you have to pay $13.50 to vote in pennsylvania

[UncleBuck]

are the righties still trying to avoid discussing their love of being forced to pay the government money in order to be able to vote?

 

[zambonic]

[h=2]The Florida Secretary of State has discovered 53,000 dead voters registered to vote. The Secretary of State has also flagged thousands of potential non-citizens who are also registered to vote. This discovery is indicative of a wider national problem with dead and ineligible voters on the rolls heading into the Presidential election.[/h]In the 2012 legislative session, Florida finally passed a law requiring the use of the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) to determine if dead people are registered to vote in Florida. Secretary of State Kurt Browning and then-State Election Director Don Palmer proposed this idea in the previous legislative session, but the bill did not pass.
Florida discovered the dead voters by matching voter rolls against the SSDI.
The SSDI is the list of Americans who have died and applied for death benefits. Because an application must be submitted by the next of kin and carries criminal penalties for false statements, it is considered the most accurate list of dead voters available.
Yet most states don’t use the SSDI. Instead, they use a hodge-podge of other information, usually compiled from the state bureaus of vital statistics. But state bureau reporting is slow and incomplete.
Three counties in Florida have reported more citizens registered to vote than people alive eligible to vote – St. Johns, Okaloosa, and Santa Rosa – according to the most recent Election Assistance Commission report.
Having dead people infesting the rolls is the first step to voter impersonation.
Federal law requires states to have a reasonable voter list maintenance program and gives the Eric Holder Justice Department the power to sue states that don’t. Not surprisingly, Holder’s DOJ has not brought a single case under the law to require states to clean up corrupted voter rolls. Indeed, when I served at the DOJ Voting Section, an announcement was made in November 2009 that this provision of the law would not be enforced. The political leadership was philosophically opposed to the law, and they said so.

Make no mistake, the problem of corrupted voter rolls is not confined to Florida. It extends to New Mexico, Iowa, Indiana, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, and other states. Judicial Watch has notified various states they are in violation of the law and will be filing lawsuits to force the sort of clean-up that Florida has now started.
Many resist cleaning up the voter rolls as directed by the Secretary of State. Brenda Snipes, the Supervisor of Elections in Broward County (Fort Lauderdale) is one.
"I'm feeling really uncomfortable about this," Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes told officials with the state's Division of Elections.
With the election just months away, the time for removing ineligible voters is now. Unfortunately, millions are on the rolls across the nation, and election officials from the DOJ to local offices are reluctant to act.



Nothing to see here folks... just keep moving on!!

 

[UncleBuck]

holy shit, you mean to say that the retirement capital of the world has several thousand registered voters who had the audacity to kick this mortal coil?

heavens to betsy, we must disenfranchise millions to correct this ominous problem of old people dying!

how exactly does a dead person make it to the polls in florida, illegal smile's sock puppet?

 

[NLXSK1]

are the righties still trying to avoid discussing their love of being forced to pay the government money in order to be able to vote?

You ask the rich to pay billions more in confiscatory taxes but get all pissy when someone is required to pay less than 20 bucks for an ID...

And you dont deal in class warfare.... ROFLMFAO!!! Fucking priceless....

 

[ChesusRice]

You ask the rich to pay billions more in confiscatory taxes but get all pissy when someone is required to pay less than 20 bucks for an ID...

And you dont deal in class warfare.... ROFLMFAO!!! Fucking priceless....

Yeah
But it would cost my grandma several hundred
Just to get her Birth certificate fixed and mailed

 

[zambonic]

It extends to New Mexico, Iowa, Indiana, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, and other states.

 

[UncleBuck]

You ask the rich to pay billions more in confiscatory taxes but get all pissy when someone is required to pay less than 20 bucks for an ID...

And you dont deal in class warfare.... ROFLMFAO!!! Fucking priceless....

taxes are quite legitimate under the 16th amendment.

paying money to the government in order to be able to vote is not legitimate under the 24th amendment.

you remember that silly old thing called the constitution, don't ya?

or did you forget about that while concocting a new series of lies about your shuper aweshome bushinessh?

 

[UncleBuck]

It extends to New Mexico, Iowa, Indiana, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, and other states.

ya mean to say, registered voters die in states other than florida?

fuck me sideways and call me mandy, we must disenfranchise millions so that dead grandpa bill don't reanimate himself and cast a vote for obama!

even the republican lawyers association can only find less than 350 cases of voter fraud, most of it being registration fraud which can't be prevented via an ID, in the last 10 years.

now go cry in your corn flakes, illegal smile's gay sock puppet.

 

[ChesusRice]

In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Florida’s former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the “whack-a-do, right-wing crazies” in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.
In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. “I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting,” he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how “minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party,” according to the AP.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

 

[ink the world]

You ask the rich to pay billions more in confiscatory taxes but get all pissy when someone is required to pay less than 20 bucks for an ID...

And you dont deal in class warfare.... ROFLMFAO!!! Fucking priceless....

Actually all he's asking for is the rich to pay the same rate as WE ALL DO...that isn't class warfare, it's called equality. The tax system as it stands is class warfare. Upwards wealth redistribution

Dont you have an imaginary business that "clears $50k a year" and doesn't have a profit to worry about?

 

[canndo]

The Florida Secretary of State has discovered 53,000 dead voters registered to vote. The Secretary of State has also flagged thousands of potential non-citizens who are also registered to vote. This discovery is indicative of a wider national problem with dead and ineligible voters on the rolls heading into the Presidential election.

In the 2012 legislative session, Florida finally passed a law requiring the use of the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) to determine if dead people are registered to vote in Florida. Secretary of State Kurt Browning and then-State Election Director Don Palmer proposed this idea in the previous legislative session, but the bill did not pass.
Florida discovered the dead voters by matching voter rolls against the SSDI.
The SSDI is the list of Americans who have died and applied for death benefits. Because an application must be submitted by the next of kin and carries criminal penalties for false statements, it is considered the most accurate list of dead voters available.
Yet most states don’t use the SSDI. Instead, they use a hodge-podge of other information, usually compiled from the state bureaus of vital statistics. But state bureau reporting is slow and incomplete.
Three counties in Florida have reported more citizens registered to vote than people alive eligible to vote – St. Johns, Okaloosa, and Santa Rosa – according to the most recent Election Assistance Commission report.
Having dead people infesting the rolls is the first step to voter impersonation.
Federal law requires states to have a reasonable voter list maintenance program and gives the Eric Holder Justice Department the power to sue states that don’t. Not surprisingly, Holder’s DOJ has not brought a single case under the law to require states to clean up corrupted voter rolls. Indeed, when I served at the DOJ Voting Section, an announcement was made in November 2009 that this provision of the law would not be enforced. The political leadership was philosophically opposed to the law, and they said so.

Make no mistake, the problem of corrupted voter rolls is not confined to Florida. It extends to New Mexico, Iowa, Indiana, West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Mississippi, and other states. Judicial Watch has notified various states they are in violation of the law and will be filing lawsuits to force the sort of clean-up that Florida has now started.
Many resist cleaning up the voter rolls as directed by the Secretary of State. Brenda Snipes, the Supervisor of Elections in Broward County (Fort Lauderdale) is one.
"I'm feeling really uncomfortable about this," Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes told officials with the state's Division of Elections.
With the election just months away, the time for removing ineligible voters is now. Unfortunately, millions are on the rolls across the nation, and election officials from the DOJ to local offices are reluctant to act.



Nothing to see here folks... just keep moving on!!

Another diversion from reality. This proves nothing at all - registration fraud is not voter fraud. The organization required to turn dead registrants into dead votes is obviously a hinderance to orchestrated voter fraud. Dead people rarely vote and this is no comparison to denying citizens the ability to cast legitimate ballots. The right throws up this obfuscation over and over again.

it is interesting that you didn't manage to highlight the operative part of that sentence, "the first step..."

 

[canndo]

You ask the rich to pay billions more in confiscatory taxes but get all pissy when someone is required to pay less than 20 bucks for an ID...

And you dont deal in class warfare.... ROFLMFAO!!! Fucking priceless....

Typical. obscure the point and ignore the facts, it is all one can do in the face of voter surpression. This battle has already been adjudicated, poll taxes are illegal. Anything that forces a voter to pay for the express purpose of voting is a poll tax.

 

[ChesusRice]

When you are asked for your ID at the liquor store, is the store participating in alcohol suppression? Dumb ass lefty.

People have to identify themselves every day in our society, so all you punks can do is accuse decent citizens of "voter suppression" simply to keep fraud out of our system. You punks really need to your lying big nose busted.

I never get asked for ID
Maybe you do becuase your 15 years old

 

[canndo]

When you are asked for your ID at the liquor store, is the store participating in alcohol suppression? Dumb ass lefty.

There is no constitutional right to purchase liquor. There happens to be one to vote. Why does the right have so much problem with the concepts of Constitutionaly protected rights?

Oh, it just came to me, because conservatives see only two liberties - the right to keep and bear and the right to property.

 

[Grandpapy]

When you are asked for your ID at the liquor store, is the store participating in alcohol suppression? Dumb ass lefty.

People have to identify themselves every day in our society, so all you punks can do is accuse decent citizens of "voter suppression", while the truth is we are trying to control fraud. You punks really need your big fat lying noses busted.

(They will never think of counterfeit cards)

 

[ChesusRice]

There is no constitutional right to purchase liquor. There happens to be one to vote. Why does the right have so much problem with the concepts of Constitutionaly protected rights?

Oh, it just came to me, because conservatives see only two liberties - the right to keep and bear and the right to property.

NO they have exclusions for that one as well
And it aint your property if they want to develop something and take it under eminent domain

 

[Grandpapy]

Then just use the number already assigned to the citizen to check them off the list. SSN!

 

[canndo]

NO they have exclusions for that one as well
And it aint your property if they want to develop something and take it under eminent domain

I believe that decsion was a fairly partisan one - to the left.

 

[canndo]

Then just use the number already assigned to the citizen to check them off the list. SSN!

No. SSN should not be used as ID. the voter roll has been used to great effect in my state for many years.


What I have most difficulty with is the right's contention that THIS time, THIS election, THIS year, voter fraud is a problem that has to be handled this very moment. We could't wait and give the voters 2 years or 4. Most other legislation allows a grace period or a long transition time in order to accomodate millions but not this time, some of these laws were voted in mere months ago.

Gee, I wonder why. And gee, I wonder why they are changed in states that went to Obama last election and until recently, in Ohio, they were selective about it - in counties that went to Mccain, why they get plenty of extra time to vote, in ones that Obama collected, no, no accomodations for black people.

Beenthere doesn't know why those rules were changed and he doesn't know why they were changed just now. He hasn't a clue, shit just.... happens.

 

[haight]

taxes are quite legitimate under the 16th amendment.

paying money to the government in order to be able to vote is not legitimate under the 24th amendment.

you remember that silly old thing called the constitution, don't ya?

or did you forget about that while concocting a new series of lies about your shuper aweshome bushinessh?

You are a fucking riot. A fucking riot Buck.