Penyajo
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Thank you sir. I will be sure to throw up a few pics when the setup is complete. STAY HIGH!!!
++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems
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hellraizer30
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I have done just this many time with great results, just make sure to cover the growdan part with a small peace of white polly.Amazing thread here Hellraizer (extra props for being a cenobite fan)!!
How do you feel about combining hydroton and grodan cubes (4")? Like filling the trays up with pebbles and just bury the cubes in it?
That was my plan anyway, but I still have time to reconsider..
hellraizer30
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With a setup as your wanting i would flood x3 for 15min during lights on, but you could go x4 to
And another thing by the way, how much space do you think each clone should have in the tray when growing sog style? The trays fit 11 of these 4" cubes if I really push the together.
Growing pure indica now do I'm not really shure if I have to veg them for a bit in the trays if im gonna get any yield out of the first run..
Growing pure indica now do I'm not really shure if I have to veg them for a bit in the trays if im gonna get any yield out of the first run..
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
If you dont veg and just go 12/12 once the clone is rooted you could jam pack them in there, but if
you veg your going to need to spread them out!
you veg your going to need to spread them out!
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
No prblem........
BUdbuddysmile
Active Member
I would like to start off focusing on root rot and slime thats common in the ebb/grow systems!
Root rot! Its seems to take charge in week 3 of bloom with the exsposive amounts of root filling
The buckets, cap has x2 versoins of buckets one is a flat bottom and the other is a raised style
With a slight angle to help draining! Does either one work not really, water still remains in the
Bucket in between floods and sits with 0 air and under the heat of your lamp. No air = stagnent
Water = in root rot! And water siting under lights in black tubing is like a heater increasing temps
In one case i did a test where my chiller was keeping a good 62 to 63f in the res! And i installed
A water proof temp gauge in the main line that feeds the buckets. My floods are spaced 4 hours
Apart and half way through to the next flood my inline water temp was 78! I couldnt believe it lol
So high temps = brown slime or pythium! This all took place with a bad ass chiller in place. Everytime
It cycled a flood it would bring back bactiria to the res and thus causing a revolving cycle of shit!
To eliminate a good amount of this high temps i replaced my black lines with 3/4 white pvc and put
Foam on the lines, the kind you snap on to help with frozen water pipes. White pvc and no direct
Light on the line got it down to 65 to 66f from 78in doing so it almost elininated slime and made
My chiller run half as much. Back to root rot! Even though cap raised there buckets raising it a1in to
2inchs more is a win all to geting them to drain 100% and elininating rot. Keep in mind lots of air in
The res is key to replacing fresh clean water full of air to your plants roots! When you raisem up dont
Raise the controll box, i know by doing this you lower the flood level! Its ok your plant will love you
For it!
Second run with a Grow Monster First run through veg, I was seeing some browning of the roots pretty bad. I did the same thing with the foam insulation. I havnt tested the temps in the line, but I just figured it couldn't hurt. I will have to give the pvc a shot as well. Seems like that would make for a nice set up. Also, I have an airstone running to the bottom of each bucket to keep the water from being stagnant. I feel like it has helped out and its all of about $40 to run them to 9 buckets pump and all. Good Idea?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
With the monster buckets i would do just that! There seems to be alot of water that gets caught with the cap 5gal buckets
over the small ones, so yes its a good idea.
Penyajo
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Hey hellraiz. I finally have finished piecing together my new setup. Flood table is now in the tent and clones are on their second day of rooting. The only question I have is how deep do you recommend flooding 4x4 RW cubes? If I have it set at about an inch up the rock wool will it wick up the rest or do you recommend going higher than that. I will throw some pictures up in a little bit when I get home. Thanks for all your help man. STAY HIGH!!!
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
R/w wicks great so no need to flood deep, this will also allow for better growth and less chances of over watering.
so a inch of water would work swell! Would love to check out some pics, and answer anymore question you might
have PEN
Penyajo
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Alright so here we go I will try to walk you through what I got going on. Got the 24"x44" flood table and built a nice stand for it out of 1.5"pvc. Then I decided to buy a cooler for the rez. Went a little above and beyond on the cooler size but that cant hurt lol
. The pump I bought is a 280gph and seems fill the tray up pretty quickly. I have my clones rooting small 1" RW cubes and will go straight into the 4" a few days after they are showing root. For veg I am using 100w t5 and 100w of cfls which does just fine. Well just wanted to share some pics with ya. Let me know what you think. STAY HIGH!!!
. The pump I bought is a 280gph and seems fill the tray up pretty quickly. I have my clones rooting small 1" RW cubes and will go straight into the 4" a few days after they are showing root. For veg I am using 100w t5 and 100w of cfls which does just fine. Well just wanted to share some pics with ya. Let me know what you think. STAY HIGH!!!
Penyajo
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Yeah it is. Like I said I went a little bit over board on the rez. 30 gallons should be enough lol. Ill tell you what, it does a really good job at keeping some water cool thats for sure. STAY HIGH!!!
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Nice setup pen everything looks clean and a good choice on going bigger with the res.
Dabsallday
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Sickest setup ever... Penyajo's
Penyajo
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Yeah the only thing I am having troubles with is figuring out how I am going to do a rez change. I would like to clean it out on a weekly basis but that bitch is heavy.. So I am trying to figure out how to run all the old water to waste which is about 10ft from my tent. Thinking of just getting a long enough hose for the sub pump and run it across the floor. Hopefully she will be strong enough to push it the whole way. If it works out I will fill the rez just by pouring water into my overflow. Still have alot of shit I have to work out before I am perfectly happy but I am definitely getting really close. STAY HIGH!!!