1st from Seed Grow (Cowboy Style)

Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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a while back you might remember i was having an issue with my plants growing bushy rather than vertically. I stopped growing to move house and set back up. did a first run in new coco and had no problems the plants grew as normal, second run re used the coco and they've grown stunted with more side branching than you could imagine.

anyway pic tells a thousand words so here goes:

the original plants that went bushy looked like this come harvest:
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The new plants, not the same cuts or even strains, these all came from seed.

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at first i thought it was because I'd topped the larger ones out and lollipopped underneath but this amount of side branching just isn't right.

nutewise they've had canna A&B and a little bat guano. nothing else.

i started a thread when it originally happened but no one could give me a definitive answer as to why it might be happening. I've yet to find anyone else who's had similar issues!!?

anyone got any ideas?

I was thinking i might get a fresh bag of coco and try up potting into that but there's risk of contaminating the fresh (if the issue lies in the coco?!). these plants have been under the 600 but due to the large sativa i have in with them they've been a good 2-3 foot from the light. so they should have been stretching for the sun!?
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it's doing my nut in, but i don;t know how to correct it. i'm thinking i may have to scrub the lot and start afresh, new pots, coco, plants, but i'm loathed to do that without knowing the root of the problem.
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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I cant see them pics mate can remember last time tho them harvest pics that fucka in the auto pot thingys was like a privet youd have in the back garden lol i thought it was down to the toppin an them pots mate but obviosly not all ive ever herd with reused coco is a little burn some times never bushin out what do ya do to ya coco before you reuse mate?

You wanna find out what it is an sell the fucka to peeps with hight restrictions could make a few bob! lol
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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  • a while back you might remember i was having an issue with my plants growing bushy rather than vertically. I stopped growing to move house and set back up. did a first run in new coco and had no problems the plants grew as normal, second run re used the coco and they've grown stunted with more side branching than you could imagine.

    anyway pic tells a thousand words so here goes:

    the original plants that went bushy looked like this come harvest:


    The new plants, not the same cuts or even strains, these all came from seed.



    at first i thought it was because I'd topped the larger ones out and lollipopped underneath but this amount of side branching just isn't right.

    nutewise they've had canna A&B and a little bat guano. nothing else.

    i started a thread when it originally happened but no one could give me a definitive answer as to why it might be happening. I've yet to find anyone else who's had similar issues!!?

    anyone got any ideas?

    I was thinking i might get a fresh bag of coco and try up potting into that but there's risk of contaminating the fresh (if the issue lies in the coco?!). these plants have been under the 600 but due to the large sativa i have in with them they've been a good 2-3 foot from the light. so they should have been stretching for the sun!?

    it's doing my nut in, but i don;t know how to correct it. i'm thinking i may have to scrub the lot and start afresh, new pots, coco, plants, but i'm loathed to do that without knowing the root of the problem.

    help me brother 6'ers please!​




 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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can you see em now lad?

all i do is use a bit of cannazyme to break down the dead root. they get flushed with ripen the last week of flower. but i can't see that making them bush out like hedge :(

as for the DOG male, i'm stunned as to how it's come about. plans at the moment lol i haven't made any. one problem at a time.
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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well i did chedz, the yield will be less than a normal un stunted plant if the original is anything to go by. that bush with half cut out is a livers believe it or not. possibly one of the viniest strains going. fuck knows how i've managed to make it bush like that.

only bloody me...
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Aye i can see um na mate defo looks like same prob they dont look like theyve put no hight on atall from last time i seen um unless its same pic lol
cant think what it could be mate wish i could help if you use the cannazym cant be nothin to do with roots in there i dont think maybe somethin with your micro life in the reused stuf? i dont know but maybe to much of a certen type fuck knows dont think that would effect how a plant grows wonder if it would do the same on a strechy plant. only other thing i can think of is uve unwillingly mixed your own bushmaster with some of the ingredients in the ripen an cannazym lol dout that. it is a strange 1 tho its like its changin the hole strucrure no matter what strain.
 
cheddar1985

cheddar1985

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Don Gin and Ton said:
well i did chedz, the yield will be less than a normal un stunted plant if the original is anything to go by. that bush with half cut out is a livers believe it or not. possibly one of the viniest strains going. fuck knows how i've managed to make it bush like that.

only bloody me...
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If u fimmed all of em theres your answer if not then i av nt the foggyist lad!!
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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DST said:
how freakish......I would hazzard at a contamination of something else, but hey, you never know. I got a male from my OG.
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i know, it's crazy. to be honest though it hasn't got that trademark pong so it's going the journey.
PUKKA BUD said:
Aye i can see um na mate defo looks like same prob they dont look like theyve put no hight on atall from last time i seen um unless its same pic lol
cant think what it could be mate wish i could help if you use the cannazym cant be nothin to do with roots in there i dont think maybe somethin with your micro life in the reused stuf? i dont know but maybe to much of a certen type fuck knows dont think that would effect how a plant grows wonder if it would do the same on a strechy plant. only other thing i can think of is uve unwillingly mixed your own bushmaster with some of the ingredients in the ripen an cannazym lol dout that. it is a strange 1 tho its like its changin the hole strucrure no matter what strain.
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that's exactly it, changing the structure on all of them. but how is a mystery to me lad. i do use purple maxx and a bit of snow storm which is the same range as bushmaster but those are more for putting resin on than owt else maybe enhancing purple lol...
cheddar1985 said:
If u fimmed all of em theres your answer if not then i av nt the foggyist lad!!
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naa man, only some of them got the fimming. the new ones are untopped and doing the same.

i think a weeks flush then i'll pot them up into some new coco and bigger tubs if they turn out runty and bushy, i'll scrub the lot and start new everything. pots coco nutes. be costly but i can't think of owt else to do.
 
mantiszn

mantiszn

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Aren't you supposed to soak used coco afterwards in high dosage cannazyme? As opposed to only using it towards the end of the cycle? Could be wrong though don't reuse mine :/
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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not sure mate, i generally just chuck a bit in the mix now n then, i'll have to have a look at the label tonight. i think i might stop re using it though.
 
mantiszn

mantiszn

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I'm almost certain I read some people saying they actually "wash" the coco before reuse (even before first use if previously untreated)
You seem to have identified the issue reoccurred after reuse on separate occasions, seems like it may explain if that is the case.

Don Gin and Ton said:
not sure mate, i generally just chuck a bit in the mix now n then, i'll have to have a look at the label tonight. i think i might stop re using it though.
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Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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well that had actually gone through my head too but it wasn't every time i re used it sometimes it was fine which makes me wonder if it's a combo of the nutes i've been putting in. i use canna pro so it's fine to use straight out the bag.
 
PUKKA BUD

PUKKA BUD

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Don Gin and Ton said:
that's exactly it, changing the structure on all of them. but how is a mystery to me lad. i do use purple maxx and a bit of snow storm which is the same range as bushmaster but those are more for putting resin on than owt else maybe enhancing purple lol...
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Could be a mixture of a few things still in the coco then mate actin like bushmaster any1 know the main ingredients of it? could check your stuff mate.

mantiszn said:
Aren't you supposed to soak used coco afterwards in high dosage cannazyme? As opposed to only using it towards the end of the cycle? Could be wrong though don't reuse mine :/
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Yeh mate i always was told rinse/flush in double strength cannazym then spread out an let it sit for a day or 2 turnin it abit. and its good to go but only use for your final pots cos can be a little hot still for young uns.
 
DST

DST

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I straight up recycle coco, then recycle most of what is in a pot even if it's mixed with compost / soil. Then I just mix it up with some calcium mix, then add myco and some slow release for connifers of all things, lol. Mix that up and then straight into another pot. No washing or owt. Just water for a couple weeks though.
 
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