bigbillyrocka
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They would look healthy as all get out one day and then the very next would be all limp and hung with a major curve. It was frustrating. Then once in soil, i never had a single issue.
Autos are so tall what the hell? ADVICE! COUNTING DAYS?WEEKS?
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The2TimEr
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Well the auto i showed you was 32 grams dry and the plant in the video was 49g if you didnt see... an oz is 28g
seanel
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I wasnt meaning anything by it man u said something about half of one and an o off the other.. the one in the vid is cool n all but realisticly i dont see myself buying 8 aero gardens and running them all the time.. Its possible to get decent yeild sometimes without jumping thru hoops and spending loads of cash but IMHO i think that regualr and fem seeds are a much better option seeming as you can flower when you want/ not when they feel like it im not doggin or bashing anyones grow im just saying if i dont get at least 8oz out of 8 autos im gonna be more than dissapointed.. Iv pulled qp of tuty fruity and almost half lbs... It just doesnt seem worth it to me.. i gave it a try then i did again...
The2TimEr
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Dosn't make the world of sense but, looking for 8 oz from 8 auto's is a hell of a long shot with the unstability in the auto's especially newer strains.
i use a cheap soil mix , 250 w light with 2 auto's in big pots and the best i yeilded was 38g from one afghan ryder.
i use a cheap soil mix , 250 w light with 2 auto's in big pots and the best i yeilded was 38g from one afghan ryder.
ThaProdiG
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I had that problem with my first autos... they ended up outgrowing their pots and their box and the yield was airy and long like 70-90 days...i believe its because the light was on too long...i didnt turn them off for like 3 weeks and then after like week 5 and they were already big and havent flowered i started to turn the lights off for like 8-12 hrs a day until i saw something... so i would say on autos you should run them on high light hrs for like 2 weeks until they show 1 5set then you turn the lights off for like 6-8 hrs until they start preflower then kick it back up to 20-4 .. just my personal opinion...I seriously doubt u will have stress/ recovery issues...thats kind of absurd cause no plant on earth requires 20-24 hrs a day to live.. sooo i think if u cut the light off it will stimulate this growth early then it can spend the rest of its life/root growth on buds rather than vegging for any personal period of time since its a time based plant (typically).
Villa
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This is my fruit on week seven from seed.It is 14" high and it is all 1 dense bud. I think it will finish in 60 days.Trics are cloudy as hell.
This is my 1st auto and I have an amnesia at between 4 and 5 weeks and a diesel rider at almost 2 weeks.So far the amnesia has developed some nice buds and it's a lot taller then the fruit.
BigLittlejohn
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Awesome. I've been looking at my Fruit plant and thinking that it is going to be a squat thing with one Huge cola. Your pic just confirmed that for me.
seanel
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given the plant has so many days from seed to full maturity is this really a productive messure? Why not just go 12 12 the entire grow seeming as plant grow most their roots at night during cooler temps? i just think autos indoors are garbage waste of time u have alot more variety and stability if you use reg/fem seeds.. not early flowering or ryders either you can make any plant bud when you want it to by switching the lights.. I changed my autos for one night cycle and it devastated them cupping not drinking leaned over like a bad hangover took them almost a week to recover.. no plant needs 20 hrs of light i agree any more than 18 is a waste.. Im just saying autos are like making a finish weld, you can move when the metal needs you to but when you go off path you will always c it in the end product.. sorry for the refference im an american and a welder lol.. say i did that welding your hot water heater it wouldnt hold up on you... something would break and it would be done for.. no way around it so any harm stress or trama you are seriously taking away from you plants yeild.. a day of our time is litteraly 2 years to a regular plant what do think it is to an auto at max lifespan 85 day for auto.. just saying i do my homework lol and i have done the actual leg work also... i never said all my autos were bad BTW... I know it sounds like im arguing or debating im just stating facts and experience.. I run 600 watt with mylar room exact size for 9 five gal buckets.. like 1cubic meter tops
seanel
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i keep my shit super cool with ac and 540cfm fan thru hood exhaust so i can get super close.... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Important fact autos can get too much light lol>>> I had too much light on my 4 week old plants with 600w it was insane not too much heat but too much light.. dont try to get it tooo close you will get bleaching if left too long they just cook like a bad sunburn
The2TimEr
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Yeh man it's all down to preferance at the end of the day and if i had that kind of grow area and lighting i would'nt be growing auto's.
If your switching light cycles to 12/12 with auto's what do you think is going to happen? they require at least 18 hours a day, every day and no 20 hours is a good schedule for autoflowers.
Harvesting decent meds after 70 days or so being around and oz each time is pretty dam cool when photo period plants take anywere from 3-4+ months
seanel
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Not tru man i had done some of the 60 day lemons from dna genetics and the breeder suggests 12 hrs of light n 12 of dark. yeah i dont know what i was thinking.. i guess i was thinking it would be a quick jumpstart to my new room but photo would have been just as fast.. i dont think my autos are gonna finish within 85 days even.. monday will be week 6 and just barely started flowering... i can hope that they explode but im not seeing it.. growth seems right on par with photo period. No plant requires 18 hrs of light there isnt that much light in the day anywhere in the world really.. Unless u get 6mo light n 6mo dark lol. Photo period plant only take as long as you want them to man, unlike autos photos u can flower whenever you want... just put em on 12/12.. I am going to do an expirement for my next grow im going to grow a photo and an auto side by side in 12/12 to show these ppl that photos can out weigh an auto givin the same light cycle and amount of time to grow... Many ppl have been starting 12/12 from seed for years for scrog or sog, 70 days for an auto is sweet if they do it in that amount of time.. problem being they do it whenever they feel like it.
medcaregiver69
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My problem wad the same 5 ft tall low production the guys on here told me what to do I use 400 watt mh first 4 weeks then 600 hps plants are 6 weeks old 24 inch tall 18 wide and full of green have 2-3 oz on them rt now and I found out the hard way n
BigLittlejohn
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I am not having this experience at all with Fruit and I am growing mine in a DWC bucket. My Fruit seed popped 24 days ago and today is showing some pre-flowering pistils. It is at most 7-8 inches tall. Maybe the light is the issue, but I am using a 250w HPS with some low wattage (1 42w and 1 26w) 6500K CFLs adding supplemental light. I have hard time believing that the little bit of blue spectrum light I am giving my Fruit plant is making all the difference here.
My issue with fruit is an either Cal/Mag deficiency or is being over-fed and I need to lower the nute ppm.
My issue with fruit is an either Cal/Mag deficiency or is being over-fed and I need to lower the nute ppm.
ThaProdiG
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i havent experienced too much light as an issue but i can say that until they're strong switching the light cycle seems to works 2 ways for me...one way is alot of daylight and then you reduce the daylight... and then the opposite... alot of night time and then you reduce the night time..either way shouldnt affect your plants "health" per-say if they're done consistently meaning a def 18/6 is reduced to a def 16/8 or 12/12 (and vice versa) ....then you will see a steady progression of growth however, the rules still apply.. auto or non the more light+penetration the more bud/yield you will have... that hps situation u had was a spectrum temp issue...the fact that it was so close and alot of the spectrum it puts out is not used...they said is 60% or so but that 60% is the visible part i believe.. and the penetration of that light ...too close for an auto or photo actually no matter what the temp..
ThaProdiG
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the one thing i can say about auto to photo is the photos ive grown or seen grown (good strain/genetics) had alot of trich production early...cant say the same for all the autos (dont get me wrong..the buds and the later product has plenty plenty).. its just not like a super amount of sugar leaves in the beginning like a photo...just n my personal experience... noT an actual fact just an observation
seanel
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c i used a six hundred watt mh then switched to 600 hps at 30 days my plants arent really that tall the tallest is 22in..i think autos do alot better in any flowing hydro setup seems to be the case.. but not for us soil or soiless grower than wanna do it for taste and apperance. and i run 18-6 from start... im telling u guy that any light change at all is devastating the plants they droop loose structure and start cupping following the mag defficiency..
LIL jhon you got a good batch of fruit brother.. i think i got one good one as well but too early to tell... Got any pics popcorn period. just wanna compare some progress and flowertime..
prodig man you cant go from 18-6 to 12-12 with autos im telling you thats just not realistic it will take tha plants too long to bounce back even a week thats 15% of its entire life... like i said 2 days is a year in plant life...(photo Study by george Cervantes) So 2days for an auto would be 8years seeming as its only supposed to last three months tops without being a super auto.. but yeah i did learn no matter how cool you keep your tube you cant break that 12inch mark youll burn the hell out of em.. never knoew this was possible till i hooked up the ac and tried it...
medcare man 2-3 o are you talking wet? i dont c any autos that get that kind of weight at 18 inches tall got pictures or you got some tips or secrets man,,, we could all use plants like that.
LIL jhon you got a good batch of fruit brother.. i think i got one good one as well but too early to tell... Got any pics popcorn period. just wanna compare some progress and flowertime..
prodig man you cant go from 18-6 to 12-12 with autos im telling you thats just not realistic it will take tha plants too long to bounce back even a week thats 15% of its entire life... like i said 2 days is a year in plant life...(photo Study by george Cervantes) So 2days for an auto would be 8years seeming as its only supposed to last three months tops without being a super auto.. but yeah i did learn no matter how cool you keep your tube you cant break that 12inch mark youll burn the hell out of em.. never knoew this was possible till i hooked up the ac and tried it...
medcare man 2-3 o are you talking wet? i dont c any autos that get that kind of weight at 18 inches tall got pictures or you got some tips or secrets man,,, we could all use plants like that.
seanel
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MAGPRO-dyna gro no calcium which that you get with you phed tap water.. 2.5ml a gallon work wonders i use 2.5ml every time i water now even tho feeding chart calls for only a .75ml sometimes you just have to take thing into your own hands and push the limits a little... like i said i gave full strength nutes since wk one... Just gotta get the right shit... I run whole dyna gro line... not a huge fan yet but my results get better and better. reason i like dyna gro its all from organic or better than organic... and the price is amazing ... i wanna do a lucas+ formula and dyna gro comparison between 2 photos next gro.. Flora nova Bloom And Micro