Well Priced Hash and Trim

Brimi

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I like THC in general.
I LOVE TLC!!!!

(i really don't - i just wrote that to make the impression that i was some blonde teenage girl finding herself lost on the internet - very lost. I really don't love TLC!!! - i do love THC too ;O)
 

dbkick

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I LOVE TLC!!!!

(i really don't - i just wrote that to make the impression that i was some blonde teenage girl finding herself lost on the internet - very lost. I really don't love TLC!!! - i do love THC too ;O)
youse starting to make me nervous for some reason :\
 

eyecandi

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That sounds like a lot of keif. Sounds like too much? - surely that keif can't be purely trichomes??? - if so that extraction method must almost CREATE more trichome:roll: ;O)
But if the case is that you get too much plant material some other screens might separate the trichomes? - never tried it - just an idea. I prefer BHO right now, but would love to try to make some hash some time - just always end up making budder - it's my candy ;O)
when we first tried it, we used several batches to test a 30sec, 45sec, 1min, 1.5min, 2min, 2.5min, 3min and 5 min shake, to see how much plant matter was making it into the mix, and where the maximum rate of blonde vs greenish tinged keif worked best. we use only the 220 micron bag for the initial run and sub-seperate from there if needed (but rarely need to, most clients are WAY happy with the end results). 1st run is @ 1min - 1.5min max, this keeps it more pure and accounts for @ 25% of the end product. 2nd run is @ 3-5minutes and yes, it does have some plant material in it, but you need to get with a micron scope to see the particles, and when you do, the visual created at looking at a plate full of broken trichs with some green mixed in is awesome, and the ammount is decievingly small looking through the scope at the actual end product.

however, keep in mind that bubble/water hash has even more + additional chlorophyl (and other possible chemicals if not pre-washed) that was absorbed by the water. BHO is great (and ChefC makes the best I've EVER had, hands down) but requieres a lot of time and energy to make, plus there is the safety hazard. If you are making budder as the end product anyways, avoid the high costs and hassle of the BHO method.
 

Brimi

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however, keep in mind that bubble/water hash has even more + additional chlorophyl (and other possible chemicals if not pre-washed) that was absorbed by the water. BHO is great (and ChefC makes the best I've EVER had, hands down) but requieres a lot of time and energy to make, plus there is the safety hazard. If you are making budder as the end product anyways, avoid the high costs and hassle of the BHO method.
I'm not sure i get what you mean. Sounds like you might think i'm talking about the dairy butter - i'm drying and whipping the oil into budder - just to make it more handy.
Pretty good results on that hash. Sounds like worth trying - but around here dry ice is not that available - it's just cold enough here so people get heaters to put into the coolers to prevent beer from freezing ;O) I'll definitely try this once i find dry ice. I do love the smell of great hash. (but BHO from my Jack DOES smell like a whole field of summer flowers... and that tangy THC smell - love it) ;O)
 

eyecandi

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gotcha, I was thinking you meant dairy budder. dry ice can usually be found at walmart or a standard grocery store these days, usually in one of those mini-freezers up front. luckily I've got a dry-ice production facility near me. the other reason this method is golden for me, is that the State requires an Infused Products license to process water hash or BHO (lab setup required that meets state standards as well). with dry ice, there is technically no 'processing' involved, only seperation of the whole trichs from the plant matterial.

LOL @ the heater/cooler ;)
 

dbkick

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Hang it up for a few hours??? What are you talking about. And how is it getting barely to 60%???
I just had 2 Oz, put it through a 150 micron. 12g came out. Let's say that's 25% of everything since 14g would be 25% of 2 Oz. If this bud is 15% then the hash is 50-60ish percent.
I'll have a 25 micron bag, a 110 micron bag, and a 220 micron bag (The 150 is a different brand and size) and I'll be using them all at the same time. The stuff that comes out of the 25 Micron should be around 90-99% after that filtration. And even using it alone I would say it would probably come out to around 80-90%
a 25 micron bag will drain VERY slowly , I think you're confusing percentage of amounts and not actually thc content of the yield, not one of those bags can possibly contain 90 percent thc.unless that is you're using some weed that the vegetation can't be broken down into a piece small enough to slip thru the bag, and just because you are using a finer bag doesn't mean much either, trichome size isn't all that consistent .
 

Finshaggy

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I'm not sure i get what you mean. Sounds like you might think i'm talking about the dairy butter - i'm drying and whipping the oil into budder - just to make it more handy.
Pretty good results on that hash. Sounds like worth trying - but around here dry ice is not that available - it's just cold enough here so people get heaters to put into the coolers to prevent beer from freezing ;O) I'll definitely try this once i find dry ice. I do love the smell of great hash. (but BHO from my Jack DOES smell like a whole field of summer flowers... and that tangy THC smell - love it) ;O)

Your local butcher gets stuff shipped in dry ice, talk to him.
 

Finshaggy

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a 25 micron bag will drain VERY slowly , I think you're confusing percentage of amounts and not actually thc content of the yield, not one of those bags can possibly contain 90 percent thc.unless that is you're using some weed that the vegetation can't be broken down into a piece small enough to slip thru the bag, and just because you are using a finer bag doesn't mean much either, trichome size isn't all that consistent .
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But trichombes break down smaller, and break down easier. Hence why the bag EVEN WORKS. Smaller micron will make more pure material...

And I'm not confusing yield for content. READ AGAIN, and I CLEARLY stated my yield. And if I got 50% fro a 150 Micron, I'm sure 25 Micron will be AT LEAST 80%.
 

dbkick

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But trichombes break down smaller, and break down easier. Hence why the bag EVEN WORKS. Smaller micron will make more pure material...

And I'm not confusing yield for content. READ AGAIN, and I CLEARLY stated my yield. And if I got 50% fro a 150 Micron, I'm sure 25 Micron will be AT LEAST 80%.
I just assume you had that tested, since thats the only way to tell percentage of thc.
 

Finshaggy

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I just assume you had that tested, since thats the only way to tell percentage of thc.
That would be the only way TO TELL. But not the only way to ESTIMATE as I did. And even you said it would be fifty, so What the fuck are you trying to say now?
 

dbkick

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I'm saying you can't get 80+ percent or even 75 out of simple bubble bag hash.The dispensary I shop at hit 60 percent (tested) and were happy with that.
 

Finshaggy

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I'm saying you can't get 80+ percent or even 75 out of simple bubble bag hash.The dispensary I shop at hit 60 percent (tested) and were happy with that.

I'm going to be putting all my screens together though.
Like use them ALL AT ONCE. There will be 3 layers of quality.
1 The mirror: Best quality. Will have gone through a 220, 90, and 25. To come out probably around 80-90%, but very very little amounts.
2 The 25 bag: Everything that made it through the 90, and 220 will be here, so there will be WAY less plant material in here than when I used only a 150.
3 The 90 bag: This will be the first layer. Probably full as shit of plant material. Since it will be anything that fits through a 220.

There's no way I won't get above 60%. Such small amounts are going to be coming out of the third bag.
 

eyecandi

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I think you are confusing/mixing trichome size relationships with actual THC content. trichome size can dictate quality and type of high: eg: 25 micron hash will be way cleaner then 220 micron (eg: little-no contamination of micron size veg matter). 25 micron will generally bubble and burn clean, 220 will not bubble (well) and will leave a slight residue. but neither is an indication of actual THC/CBD/CBN content. a gas chromotography test is needed for that. and with FullSpectrum shutting down, companies that test are fewer ...
 

Finshaggy

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I think you are confusing/mixing trichome size relationships with actual THC content. trichome size can dictate quality and type of high: eg: 25 micron hash will be way cleaner then 220 micron (eg: little-no contamination of micron size veg matter). 25 micron will generally bubble and burn clean, 220 will not bubble (well) and will leave a slight residue. but neither is an indication of actual THC/CBD/CBN content. a gas chromotography test is needed for that. and with FullSpectrum shutting down, companies that test are fewer ...
I know that shit. And I'm not confusing it. If I have ten grams of bud. And it's 10% THC(and I estimated between 10-15%), and I get a Gram, not matter how I extract it. Then I know that gram is pretty damn near 100%. The CO2 is turning liquid, and literally PULLING the THC out, with trichs, and some hairs and other plant material. But going through 3 screens will solve that issue.
 

dbkick

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you don't happen to run a shady dispensary down on sheridan do you? the dude that ran that place was like "all hash is 100 percent if you know how to do it!" haha, that dude made me laugh.
 

eyecandi

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sorry bro, you got it wrong. you are making it sound like THC is in the bud, it isn't. 15% is still 15%. using solvents (CO2, butane, napthelene, alcohol, etc) to dissolve the oils, and then boiling them down is what creates high THC %. straight trichs are ALWAYS going to be what they are, no more (unless you decarboxilize them) .... you can change the chemistry a little (THC degrades to other sub compounds), but it will NEVER be more then a few % points in change (and that being relative to the initial % amount, not based on the initial 100 point scale.).

you have enthusiasm, but I have 20+ years of experience in this field. i don't always have it right, and I'm always learning and researching. there are tons of books and sites on the subjects, dive in, it's a lot of fun, truly. the best thing I love about this day and age is the access to information and seeing what others have done trial/error, true research and science.


edit: geezus ... just noticed your post count .... over 2400 in UNDER 3 months .... that is some enthusiasm for sure ....
 
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