How would raising taxes affect you and our economy?

lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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beenthere said:
Bucky's one of those clowns who does a five minute search on wikipedia and becomes an expert in that field.
He didn't even know his own damn tax rate, now he's is in this thread arguing economics!
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Anyone who claims to be an expert in every subject, is an expert in nothing.
 
deprave

deprave

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beenthere said:
There are many on this forum who avidly support the US government raising taxes on the upper income earners, what kind of impact will this have on your life? Why would it help the economy, and do you think that revenue would be used to pay down our national debt?
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It wouldn't have any impact on my life as a middle income earner who is gainfully employed (regardless I have the skills to make money on my own or get a job easily)
 
deprave

deprave

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Sorry guys this is one topic that I have to agree with UB and the "liburels" for the most part and even I don't believe in taxes at all but corporate tax something I have always been leary about especially for the fact that trickle down theory is a bunch of bullshit and one of the main parts of the Republican's game. I wish people would wake up to what lying corrupt scumbags the republican's are playing off all your hearts and minds. If you see the Democrat guise then its time you recognize the Republican.

I think if we have taxes everyone should pay the same, I don't think the rich should pay more, but I also don't think anyone should have to pay any income tax period. I don't agree that making the rich pay less improves the economy or jobs, I also don't agree that making them pay more does that either, perhaps by enabling consumers it could but that is just more incentive to cheat or whatever. All taxes should be equal for every PERSON. Corporate Taxes, as far as giant mega corporations...part of me whats to say Fuck them, they are corrupt as all hell, tbh fukin Pfizer and JP morgan we should take all their fucking money and fucking dismantle these blood sucking parasites on humanity, free market be damned these evil fuckers do not count. Seriously if corporations are people then these cocksuckers need to be on trial and get life behind bars. Shit Pfizer has essentially murdered billions.

Free Market Philosophy and The Republican guise of "Trickle Down" ...seriously has you people defending these parasites..think about that..Your defending absolute parasites...and here we go again...Divide and Conquer..so fucking easy to split us in two..

These are not people, these are not just succusfull businesses, They are not doing anything but sucking our life force, you are defending them.... Please really really think about this...Think about pfizer, goldman sachs, bigmacs, wal-mart, Monsanto...think what they are doing to us. They do not benefit us whatsoever, they are literally killing us and taking our jobs. Fucking Literally killing us and taking our jobs.....this can't be emphasized enough. But again, make them pay more money? What the fuck do they care..they shit money...but I am sorry this has absolutely nothing to do with JOB CREATORS LOL AND FACTORIES GOING OVERSEAS GTFO THIS IS A LIE! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOBS! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US! THEY ARE SELLING YOU ALL LIES! (On both sides)
 
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beenthere

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deprave said:
Sorry guys this is one topic that I have to agree with UB and the "liburels" for the most part and even I don't believe in taxes at all but corporate tax something I have always been leary about especially for the fact that trickle down theory is a bunch of bullshit and one of the main parts of the Republican's game. I wish people would wake up to what lying corrupt scumbags the republican's are playing off all your hearts and minds. If you see the Democrat guise then its time you recognize the Republican.

I think if we have taxes everyone should pay the same, I don't think the rich should pay more, but I also don't think anyone should have to pay any income tax period. I don't agree that making the rich pay less improves the economy or jobs, I also don't agree that making them pay more does that either, perhaps by enabling consumers it could but that is just more incentive to cheat or whatever. All taxes should be equal for every PERSON. Corporate Taxes, as far as giant mega corporations...part of me whats to say Fuck them, they are corrupt as all hell, tbh fukin Pfizer and JP morgan we should take all their fucking money and fucking dismantle these blood sucking parasites on humanity, free market be damned these evil fuckers do not count. Seriously if corporations are people then these cocksuckers need to be on trial and get life behind bars. Shit Pfizer has essentially murdered billions.

Free Market Philosophy and The Republican guise of "Trickle Down" ...seriously has you people defending these parasites..think about that..Your defending absolute parasites...and here we go again...Divide and Conquer..so fucking easy to split us in two..

These are not people, these are not just succusfull businesses, They are not doing anything but sucking our life force, you are defending them.... Please really really think about this...Think about pfizer, goldman sachs, bigmacs, wal-mart, Monsanto...think what they are doing to us. They do not benefit us whatsoever, they are literally killing us and taking our jobs. Fucking Literally killing us and taking our jobs.....this can't be emphasized enough. But again, make them pay more money? What the fuck do they care..they shit money...but I am sorry this has absolutely nothing to do with JOB CREATORS LOL AND FACTORIES GOING OVERSEAS GTFO THIS IS A LIE! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOBS! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US! THEY ARE SELLING YOU ALL LIES! (On both sides)
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You and I principally agree on some kind of fair tax where everyone has some skin in the game.
Unfortunately, the middle class and poor will always outnumber the high earners and politicians will pander to them in exchange for votes.

Almost everyone I see discussing economics in this forum mistakenly mixes up our free trade economy with our budget and national debt.

The fact is, our economy could boom while funding a much smaller government, this fact is rarely discussed.
On the other hand, we can't say the same about a robust government, because our private sector funds it.

IMO, federal taxes should only fund basic programs that provide and protect the nation as a whole, we need to get back to empowering the states and move away from a centralized federal government.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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beenthere said:
You and I principally agree on some kind of fair tax where everyone has some skin in the game.
Unfortunately, the middle class and poor will always outnumber the high earners and politicians will pander to them in exchange for votes.

Almost everyone I see discussing economics in this forum mistakenly mixes up our free trade economy with our budget and national debt.

The fact is, our economy could boom while funding a much smaller government, this fact is rarely discussed.
On the other hand, we can't say the same about a robust government, because our private sector funds it.

IMO, federal taxes should only fund basic programs that provide and protect the nation as a whole, we need to get back to empowering the states and move away from a centralized federal government.
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That is precisely how this Republic was designed to operate. Unfortunately, there is no going back.

Once you taste the government cheese, though of lesser quality, there is no going back cause its FREEEEEEE!
 
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JustAnotherHead

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I would love to UncleFuck and his "friend"/sockpuppet over on William F Buckley's blog site posting their pictures as arguments. Ha Ha Ha. Then again they couldn't make it through the first page of one of his books without a dictionary handy.
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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deprave said:
Sorry guys this is one topic that I have to agree with UB and the "liburels" for the most part and even I don't believe in taxes at all but corporate tax something I have always been leary about especially for the fact that trickle down theory is a bunch of bullshit and one of the main parts of the Republican's game. I wish people would wake up to what lying corrupt scumbags the republican's are playing off all your hearts and minds. If you see the Democrat guise then its time you recognize the Republican.

I think if we have taxes everyone should pay the same, I don't think the rich should pay more, but I also don't think anyone should have to pay any income tax period. I don't agree that making the rich pay less improves the economy or jobs, I also don't agree that making them pay more does that either, perhaps by enabling consumers it could but that is just more incentive to cheat or whatever. All taxes should be equal for every PERSON. Corporate Taxes, as far as giant mega corporations...part of me whats to say Fuck them, they are corrupt as all hell, tbh fukin Pfizer and JP morgan we should take all their fucking money and fucking dismantle these blood sucking parasites on humanity, free market be damned these evil fuckers do not count. Seriously if corporations are people then these cocksuckers need to be on trial and get life behind bars. Shit Pfizer has essentially murdered billions.

Free Market Philosophy and The Republican guise of "Trickle Down" ...seriously has you people defending these parasites..think about that..Your defending absolute parasites...and here we go again...Divide and Conquer..so fucking easy to split us in two..

These are not people, these are not just succusfull businesses, They are not doing anything but sucking our life force, you are defending them.... Please really really think about this...Think about pfizer, goldman sachs, bigmacs, wal-mart, Monsanto...think what they are doing to us. They do not benefit us whatsoever, they are literally killing us and taking our jobs. Fucking Literally killing us and taking our jobs.....this can't be emphasized enough. But again, make them pay more money? What the fuck do they care..they shit money...but I am sorry this has absolutely nothing to do with JOB CREATORS LOL AND FACTORIES GOING OVERSEAS GTFO THIS IS A LIE! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOBS! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US, THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US! THEY ARE SELLING YOU ALL LIES! (On both sides)
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Unclebuck thinks "trickle down economics" means higher taxes for consumers and lower taxes for businesses, it does not. If we increase business taxes who will it help? The government? Go back and read the thread, UncleBuck is trying to blame income inequality on 'the great compression' which is just silly. If you agree with UncleBuck then you should know that you are doing something wrong. Income inequality has been brought upon by destruction of the dollar not lowering business taxes LOL. Corrupt corporations find tax loopholes anyway, and as you said "they shit money". Therefore, raising business taxes will only hurt small businesses and further perpetuate the problem of centralizing markets, or giant evil corporation take over.
 
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JustAnotherHead

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ink the world said:
Thats odd, my wife and I know some people that are on govt. assistance. About 1/2 of them dont have a car at all, the ones that do drive a shitbox.

Same thing with sneakers and clothes. Youre reffering to the ones that are abusing the system.

Do you think its fair that a millionaire pays a lower tax rate than you or i do?

As far as Solyndra goes, yes it was an utter failure. That being said id rather see my tax $ go towards developing renewable energy than subsidies to the most profitable corporations on earth that sell a finite product
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Sounds like you and your wife hang out with too many crackheads.
 
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