Obama Tries To Sway Marijuana Voters, Marijuana Voters Toss Him The Finger

[OGEvilgenius]

Everyone who votes? I'd rather take my chances and vote for him than vote for mittens. It's not like his stand on marijuana would be the only reason I'd vote for him. How do I suppose to know if he's lying or not? I'm not him, I'm not in his cabinet. Nor am I mittens or in his cabinet. The shit they are telling you today, tomorrow and all the way up until Nov. 5th could all be a bunch of bullshit. You take a chance either way. I'd rather not take a chance with another Republican, they don't exactly have the best track record over the oh I dunno.. 30+ years?

You know he's lying based on his record of lying.

There are countless other reasons not to vote for him. I guess you think the 4th and 5th amendments are overrated.

 

[mr2shim]

You know he's lying based on his record of lying.

There are countless other reasons not to vote for him. I guess you think the 4th and 5th amendments are overrated.

Exactly, and you know mittens is lying based on his lying record. So what do you do, not vote? Write in Ron Paul? Be realistic. There are countless reasons to not vote for BOTH of them. You aren't voting for who's the most truthful, no you're voting for the LESSER of the two evils. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

 

[mr2shim]

I suggest laying off this weak point unless you have proof of it. And even if you have proof of it, if you ran the numbers (because Obama has been so aggressive in taking down law biding dispensaries) it's doubtful the %'s outweigh the drastic increase we've seen in dispensaries being forcibly closed.

Bit ironic you tell him to not say

there was no explosion of dispensaries under bush for a reason. there was indeed an explosion of dispensaries under obama after the holder announcement

because he has no proof, then you turn around and say

obama has been so aggressive in taking down law biding dispensaries

with no proof.

 

[Carne Seca]

I have a lot to be thankful for due to the O'Bama presidency. I had unemployment extended after I was two years out of work and no jobs were available. My cobra insurance was extended during my period of unemployment and the monthly premiums were reduced to an affordable amount. I have a job. I have new insurance with affordable premiums WITH a pre-existing condition. I have access to medical marijuana.

I'm voting for O'Bama because I like him and despite all the opposition, bullshit, GOP obstructionalism, and two wars, he managed to do some truly great things.

 

[mr2shim]

I have a lot to be thankful for due to the O'Bama presidency. I had unemployment extended after I was two years out of work and no jobs were available. My cobra insurance was extended during my period of unemployment and the monthly premiums were reduced to an affordable amount. I have a job. I have new insurance with affordable premiums WITH a pre-existing condition. I have access to medical marijuana.

I'm voting for O'Bama because I like him and despite all the opposition, bullshit, GOP obstructionalism, and two wars, he managed to do some truly great things.

Not good enough, unemployment should have been at 4% by 2010, national minimum wage should have been at 10 bucks an hour by now, the deficit should be 2 trillion not 16, there should be 3 millions jobs created a MONTH, why hasn't he walked on water yet? Bit of a let down I say.. I'm pretty sure he's not from this Country, all of those documents are lies. He hates white people(so what if he's half white) He's trying to raise taxes on the rich dafuq? he's trying to raise taxes on the poor too! what an asshole, he wants this socialist healthcare shit? So what if EVERY developed nation in the WORLD has some form of Govt. healthcare except Merica, schools are failing, why isn't he teaching at my sons school? Damn liar! Need I go on... Fuck that guy.. What a let down, so many broken promises...

 

[Carne Seca]

Not good enough, unemployment should have been at 4% by 2010, national minimum wage should have been at 10 bucks an hour by now, the deficit should be 2 trillion not 16, there should be 3 millions jobs created a MONTH, why hasn't he walked on water yet? Bit of a let down I say.. I'm pretty sure he's not from this Country, all of those documents are lies. He hates white people(so what if he's half white) He's trying to raise taxes on the rich dafuq? he's trying to raise taxes on the poor too! what an asshole, he wants this socialist healthcare shit? So what if EVERY developed nation in the WORLD has some form of Govt. healthcare except Merica, schools are failing, why isn't he teaching at my sons school? Damn liar! Need I go on... Fuck that guy.. What a let down, so many broken promises...

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the Senate and the House and what the GOP has been doing to make sure that, “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” - Mitch McConnell. They blocked and hindered in every way they possibly could. Even going so far as to oppose legislation they once endorsed or wrote themselves. Just because President O'Bama was for it. Wasting time and government money on hundreds and hundreds of failed abortion bills, blocking budget extensions which ultimately led to the country's credit rating downgrade, blocking wall street regulation so we don't go into another Great Recession, extending the Bush tax cuts, etc., etc., etc., so on and so forth. But you know all this. What matters to you most is your claim that HE HATES WHITE PEOPLE. I am no longer going to waste my time on you because no matter how logical or reasoned the argument, it all boils down to his skin pigmentation.

 

[mr2shim]

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the Senate and the House and what the GOP has been doing to make sure that, “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.” - Mitch McConnell. They blocked and hindered in every way they possibly could. Even going so far as to oppose legislation they once endorsed or wrote themselves. Just because President O'Bama was for it. Wasting time and government money on hundreds and hundreds of failed abortion bills, blocking budget extensions which ultimately led to the country's credit rating downgrade, blocking wall street regulation so we don't go into another Great Recession, extending the Bush tax cuts, etc., etc., etc., so on and so forth. But you know all this. What matters to you most is your claim that HE HATES WHITE PEOPLE. I am no longer going to waste my time on you because no matter how logical or reasoned the argument, it all boils down to his skin pigmentation.

apparently I didn't lay on the sarcasm thick enough. I thought the walking on water bit was obvious enough.

 

[UncleBuck]

I hate to beat a dead horse but there is more evidence supporting the position that this guy isn't even an Natural Born Citizen than there is proving the contrary.Only Puppet Masters can keep a guy in office in this situation.As a vet I resent his being entirely.Remember the failing to even put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem?Then there is the random destruction of the Bill of Rights by the writing new Bill's into Law.

why do you capitalize and put an apostrophe into "bills"?

i think i'll take my rational analysis about the president's citizenship from someone capable of spelling first grader words correctly.

can't call that a verbal attack, i only made factual statements.

 

[UncleBuck]

If I'm not mistaken, none of these presidential candidates who's citizenship was questioned were black, I'll do a little more research and get back to you.

Nope, not a single one was a black man!


Presidential Candidates who have had their Citizenship Questioned
· Christopher Schurmann 1896 Election
· Charles Evans Hughes 1916 Election
· George Romney 1968 Election
· Barry Goldwater 1964 Election
· Lowell Weicker 1980 Election
· Roger Calero 2004 and 2008
· John McCain 2000 and 2008

*WHOSE

i've shown you the correct usage of "whose" and "who's" so many times that it is tiring by now.

i think i'll take my analysis from someone who is capable of using grammar beyond the grade school level correctly.

 

[Carne Seca]

apparently I didn't lay on the sarcasm thick enough. I thought the walking on water bit was obvious enough.

Oh shit. My bad. A thousand and one apologies.

 

[mr2shim]

Oh shit. My bad. A thousand and one apologies.

lol don't worry about it. In a political debate sarcasm easily goes unnoticed. I'm with you on basically everything you've said.

 

[Carne Seca]

lol don't worry about it. In a political debate sarcasm easily goes unnoticed. I'm with you on basically everything you've said.

I have (kind of) an excuse. I have short term memory issues from a past injury and it takes me a while to get to know someone. Sarcasm during the critical get-to-know-you stage can throw me off. As you just observed. LOL Anyway, sorry for the mix-up.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Exactly, and you know mittens is lying based on his lying record. So what do you do, not vote? Write in Ron Paul? Be realistic. There are countless reasons to not vote for BOTH of them. You aren't voting for who's the most truthful, no you're voting for the LESSER of the two evils. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Voting for evil is immoral. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

 

[mr2shim]

Voting for evil is immoral. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

So your solution is to not vote? Yea, let's see how well that turns out.

I have (kind of) an excuse. I have short term memory issues from a past injury and it takes me a while to get to know someone. Sarcasm during the critical get-to-know-you stage can throw me off. As you just observed. LOL Anyway, sorry for the mix-up.

I'm a very sarcastic person. Been married for almost 8 years my wife STILL doesn't catch it every time.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Bit ironic you tell him to not say because he has no proof, then you turn around and say with no proof.

Except I do have proof Obama has redoubled efforts to shut down dispensaries.

You have nothing at all.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

So your solution is to not vote? Yea, let's see how well that turns out.



I'm a very sarcastic person. Been married for almost 8 years my wife STILL doesn't catch it every time.

My solution is to vote for someone who actually might represent you on some level. IE: Gary Johnson or some other candidate less bought and paid for.

 

[UncleBuck]

Except I do have proof Obama has redoubled efforts to shut down dispensaries.

You have nothing at all.

funny how you claim to have proof then withhold said proof.

all you have right now is assertion. unfounded assertion.

 

[Carne Seca]

Except I do have proof Obama has redoubled efforts to shut down dispensaries.

WASHINGTON -- U.S. attorneys have a message for California's medical marijuana advocates: Don't blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.


The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.


"He's the one who provided the quote for our press release, and he's chosen by Eric Holder," Horwood told HuffPost in an interview. "But we didn't have direct talks with Eric Holder -- not that we wouldn't, he's been out and visited -- but just the way the Department of Justice works, he's not that hands-on on these kinds of details."


An article by Phoenix Times reporter Ray Stern claimed Horwood acknowledged that California's U.S. attorneys received "Obama's blessing" in implementing the crackdown. But in an interview with The Huffington Post, Horwood, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in California's Eastern District, distanced herself from that language.


"What I said, or at least meant to say, was that the U.S. Attorneys in California saw the need for coordinated enforcement actions and spoke with folks in Main Justice in D.C. (not the Obama Administration)," she told HuffPost in an email.


Cole declined to attend any California press conferences on the issue not, Horwood insisted, because he was distancing himself from the crackdown, but because California is a long way to travel.

State Senator Mark Leno (D) has joined Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) in requesting meetings with the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to discuss the reasons behind the crackdown.


So far their requests have gone unanswered. "They're talking amongst themselves," said Ammiano of federal prosecutors, "and really causing tremendous, unnecessary chilling effects."


Steve DeAngelo of Oakland medical cannabis club Harborside Health Center said such effects may be the end goal.


"Federal prosecutors are not trying to clean up the regulated medical cannabis industry, they are trying to destroy it," he said at a Tuesday press conference in San Francisco. "Their real target is not criminal gangs, but rather the systems of licensing and regulation implemented by dozens of communities state-wide. This is destroying tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of tax dollars in local, state and federal tax revenue."


The crackdown comes even as 50 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana, according to a recently released Gallup poll, up from just 36 percent in 2006.

 

[UncleBuck]

WASHINGTON -- U.S. attorneys have a message for California's medical marijuana advocates: Don't blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.


The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.


"He's the one who provided the quote for our press release, and he's chosen by Eric Holder," Horwood told HuffPost in an interview. "But we didn't have direct talks with Eric Holder -- not that we wouldn't, he's been out and visited -- but just the way the Department of Justice works, he's not that hands-on on these kinds of details."


An article by Phoenix Times reporter Ray Stern claimed Horwood acknowledged that California's U.S. attorneys received "Obama's blessing" in implementing the crackdown. But in an interview with The Huffington Post, Horwood, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in California's Eastern District, distanced herself from that language.


"What I said, or at least meant to say, was that the U.S. Attorneys in California saw the need for coordinated enforcement actions and spoke with folks in Main Justice in D.C. (not the Obama Administration)," she told HuffPost in an email.


Cole declined to attend any California press conferences on the issue not, Horwood insisted, because he was distancing himself from the crackdown, but because California is a long way to travel.

we're not going to let this campaign be dictated by fact chuckers like you. stop chucking facts out there.

 

[canndo]

WASHINGTON -- U.S. attorneys have a message for California's medical marijuana advocates: Don't blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.


The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.


"He's the one who provided the quote for our press release, and he's chosen by Eric Holder," Horwood told HuffPost in an interview. "But we didn't have direct talks with Eric Holder -- not that we wouldn't, he's been out and visited -- but just the way the Department of Justice works, he's not that hands-on on these kinds of details."


An article by Phoenix Times reporter Ray Stern claimed Horwood acknowledged that California's U.S. attorneys received "Obama's blessing" in implementing the crackdown. But in an interview with The Huffington Post, Horwood, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in California's Eastern District, distanced herself from that language.


"What I said, or at least meant to say, was that the U.S. Attorneys in California saw the need for coordinated enforcement actions and spoke with folks in Main Justice in D.C. (not the Obama Administration)," she told HuffPost in an email.


Cole declined to attend any California press conferences on the issue not, Horwood insisted, because he was distancing himself from the crackdown, but because California is a long way to travel.

State Senator Mark Leno (D) has joined Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) in requesting meetings with the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to discuss the reasons behind the crackdown.


So far their requests have gone unanswered. "They're talking amongst themselves," said Ammiano of federal prosecutors, "and really causing tremendous, unnecessary chilling effects."


Steve DeAngelo of Oakland medical cannabis club Harborside Health Center said such effects may be the end goal.


"Federal prosecutors are not trying to clean up the regulated medical cannabis industry, they are trying to destroy it," he said at a Tuesday press conference in San Francisco. "Their real target is not criminal gangs, but rather the systems of licensing and regulation implemented by dozens of communities state-wide. This is destroying tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of tax dollars in local, state and federal tax revenue."


The crackdown comes even as 50 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana, according to a recently released Gallup poll, up from just 36 percent in 2006.

Much as I would like to, I have trouble buying this. The president would only need to say a single word - "stop". and he has not yet done so.