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[farmer2424]

i'm not entirely sure, but it works i tested it on the salt build up in my measuring cups, let them soak for 5 mins, it all dissolved, the site states:

Ingredients: Flora Kleen Cleaning Flush Solution is a specially formulated mixture of chemicals that
are mixed in proportions to assure adequate removal of nutrient residues. The chemical identity of
the compounds and exact proportions used in the mixture are a trade secret.

Salt being water soluable isn't the biggest thing you're gonna need to worry about flushing out. I think its more of the heavy metals. I personally would rather go straight water for two week+ before chop, rather than try to flush everything out of the plant the last few days.u might lose a gram or two but it isn't like they're gonna put on ounces in the last week

 

[flowamasta]

2 weeks sounds drastic, i flushed for 2 days my first grow and it was magnificent and smooth, and that was just plain water, my 2nd grow i flushed for around 7-9 days thinking it would make a better taste. the crop wasnt as good as it could of been to begin with, so it was hard to tell, but i dont think it needed the extra flushing, i'll go with my set 3 days flushing, 2 days with ph'd water and florakleen, then 1 night of fresh water and darkness 24hrs, then chop, be a good basis for comparison i think, my sample nug is already nice and tastey, so it can olny get better i hope

 

[DST]

Chemicals......uuuurgh. lol.

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Plant-Nutrition/General-Hydroponics/GH-Ripen/

i'm not entirely sure, but it works i tested it on the salt build up in my measuring cups, let them soak for 5 mins, it all dissolved, the site states:

Ingredients: Flora Kleen Cleaning Flush Solution is a specially formulated mixture of chemicals that
are mixed in proportions to assure adequate removal of nutrient residues. The chemical identity of
the compounds and exact proportions used in the mixture are a trade secret.

 

[roachclip420]

Chemicals......uuuurgh. lol.

but not salts...which is what makes the bud taste shitty without a flush

 

[DST]

I try to avoid chemicals as much as possible.

 

[flowamasta]

aren't all nutrients chemicals ???they are all based with the same elements, potassium nitrate, calcium nitrate.....there are chemicals in our drinking water....chemicals are part of mother nature, that is where they come from to begin with. the body produces chemicals, i could go on and on, u obviously are an organic man ey? kudos to you for going that route, i picked synthetics to keep it more simple, hey if you get good results using 'chemicals' what's wrong with that? i have a mate who grows organic fish farm, same strain as mine, we get very similar results, and can't tell the difference between tastes

 

[DST]

Ok, i try to avoid man made synthesised chemicals then....

 

[flowamasta]

do you have a good reason why?? just curious....because they do the exact same thing....on a molecular structure. as to why they are called 'synthetics'

 

[flowamasta]

i only say this, cause i've worked in greenhouses growing fruits and veggies, and love organics too, but i myself have mixed up nutrients (synthetic) for strawberries, and seen amazing results that tasted sooo nice, and it really made me wonder...

you obviously have some hardcore experience behind you, so maybe you can shine the light in this topic, i'm interested on your view

 

[farmer2424]

2 weeks sounds drastic, i flushed for 2 days my first grow and it was magnificent and smooth, and that was just plain water, my 2nd grow i flushed for around 7-9 days thinking it would make a better taste. the crop wasnt as good as it could of been to begin with, so it was hard to tell, but i dont think it needed the extra flushing, i'll go with my set 3 days flushing, 2 days with ph'd water and florakleen, then 1 night of fresh water and darkness 24hrs, then chop, be a good basis for comparison i think, my sample nug is already nice and tastey, so it can olny get better i hope

hey, everyone has their own methods

 

[billcollector99]

i'm not entirely sure, but it works i tested it on the salt build up in my measuring cups, let them soak for 5 mins, it all dissolved, the site states:

Ingredients: Flora Kleen Cleaning Flush Solution is a specially formulated mixture of chemicals that
are mixed in proportions to assure adequate removal of nutrient residues. The chemical identity of
the compounds and exact proportions used in the mixture are a trade secret.

Sugar water dude, just like clearex...

 

[flowamasta]

Sugar water dude, just like clearex...

yeah i have heard that, but it isnt stated on their website, so that is kinda unproven....but i'll go with that, it can't be bad, my mentor says ' if i wanna waste more money' he says it probably cant hurt if it seems to work, when i flush with it, it does seem to dislodge some extra gunk, and some bits of root hairs now and then.....i must admit, i'm getting a much more stable ph using it after i flush, it doesn't drop dramatically after the first couple of days after a purge, so i'm not having to add any ph up...

 

[DST]

Well I also grow vegetables in a greenhouse and can only say the difference in home grown and mass produced (in holland - generally hydroponically) and organically grown, is worlds apart.

I am no chemist so cannot dispute your claim that they do the same thing on a molecular level. All chemicals have half lifes however, are you 100% synthesised chemicals have the same half lifes? This I don't know.

Having done hydro many years ago with a straight forward nft system, and also smoking most of the weed at that time grown hydroponically, I feel the depth of flavours in organic is just more suited to what I like to smoke. It's really simple as that.

As far as running an organic system, I def wouldn't want to start adding synthesised nutrients to my set up when I run a living soil based medium. Again, just like you wouldn't throw some organic nutes into your hydro system as they can be unsutiable for the medium.


It's probably more of a lifestyle choice than anything, just like trying to buy better quality food produce I guess. I prefer to smoke my organically grown weed, and have smelled loads of stuff created for the shops of the same strains that have no where near the same depth of flavour, taste, smell, and in most cases the effect.

do you have a good reason why?? just curious....because they do the exact same thing....on a molecular structure. as to why they are called 'synthetics'

i only say this, cause i've worked in greenhouses growing fruits and veggies, and love organics too, but i myself have mixed up nutrients (synthetic) for strawberries, and seen amazing results that tasted sooo nice, and it really made me wonder...

you obviously have some hardcore experience behind you, so maybe you can shine the light in this topic, i'm interested on your view

 

[flowamasta]

Well I also grow vegetables in a greenhouse and can only say the difference in home grown and mass produced (in holland - generally hydroponically) and organically grown, is worlds apart.

I am no chemist so cannot dispute your claim that they do the same thing on a molecular level. All chemicals have half lifes however, are you 100% synthesised chemicals have the same half lifes? This I don't know.

Having done hydro many years ago with a straight forward nft system, and also smoking most of the weed at that time grown hydroponically, I feel the depth of flavours in organic is just more suited to what I like to smoke. It's really simple as that.

As far as running an organic system, I def wouldn't want to start adding synthesised nutrients to my set up when I run a living soil based medium. Again, just like you wouldn't throw some organic nutes into your hydro system as they can be unsutiable for the medium.


It's probably more of a lifestyle choice than anything, just like trying to buy better quality food produce I guess. I prefer to smoke my organically grown weed, and have smelled loads of stuff created for the shops of the same strains that have no where near the same depth of flavour, taste, smell, and in most cases the effect.

thanx for that in depth reply i would love to try a really really nice dank strain, something that all you guys are lucky enough to get hold of in a purely organic outdoor mix, they would be something i would totally be up for, i understand that organics is 'live' and would certainly contribute to taste in some way surely, would you agree that the taste can also be different based on the resins flavour to begin with, and the sugars and waxes that the plant produces? surely these would be affected both ways differently, i'm actully growing 6 small plants in my yard, 5 of which are flowering, they are all in organic mediums/perlite mixed in i will feed 3 with synthetics, and 2 without anything atall, just water, the other is almost ready, if u haven't seen it....do you think this could provide a good basis for comparison?

 

[afrawfraw]

Mineral VS Organics...One Afrawfraw's opinion...

Organic nutrients are nutrient forms found in nature which can be processed using natural means, I.e. Sunlight, drying, aging, Etc.

Mineral nutrients are the finished product when bacteria and other micro organisms break down the organic material into N,P,K, Etc.

Organic nutrients is like you eating a salad.

Mineral nutrients are like you taking a daily multivitamin.

Both contain nutrients, but 1 form needs to be digested, the other is ready to pass through your stomach lining.

Organic nutrients require processing by the microorganisms before they are available.

Mineral nutrients do not require action before they can pass through the rhizosphere of the root flesh and travel through the plant.

 

[afrawfraw]

For outdoor, Organics hands down!

For indoor, Minerals seem way cleaner and easier to control.

 

[geekmike]

producing N, P & K synthetically is not an easy process, it takes other chemicals to produce these. Like solvent extractors and chemical compounds that are high in these additives that are able to be extracted.

Have you ever seen a chemical fertilizer processing plant? Probably not, because they are crazy shit.

There is a reason most good farmers don't use chemical fertilizers in their crops.

 

[sixstring2112]

mornin sixers,some bubba 76 pre chop

 

[flowamasta]

so in other words mineral nutrients is like feeding directly like an iv tube in the hospital, and organics is like eating a sandwich....if you put it that way ?? i even rather my vitamins in pills than eating fruit or vegetables, but i'm an idiot.

 

[DST]

As far as the comparison things goes Flow, I guess it depends, if all the strains are the same then should be a good comparison.

And Sixstring, thanks for the Pr0n!!! Very nice looking.

Going for a 409 today, can't be arsed waiting the next 11 minutes....