around like chicken little.

While plants do uptake arsenic, and you can achieve toxic levels in plants, the amount is much higher than anything you'll find in a fertilizer. Things like this generally occur in areas where heavily polluted water runs off into farm land or gets to underground water supplies. Also, why are you not concerned with the other heavy metals?

See, the thing I take issue with is that with all the myth, misinformation, and just plain made up bullshit on these cannabis boards, you are adding to it. We have enough bad info out there.

 

[hexthat]

No no.. you are not "hatin". You're "dumbin".

You are talking about things you apparently really do not understand. Start with a biology class, and then a chemistry class. From there take bio chemistry (which is where much of this will be explained to you), and if offered a plant biology course. You will see that you are waving your hands in the air running around like chicken little.

While plants do uptake arsenic, and you can achieve toxic levels in plants, the amount is much higher than anything you'll find in a fertilizer. Things like this generally occur in areas where heavily polluted water runs off into farm land or gets to underground water supplies. Also, why are you not concerned with the other heavy metals?

See, the thing I take issue with is that with all the myth, misinformation, and just plain made up bullshit on these cannabis boards, you are adding to it. We have enough bad info out there.

I took biology, chemistry.... and micro biology.
I do have an issue with organics because organics never tell you what is in them, example derived from seagoing bird guano. The bird could have ate anything.

Here is an example of micro nutrients from GH.
Derived from: Ammonium Molybdate, Calcium Nitrate, Cobalt Nitrate,
Copper Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Zinc Nitrate, Potassium Borate,
Potassium Sulfate, Calcium Carbonate, Manganese EDTA, Iron EDDHA
and Iron DPTA.

Most chemicals tell you whats in them.... GH leaves out a few things like the dyes they use in grow and bloom, cause if what they say was the only thing in them they would have no color.

 

[hexthat]

I rather dislike the fact they use Iron DPTA and EDDHA, but studies show DPTA is absorbed more easily in high KH water and mirco is 5% calcium. I would have just added more Iron EDTA to the mix and leave out the DPTA and EDDHA.

 

[stizoner]

It is possible for animal based organics to carry diseases from the animal in which they were made. Possibility for mold, bacteria and attracting insects that can defalcate on your pretty buds. Just saying it's possible, not that its likely to happen. The word "chemicals" gets thrown around a lot like a dirty word, drawing images in peoples minds of scientists in lab coats with beakers. Natural chemicals..... I know very little about the subject, just throwing out some thoughts.

 

[hedinclouds]

I took biology, chemistry.... and micro biology.
I do have an issue with organics because organics never tell you what is in them, example derived from seagoing bird guano. The bird could have ate anything.

Here is an example of micro nutrients from GH.
Derived from: Ammonium Molybdate, Calcium Nitrate, Cobalt Nitrate,
Copper Nitrate, Potassium Nitrate, Zinc Nitrate, Potassium Borate,
Potassium Sulfate, Calcium Carbonate, Manganese EDTA, Iron EDDHA
and Iron DPTA.

Most chemicals tell you whats in them.... GH leaves out a few things like the dyes they use in grow and bloom, cause if what they say was the only thing in them they would have no color.

Yah...you're dummin pretty good
Well...I usually am not the kind of person to throw my degree around BUT I have my doctoral degree in neuropsychology and you are a little off key. Since you displayed a total lack of intelligent thinking i think id like to give you some help. Of course, taking one or two classes in chemistry tells us nothing and is not a credible statement. Secondly, yes , nature has a way to pollute just as much as humans naturally. However, chemicals are found in many products such as coffee, frappuccinos,, GMO foods (which Europeans have banned...I wonder why...) and just about any fruit, vegetable, meat you buy at any Vons or Albertsons. Unless you are procuring your food straight from the farm. You are ingesting chemicals. Now for my degree. Due to my profession and where I work, i will not link you to the study that I conducted which earned my degree. we tested neuro pathways with chemically altered foods such as GMO, against farm raised ORGANIC foods. During this study, those who only ingested GMO suffered from more anxiety, mood alterations such as mood swings sporadic high altered temparment, as well as increased levels of depression 10x more then those who chose organic foods. Thirdly, the little list you listed above from ROOTS ORGANICS PHOS BAT GUANO 0-7-0, all contain every metal and eliment currently found in our bodies and has been so for as long as we could remember.
please, I know i used a few complicated words such as GMO and neuro-pathways so please do not strain yourself and take this reading lightly, with intelligent observation as you should with all aspects of life. I employ you to continue to educate yourself to the highest potential.

Oh , and bath-salts, SPICE ...same stuff the face eater and others currently around the world have used...psst, they all use chemicals found in those great nutes you care so deeply for . So why don't you use that 4credit course in chemistry and cook bath salts instead. that seems up your alley.

FLORIDE is bad when injested in large amounts. Brushing your grille with floride is actually the best thing you could do to protect your pearly white investment. Knowledge is power!!

 

[Kite High]

but if the plant is getting the same chemicals from feces as you just stated then your point is moot...for, using your words here...unless you procure the manure yourself you are getting chemicals...and guano for instance would be contaminated with both pesticides and ferts as you indicated as they feed on crops that man protects...so point is moot

also bath salts and spice are NOT the same...bath salts are MDPV (also known as 3,4-Methylenedioxypyrovalerone) or mephedrone...spice is a synthetic cannabinoid JWH-018. Another compound, found[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] in Spice products sold in Germany, is an analog of CP-47,497, a cannabinoid developed by Pfizer over 20 years ago. And such an aberrant misconception is putting your supposed phd in question[/FONT]

 

[jpill]

i think the opposite. Organic and Veganic mmj should be way more sought after and cost more than chemically grown herb.