Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

[PJ Diaz]

One thing I respect about Ed Rosenthal is that he was always Ed Rosenthal. +rep Ed.

 

[Brizzy]

My verdict:
Keep some fan leaves but for the most part they just block light. Bud sites grow proportionally to the amount of light they get.
Ppl that say "it needs leave or it wouldn't grow em" - do you cut your hair and trim your finger/toe nails? Better stop that, you wouldn't grow those if you didn't need em by your logic

 

[Kite High]

My verdict:
Keep some fan leaves but for the most part they just block light. Bud sites grow proportionally to the amount of light they get.
Ppl that say "it needs leave or it wouldn't grow em" - do you cut your hair and trim your finger/toe nails? Better stop that, you wouldn't grow those if you didn't need em by your logic

totally irrelevant analogy as nails and hair do not produce sugars for us to have energy...why not just supplement more light instead??

 

[Brizzy]

totally irrelevant analogy as nails and hair do not produce sugars for us to have energy...why not just supplement more light instead??

Who said the amount of light is the problem, the light is being blocked. That's the prob. The leafs are necessary no doubt, but I remove lots of leaves and my bud sites reward me for it.
To each his own, I'm not into Internet scuffles. Do your thing bro

 

[legallyflying]

I may be doing something wrong. My buds have hair, but they don't have any nails? Where are the nails located? I think I see nails right at the axis of the stems. ARe thsoe the nails? Should I trim them?

 

[Uncle Ben]

I may be doing something wrong. My buds have hair, but they don't have any nails? Where are the nails located? I think I see nails right at the axis of the stems. ARe thsoe the nails? Should I trim them?

The nails are those things you drove into your trunk so they can get mo' iron.

 

[kinetic]

The nails are those things you drove into your trunk so they can get mo' iron.

Wasn't that in one of those 1970's growing books? lol

 

[Uncle Ben]

Could be. Actually folks should file their nails and use the fines in their tanks or pots. Folks say it works better than Brawndo.

 

[kinetic]

Could be. Actually folks should file their nails and use the fines in their tanks or pots. Folks say it works better than Brawndo.

I heard if you scrub the calloused skin off your foot and add it too your soil it speeds the development of the radicle.

 

[Kite High]

Who said the amount of light is the problem, the light is being blocked. That's the prob. The leafs are necessary no doubt, but I remove lots of leaves and my bud sites reward me for it.
To each his own, I'm not into Internet scuffles. Do your thing bro

not scuffling but to put lighting at different angles and on movers will eliminate the shading as well correct?

 

[PJ Diaz]

not scuffling but to put lighting at different angles and on movers will eliminate the shading as well correct?

That's true, but a mover in a 3x3 or 4x4 tent is pretty tough.

IMO, even if the lighting issues are all true or false, that really only addresses one possible advantage to defoliating. The other advantage, which IMO is equally important, is air circulation in small spaces. I live near the ocean, and it's already humid. I grow in a small space, so PM can be an issue. Regardless of lighting or photosynthetic production, a moderate leaf prune helps me to get bigger plants in a smaller space without risking poor air circulation. It seems to be working good in the big picture for my situation. In large production spaces it's likely not as beneficial.

 

[Kite High]

That's true, but a mover in a 3x3 or 4x4 tent is pretty tough.

IMO, even if the lighting issues are all true or false, that really only addresses one possible advantage to defoliating. The other advantage, which IMO is equally important, is air circulation in small spaces. I live near the ocean, and it's already humid. I grow in a small space, so PM can be an issue. Regardless of lighting or photosynthetic production, a moderate leaf prune helps me to get bigger plants in a smaller space without risking poor air circulation. It seems to be working good in the big picture for my situation. In large production spaces it's likely not as beneficial.

I have a mover in a 24"x42" closet with a 400 cmh on it for selfing and crosses....two on movers overhead in 5x5 chambers with a cooltubed 400 below the canopy AND A 8 54 W 46" T5'S 2 in each corner minsplit ac and fans along with a dehumid so air circ covered as well...

see below

so no need to remove food factories correct?

 

[PJ Diaz]

I have a mover in a 24"x42" closet with a 400 cmh on it for selfing and crosses....two on movers overhead in 5x5 chambers with a cooltubed 400 below the canopy AND A 8 54 W 46" T5'S 2 in each corner minsplit ac and fans along with a dehumid so air circ covered as well...

see below

so no need to remove food factories correct?

Nice setup man. +rep

I have my dehumid outside the tent due to space constraints unfortunately.

 

[Kite High]

itsa 5x5x9 with 4 Positronics claustrums in there now. Sealed with titan 3 co2 monitor/controller two fans on the floor blowing up with the dehumid in 10 gallon microkote lined containers of minerally amended promix hp and 50% coarse perilite

ps- not a tent but a double walled flored and ceiling insulated totally sealed structure of wood with 7 coats of interior and 5 exterior coats inside of another building

 

[Sir.Ganga]

smells like you're the douche...and your obvious faith in Jorge proves you dont know anything but what you read...Jorge shows off OTHER people's grows and knows how to write and market books

Did you actually read my statement...Obviously NOT! Go ask UB for clarification, maybe between the two of you you can figure it out.

Wannabe#2

 

[Kite High]

Did you actually read my statement...Obviously NOT! Go ask UB for clarification, maybe between the two of you you can figure it out.

Wannabe#2

see above

 

[elkukupanda]

And I would like to clarify after all the information here and th other threads conclusion is... Leafs : blockers of lights.. Don't believe?



The wood on the floor ain't getting nothing!

 

[Kite High]

And I would like to clarify after all the information here and th other threads conclusion is... Leafs : blockers of lights.. Don't believe?



The wood on the floor ain't getting nothing!

so they are food producers that block light...floor dont need any light does it?

 

[elkukupanda]

so they are food producers that block light...floor dont need any light does it?

What??? Man... Sarcasm... To light up the mood.. People are about to inetkill each other here

 

[elkukupanda]

and it's my first grow... i take every opportunity to show my plants.. you guys have like a thousand grows so you know.. new and exciting... old and boring kind of mentality...