boneheadbob
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Cinderella Story
Comments from MrSoul:
http://highboldtage.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/c99-cinderella-99-cindy-99-brothers-grimm/
Ive been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the Cinderella Story, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ Sensi Smile coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didnt expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call Princess.
Therefore Princess mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & CafeGirl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.
The name Cinderella was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. Its also VERY similar to the story of the Morgan Horse go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so Id say youre probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, itll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you cant find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown its most likely a female. Isnt that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I dont know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It wont fool anyone whos familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and theyre harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden stinks.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them teas of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which Im sure is true.
The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical pot stench not at all skunky -shes sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more psychedelic I think thats what youre looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more its easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very trippy C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary its too speedy and paranoia-inducing for most people. But shes so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.
The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/PrincessBrother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is TRIP WEED with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If youre growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those extra beans (included in your order) I dont know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but its NOT Durban/Thai. Im still developing it, so they wont see it for about 6 months.
Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! CafeGirl is a sister of Princess Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. CafeGirl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream kinda smells like a Creamsicle -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and CafeGirl). CafeGirl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to creep up over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of CafeGirl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.
Sure, Id be glad to answer your qs:
1. I flower clones when theyre about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88′s will you a variety of phenotypes theyre not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and speckled not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heavens Stairway you WONT get ripped off but Ill describe the plants: As seedlings theyre fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, its FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY you probably wont believe how fat and dense and frosty theyll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like theyre wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you wont believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering til theyre done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; its very cerebral the only body effect is the jitters. I certainly wouldnt recommend it to anyone looking to mellow out on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling PERFECT!
I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, what did you do? smoke too much? The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet not at all hashy (not that theres anything WRONG with that! heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, youll like C-99 too. Its got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that paranoia inducing effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original Seed Bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are different but in the same class.
Comments from MrSoul:
http://highboldtage.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/c99-cinderella-99-cindy-99-brothers-grimm/
Ive been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the Cinderella Story, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ Sensi Smile coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didnt expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call Princess.
Therefore Princess mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.
I also got 2 more females (Genius & CafeGirl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.
The name Cinderella was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. Its also VERY similar to the story of the Morgan Horse go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so Id say youre probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, itll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you cant find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown its most likely a female. Isnt that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I dont know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It wont fool anyone whos familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and theyre harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden stinks.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them teas of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which Im sure is true.
The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical pot stench not at all skunky -shes sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more psychedelic I think thats what youre looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more its easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very trippy C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary its too speedy and paranoia-inducing for most people. But shes so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.
The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/PrincessBrother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is TRIP WEED with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If youre growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those extra beans (included in your order) I dont know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but its NOT Durban/Thai. Im still developing it, so they wont see it for about 6 months.
Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! CafeGirl is a sister of Princess Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. CafeGirl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream kinda smells like a Creamsicle -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and CafeGirl). CafeGirl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to creep up over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of CafeGirl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.
Sure, Id be glad to answer your qs:
1. I flower clones when theyre about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88′s will you a variety of phenotypes theyre not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and speckled not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heavens Stairway you WONT get ripped off but Ill describe the plants: As seedlings theyre fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, its FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY you probably wont believe how fat and dense and frosty theyll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like theyre wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you wont believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering til theyre done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; its very cerebral the only body effect is the jitters. I certainly wouldnt recommend it to anyone looking to mellow out on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling PERFECT!
I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, what did you do? smoke too much? The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet not at all hashy (not that theres anything WRONG with that! heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, youll like C-99 too. Its got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that paranoia inducing effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original Seed Bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are different but in the same class.
