There is a lot of mis-information on the web. Beware newbies.

kgp

Well-Known Member
I just have to get this off my chest. You can read a lot of good info here, but you get even more bullshit. Many of the people on here have many posts and good rep, but they give alot of bad info. especially to newbies. Many of the hypes or myths of growing are just that. Myths or hypes.

Let me take a minute to remind everyone that this is a plant that can grow and has grown under the care of old mother nature long before any of you have been born. There is no secret recipe for success. If you are good at growing, chances are you can grow good pot. Learn about good soil, hydro systems, nutes, lights and photo periods. Pick a good strain, and gow the damn plant, in good conditions. Forget the snake oils, fancy expensive bottles that promise you all this and that shit. Most times they will do you more harm than good. Nute burn is something that will happen to most. Like wiping out learning how to ride a bike.

The dark period before harvest, flushing, and secrets like this is all subjective. Some do some don't. Those that do, swear by it, those that dont, swear by it. Try it if your curious. It doesnt really matter.

I have learned a lot and made many mistakes, and now it seems so easy, and so simple. The basics are all they need. If I had only learned this long ago.

To all the newbs, or vets, maybe they can learn something form this post. I still learn alot myself.

Happy growing to all. Be smart and safe. Peace!
 

Trousers

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Fuckin A. If I hear one more asshole talk about how fem seeds are more likely to "hermie" I'm going to falcon punch their mother. There are so many assholes here that have been growing for years and get great results then talk as if their way is the only way to go.
 

polyarcturus

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Fuckin A. If I hear one more asshole talk about how fem seeds are more likely to "hermie" I'm going to falcon punch their mother. There are so many assholes here that have been growing for years and get great results then talk as if their way is the only way to go.
lol, you cant blame them it took me 2 years(and a lot of making myself look like a tool looking back) to come to a full understanding of genetics work, its a complicated matter... "falcon punch"... bwhahha..
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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there are a few things though that are true

conditions....optimum humidity and tempratures will be your best friend
Light.....the canabis plant loves light, the more the better as long as your not burning your plants.
Nutrients....Nitrogen is nitrogen it dosent matter where you get it but plants do need it same goes for Phosphorus and Potash and other micro nutrients.
PH...is important if your soil PH is way out of wack it will effect your plants......if its .2 off from "ideal PH" then they are fine....if it is 2 off then you need to fix.

if your lights go out during veg and your plant gets a couple extra hours of light its no big deal really, plants take almost 7 days of consistant light cycle to change the hormones in the plant to either go into flower or back into veg, same goes for a plant that 6 weeks into flower. if your lights get stuck on for a 24 hour period before you realize whats going on trust me your not going to go into your grow room the next day and find your plants look like they did 8 weeks ago. it will take a plant in full flowering stage 2-5 WEEKS to revert itself fully back to a vegatative stage......

the original poster is 100% right there is so many dumb ass stoner THEORIES out there that people will blast new people with but the bottom line is its a fucking plant and it will grow as long as it has food, water and light. the key to growing a really good plant is not all this mumbo jumbo horseshit stoned potheads come up with its tuning in on the 4 basic necesities of the plant and perfecting them food, water, light and temprature get those 4 things right and you will grow some great weed.
 

LeafGnosis

Active Member
Fuckin A. If I hear one more asshole talk about how fem seeds are more likely to "hermie" I'm going to falcon punch their mother. There are so many assholes here that have been growing for years and get great results then talk as if their way is the only way to go.
 

giggles26

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Oh and your right man just cuz someone has a million posts and 2 million rep points doesn't mean he is the god father of ganja growing.

I'm not saying that some of them don't know there shit but at some point and time it becomes more of a pissing contest rather than helping the newbies. We have all been there at one point and time and it's not fair to them to feed them with bs just because you are top dog of rep points.

But some people wont even bother listening to the advice you give and then come back 4 days later saying wth is wrong with my plant!
 

giggles26

Well-Known Member
there are a few things though that are true

the original poster is 100% right there is so many dumb ass stoner THEORIES out there that people will blast new people with but the bottom line is its a fucking plant and it will grow as long as it has food, water and light. the key to growing a really good plant is not all this mumbo jumbo horseshit stoned potheads come up with its tuning in on the 4 basic necesities of the plant and perfecting them food, water, light and temprature get those 4 things right and you will grow some great weed.
You mean grow you some bomb ass digity weed ;) Shit that make girl's panties drop. The good ol couch lock stone haha
 

jaubry777

Member
can post a picture of leaves that have been "impossibly burned" by water drops. i figured it was bull crap too but, yeah, it happens. maybe just cuz I had my ceramic metal halide too close for a couple days.
 

Travis9226

Active Member
I completely agree, I don't consider myself an expert by any means but I'm no n00b. And I hate it when I have a question that I can't figure out on my own after lots of reading and some dumb ass trys to answer with something like "get better nutrients" or puts up a picture of nutrient absorption pH chart. I'm like no shit, my soil pH should be6.5 that's what I said when I posted my question if you would have read a little.

Sorry I get to ranting I just don't get why people TRY and answer questions when it becomes very apparent to anyone with a few grows under their belt that there full of bullshit. And you end up wanting to smash your head against the keyboard.
 

polyarcturus

Well-Known Member
can post a picture of leaves that have been "impossibly burned" by water drops. i figured it was bull crap too but, yeah, it happens. maybe just cuz I had my ceramic metal halide too close for a couple days.
something in the water not the water itself, i spray daily under all types of lighting conditions. i imagine if the bare bulb is too close the water droplet could dry off too fast and leave a slight marring
 

legallyflying

Well-Known Member
water droplets can indeed burn leaf tissue. HOWEVER, this happen on plants with hairs on the leaves which cannabis does not.

This is in natural sunlight, some people have their grow lights so close that the intensity is greater than the sun. This higher intensity can cause leaf tissue damage from water droplets. Use a surfactant..dr bronners soap is a good one, and you will never have that problem.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

Well-Known Member
can post a picture of leaves that have been "impossibly burned" by water drops. i figured it was bull crap too but, yeah, it happens. maybe just cuz I had my ceramic metal halide too close for a couple days.
bingo....water evaporates long before it will magnify the light and burn your plants
 

RetiredMatthebrute

Well-Known Member
water droplets can indeed burn leaf tissue. HOWEVER, this happen on plants with hairs on the leaves which cannabis does not.

This is in natural sunlight, some people have their grow lights so close that the intensity is greater than the sun. This higher intensity can cause leaf tissue damage from water droplets. Use a surfactant..dr bronners soap is a good one, and you will never have that problem.

yeah you are correct here, though even with leaves with hairs on them its pretty rare occurance as i said in above post water will evap pretty fast under good light and if you have ever tried to light a piece of paper on fire with a magnifying glass you will know that you have to hold it at a particular angle to get the light beam concentrated enough to catch the paper on fire.

my point in saying that was not to start a debate about it but rather make a statement that its a hyped up myth especially when dealing with our beloved mary jane
 

Opm

Active Member

  • Fuckin A. If I hear one more asshole talk about how fem seeds aren't more likely to "hermie" I'm going to donkey punch their mother. There are so many assholes here that have been growing for years and get great results then talk as if their way is the only way to go.​


 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
Another big issue is that most of the so called masters are still riding the wagon of beginners luck and just wont admit to it no matter .. I sense many of us read between the lines and chuckle due to this ..

I never had the luxury of having someone hold my hand online and save or destroy a grow , back when I began growing in the late 80s there were only a few books about growing to be found and of course there were comical write ups in High Times mag .. We had no choice but to read and learn the hard way which insured that we mastered the trade and learnt by the rules of the Hard Knock Schooling ..

But then again back then very few people dared to grow due to the laws, but nowdays with America changing every new grower is out to get rich and become the best of the best .. Might want to skip the net and read some text books if you really want to learn or find advice . Shit a basic Botany degree is not needed but yet so many closet growers seem to have one these days ..
 

RetiredMatthebrute

Well-Known Member
Another big issue is that most of the so called masters are still riding the wagon of beginners luck and just wont admit to it no matter .. I sense many of us read between the lines and chuckle due to this ..

I never had the luxury of having someone hold my hand online and save or destroy a grow , back when I began growing in the late 80s there were only a few books about growing to be found and of course there were comical write ups in High Times mag .. We had no choice but to read and learn the hard way which insured that we mastered the trade and learnt by the rules of the Hard Knock Schooling ..

But then again back then very few people dared to grow due to the laws, but nowdays with America changing every new grower is out to get rich and become the best of the best .. Might want to skip the net and read some text books if you really want to learn or find advice . Shit a basic Botany degree is not needed but yet so many closet growers seem to have one these days ..
couldnt agree more as far as the actual literature goes you cant beat it.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
How about a list of the usual shit posted here like Nute Splash , hahah going on 25 years of growing and never have I splashed Nutes on my plants , yes maybe a splash of 1400 ppm but it never burnt a leaf , if it did it would burn the roots and all would be done .. Lmfao Nute Splash
 

RetiredMatthebrute

Well-Known Member
like i said earlier people on here get high out thier mind and become biologists, think they have discovered the new and improved method...blah blah blah then swear by it and try and get other people to use these methods. alot of the stuff on here is good infor but man i have read some really wacked out shit since i started trolling these boards
 
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