9 week old outdoor marijuana need some help... hollaa

atidd11

Well-Known Member
Yea dude that could be a pheno of the genetics, but most likely its from cold overnight temps.
If anybody had any sense this is the answer theyd give u with all the info u gave this 102 temp during the day and then the 40 degree drop CLEARLY is going to be the only possible thing.. Stupid ass people telling you thats a nitrogen def hahahaha thats almost funny bro.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
Peace and Love you have no idea what you are talking about you joke. I didn't say anything about temperature that was someone else. I had studied marijuana cultivation for five years. I mean book study not just growing. Purple is a genetic trait you fool. If you can real evidence printed published that says purple is nitrogen deficency I will eat my own words. MY plants would put you to shame.
 
Peace and Love you have no idea what you are talking about you joke. I didn't say anything about temperature that was someone else. I had studied marijuana cultivation for five years. I mean book study not just growing. Purple is a genetic trait you fool. If you can real evidence printed published that says purple is nitrogen deficency I will eat my own words. MY plants would put you to shame.

I’m not here to give a lesson on cannabis cultivation, just a little bit of
advise. I’m also not here to argue with anyone, just take a look at the pic he
posted. Do you really think this is temperament? If it is temperament, it’s
way to soon to stress the plant out like that. The picture posted was of a very
young plant with chaotic purple spots on the leaves.



The reason some strains of marijuana turn purple is the same reason why
some trees leaves turn purple in the fall. This phenomenon is caused by the
occurrence of something known as anthocyanin accumulation. Having this happen
before late flowering are signs of a plant being stressed.



Please understand, a purple plant does not mean a better or more potent
plant. The reason most believe purple bud is good is because, people who have
been growing long enough to master this technique don’t mess around with plants
that cant take the “stress” late in flowering.


And by the way, I highly doubt your outdoor grow has anything on my indoor
or outdoor. I’m Totally willing to let SC labs be the judge and make that
decision if you are.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
MAybe if I was growing dispensary cones in my backyard like you I would do it. I NEVER SAID IT WAS TEMPERATURE. fuck
 
Buddy, calm down theirs no reason to get
all effeminate. Granted the clones are doing rather well, however my seedlings
(notbag seed) are monsters in comparison.


As for the temperature please pardon me, I
assumed you meant the catalyst to the expression of this genetic trait was due
to the dramatic difference in temp explained by the poster. If this is not what
you meant by saying “Purple is genetic variable not a deficiency”. Then what
did you mean? The last time I checked there is always a reason for genetic
expression.

MAybe if I was growing dispensary cones in my backyard like you I would do it. I NEVER SAID IT WAS TEMPERATURE. fuck
And yes maybe if you were
growing like me you would do it, until then keep
your opinions informative
and your boasting to a minimum.

 

dc4

Well-Known Member
Calm down ladies, :D
Don't remember who said that but, one progrower explained the purple tint is under the layer of chlorophyl, in cold temps the chlorophyl breaks down, revealing the purple layer. Now the strains "purple" are just strains that have a bigger layer of chlorophyl or smthn like that. There you go. And it's not a defidiency. So purple weird spots could be, but not this.
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
I don't get why you people ignore experienced growers and take advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about. Purple has nothing to do with nitrogen def. that is pure stupidity. Purple is genetic variable not a deficency.
Except a lot of different plants including but not limited to MJ will turn purple if they get too cold, because the cold keeps the plant from being able to use any phosphorous, and the lack of phosphorous makes the plants go purple...but nitrogen won't make a plant turn purple for sure...
and 60 degrees is not too cold by a long shot...it has to get below 50 to impact the plant processes enough to slow phosphorous enough to turn it purple...
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
and often veins will be purple, or stripes on the stalk...but if there are splotches of purple on the leaf then something is wrong nute wise...There is too much something, that is throwing off the balance of everything else...

and if all those plants are the same age then you definitely have some issues with the small ones...

and so far all the outdoor pics posted in this thread have been pretty sad for outdoors...My indoor plants look better than all these outdoor puny plants...lol
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
And too much nitrogen can make a plant do anything...but not enough nitrogen can only express itself through purple leaf stems...but purple leaf stems are also indicative of a phosphorous, or potassium deficiency...and a lot of plants just have purple leaf stems...so ignore purple stems...
Beyond that too little nitrogen will not make a plant turn purple...ever! It will make a plant grow slow and then yellow from the bottom up...
 

PeyoteReligion

Well-Known Member
I don't get why you people ignore experienced growers and take advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about. Purple has nothing to do with nitrogen def. that is pure stupidity. Purple is genetic variable not a deficency.
He means phosphorus. Purple in veg is caused by phosphorus deficiency...but in flower purple is a genetic trait yes.
 
I’m glad some logical thinkers chimed in to help clear the air. One of the
most difficult aspects of answering questions in regards to the plant is, there
are to many different variables to consider. Nutrient deficiencies are
displayed in so many different fashions many of them looking alike. Not knowing
the genetics, nutrient intake, and soil medium makes trouble shooting become
very precarious.
 

Rottedroots

Well-Known Member
99.9% of soils have more than enough NP and K to get them thru the seedling stage and probably maturity but if your dirt is that hungry for nutes than it is seriously played out or is sand. I sure would hate to have to buy soil but you gots to do what you gots to do. I'm willing to put my own blend of compost and soil up against anything you could ever buy. Rich and dark with a fine tilth!! FF ain't got nuttin on me. Now if I only had more hours of direct sun...For me the soil is the easy part!!! It's the sun I need. :wall: :leaf:
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
I have to hike two miles and I only attended to my plants once a week and I bet they are still bigger than yours.
 

Rottedroots

Well-Known Member
I'll tell you what balz.. My best outdoor grows involved to kind of hike you speak of. My walk was across flat CT valley flood plain and you could stick your arm into the soil up to the shoulder. Visited them every week or two lumping water in two liter bottles thru more mosquitoes then should be endured. Always went in on my hands and knees for the last couple hundred yards taking a different route every time. They never received ANY fertilizer but the soil was great and stayed pretty moist. The perfect set-up except the walk. :sad:

My point really is that they don't require alot of attention. Good soil, ample moisture and full sun combine to make it a no brainer. NPK and micros are just not that important in first year soil. It's a freakin weed!! No harder to grow than tomatoes just tougher to get away with. These days I am growing in pots in part sun but at least I can carry H2O in five gallon buckets. They like that!! Four solid 3' plants pinched and tied back. All plants I've never grown. A cheese, dinafem, super silver, OG 18 and a buddha tahoe. Not sure which four made it (doesn't matter) but I'm hoping things turn out OK.
:leaf:
Even at two or three zips a plant, life should be good for a long time.
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
I don't grow outside...I just know that outdoor plants should be larger than indoor plants....
One of my friends has a few of my indoor plants outside and they are freaking beasts! Probably 7 ft tall and just healthy looking...most of the newbie outdoor grows I see are just that...
Newbie outdoor grows. I have some indoor pics up on here just every once in a bit...I don't like all the posting of pictures...makes me feel nervous sometimes...but I am just saying that for real the pictures posted so far in this thread are nothing to brag about...
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
You should easily get more than 2 or 3 oz off an outdoor plant...that is what I get off my indoor plants...
I know that often outdoor plants might not be as healthy or bug free, but I am pretty sure that they are bigger and yield more...
Is this not supposed to be the case...

Brag where there is reason...otherwise just read and learn and try...save the bragging for later.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
MY plants in that pic are all over 6 foot and have three main stalks. If it wasn't for the lack of rain around here they would be far more full.
 
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