Did Ron Paul Win Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri?

st0wandgrow

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Ron Paul. I like his foreign policy ideas, but he is just plain bat-shit crazy when it comes to domestic policy.

He doesn't stand a chance of becoming potus.
 

st0wandgrow

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Gingrich FTW!!

I've got a spot reserved on his moon colony.

I'll send you guys back some Lunar Haze on the first shuttle home!
 

budlover13

King Tut
The thought of the financial industry being deregulated even further gives me heart burn.
Yeah, that's one of the parts that makes me say "for the most part". Although, that doesn't mean i believe they should more tightly regulated either. i have very mixed emotions on the subject because there are a lot of people that could do much more good without as many regulations imo but there are also those that could do much more harm as well.
 

NLXSK1

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Yeah, that's one of the parts that makes me say "for the most part". Although, that doesn't mean i believe they should more tightly regulated either. i have very mixed emotions on the subject because there are a lot of people that could do much more good without as many regulations imo but there are also those that could do much more harm as well.
I think the banks should be completely deregulated. But that includes getting rid of the FED, getting rid of too big to fail and making them accountable for their investements, etc.

The only thing that should remain is the FDIC for savings accounts. If a bank wants to be a savings bank they would have to be part of that system.
 

redivider

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the financial sector needs to be brought back to the 1950s, when a bank was a bank with checking accounts and simple interest bearing savings accounts, an insurance company only issued insurance, long term savings accounts were handled by savings and loans institutions, and each of these was seperate and by law independent from each other...


we can't have insurance products bundled up with mortages bundled up with projected interest income bundled up with who knows what..... that's not how America did business for over 50 years and we were doing just fine....
 

budlover13

King Tut
I think the banks should be completely deregulated. But that includes getting rid of the FED, getting rid of too big to fail and making them accountable for their investements, etc.

The only thing that should remain is the FDIC for savings accounts. If a bank wants to be a savings bank they would have to be part of that system.
i can agree with that. FDIC is a must imo also. And i agree that if a bank makes poor lending decisions (of their own free will and not because the government tells them that they must) then they should held accountable. And of course i agree on ending the FED :)
 

st0wandgrow

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Yeah, that's one of the parts that makes me say "for the most part". Although, that doesn't mean i believe they should more tightly regulated either. i have very mixed emotions on the subject because there are a lot of people that could do much more good without as many regulations imo but there are also those that could do much more harm as well.
Both parties suck balls, so the idea of someone like Paul in office is intriguing. I just think he takes it a bit far with the whole gold standard thing, and complete deregulation.

I kind of like the idea of the food I eat being inspected, and the air I breath and water I drink being (somewhat) free of contaminants.
 

redivider

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Both parties suck balls, so the idea of someone like Paul in office is intriguing. I just think he takes it a bit far with the whole gold standard thing, and complete deregulation.

I kind of like the idea of the food I eat being inspected, and the air I breath and water I drink being (somewhat) free of contaminants.
somewhat? pre EPA:

"Rivers catching fire was not that rare an occurrence in the United States in the 20th century. (Chicago River, IL (1899), Passaic River, NY (1918), Buffalo River, NY (1968))."

that's right. RIVERS WOULD BURN because of the shit in them....

Burning-River.jpg
 

budlover13

King Tut
Both parties suck balls, so the idea of someone like Paul in office is intriguing. I just think he takes it a bit far with the whole gold standard thing, and complete deregulation.

I kind of like the idea of the food I eat being inspected, and the air I breath and water I drink being (somewhat) free of contaminants.
i like the gold standard wholeheartedly although i doubt that we could maintain it with what little gold we have left lol. Maybe a silver standard?

As for the food being inspected, i'd prefer to be able to buy local from those i know and trust. The idea behind the EPA is valid imo but the waste and over-stepping of their powers are more than i can stand.
 

redivider

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i like the gold standard wholeheartedly although i doubt that we could maintain it with what little gold we have left lol. Maybe a silver standard?

As for the food being inspected, i'd prefer to be able to buy local from those i know and trust. The idea behind the EPA is valid imo but the waste and over-stepping of their powers are more than i can stand.
over-stepping of their powers? care to explain? sounds like conservative soundbites with zero substance to back it up.....
 

budlover13

King Tut
over-stepping of their powers? care to explain? sounds like conservative soundbites with zero substance to back it up.....
Lead paint removal fines and requirements for one. i have a buddy who owns a very small rental company and he and his son just had to go through mandated classes on lead paint removal. Not only did they have to go through the classes but also had to pay for them. OR, be subject to $32,500 fine per incident per day. Ridiculous imo.
 

redivider

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how's that an overstepping of their powers?? lead is a known carcinogen and whenever there is a risk of lead being aspirated Hazmat precautions are taken...

i don't think it's as ridiculous as tenants getting cancer from their living quarters which they are paying for....

why should a landowner be allowed to keep lead based paint on the walls after it's been recognized as poisonous?? so he can save a few dollars?? give me a break...

it's all about moderation... you can be principled but you don't have to be so principled it borders on lunacy.....
 

budlover13

King Tut
how's that an overstepping of their powers?? lead is a known carcinogen and whenever there is a risk of lead being aspirated Hazmat precautions are taken...

i don't think it's as ridiculous as tenants getting cancer from their living quarters which they are paying for....

why should a landowner be allowed to keep lead based paint on the walls after it's been recognized as poisonous?? so he can save a few dollars?? give me a break...

it's all about moderation... you can be principled but you don't have to be so principled it borders on lunacy.....
It wasn't about them leaving the paint on the walls. They bought a new rental house, tested the paint and it was lead-based so they decided to remove it and re-paint. But the EPA said they couldn't do that until they had taken a class that they got charged for. The requirement is if they worked with an area covering more that 1' square (which re-painting the entire house exceeded by far) then they had to take this class or be fined $32,500 per incident per day. They are intelligent men who learned nothing new about protectin themselves or the neighbors by taking the class but they each had to pay for the class and give up 8 hours to take it.
 
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