Historic Negativity Towards US Gov.

The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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hazyintentions said:
It was war when you brought that out. You knew that would invite the horde of zombies. Lmao, I'm stoned.....


Anyways,



You know I don't have anything to say to that other than I feel sorry for you because you can not reach the level of understanding, commitment, dedication and heart felt by people who support the ideas of liberty, freedom and peace among countries. It's a mindset that I do not believe you can grasp, no disrespect there. :D

It just gets aggravating when people come across like you do towards a group of supporters who now compose of anywhere from 8.9% up to 12% of likely/registered voters. That is a pretty large group at this point in the game.

I do not believe you realize how deep I back up and dream of the thought of a government that didn't over regulate, overtax, and overtake the United States of America; I would rather have a government didn't invade other countries for meaningless and ever changing reasons with out constitutional approval. A country where ever step of the manufacturing process is done here. I mean I could go on but it's pointless.


Moving on.




^ I mean, really? This is really the point you want to make in a conversation?
Ok, well said..

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I am blessed to not have your mindset, as well-intentioned as it may be, it lacks real scrutiny, honesty, and purity. It is wholly naive and incomplete, and thus easily manipulated.

I understand (way more than anyone would give me credit for) the dissatisfaction with "the way things are" versus "the way things should be." But reality is not a question of right/wrong, it just is. You are addressing someone that began reading Chomsky and Zinn while not even being old enough to drive (I am 28 now). So many of you are pure idealists, and it will get you no further along the road of acceptance and understanding. You can keep raging against the govt, Obama, whatever else, but none of this will change realities. My generation lacks the capability to understand reality, much less change it. And, realizing this many years ago, I was distraught. I had my epiphany not too long ago, and it required me to put everything I believed in to the test...what I found out as a result changed me forever. When you begin to broaden you horizons, shifting myopic focus towards other entities, the world will change before your very eyes.

So, think what you want...that's your right. It's your right to be completely wrong.
 
Jack Fate

Jack Fate

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The Ruiner said:
I am blessed to not have your mindset, as well-intentioned as it may be, it lacks real scrutiny, honesty, and purity. It is wholly naive and incomplete, and thus easily manipulated.

I understand (way more than anyone would give me credit for) the dissatisfaction with "the way things are" versus "the way things should be." But reality is not a question of right/wrong, it just is. You are addressing someone that began reading Chomsky and Zinn while not even being old enough to drive (I am 28 now). So many of you are pure idealists, and it will get you no further along the road of acceptance and understanding. You can keep raging against the govt, Obama, whatever else, but none of this will change realities. My generation lacks the capability to understand reality, much less change it. And, realizing this many years ago, I was distraught. I had my epiphany not too long ago, and it required me to put everything I believed in to the test...what I found out as a result changed me forever. When you begin to broaden you horizons, shifting myopic focus towards other entities, the world will change before your very eyes.

So, think what you want...that's your right. It's your right to be completely wrong.
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Heavy, Dude.
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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dukeanthony said:
NO WE DID THAT UP UNTIL THE 60's



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We already allow it; your not being logical, the point is any business can refuse business to anyone they want, segregate by color, even if that was the intent, with the right already here to refuse business to anyone they wish, then they can have the intent to not serve color or lack of, and there isnt any thing anyone can do. Further more in your logic if we allowed people to be openly oppressive (which wont happen because its unconstitutional and should have never been there to begin with if we had followed are founding documents and founding fathers words) that we would all of a sudden turn into 1960? are you that illogical?
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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tryingtogrow89 said:
unconstitutional and should have never been there to begin with if we had followed are founding documents and founding fathers words) that we would all of a sudden turn into 1960? are you that illogical?
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The Founding Fathers allowed for slavery and states to pass laws that discriminate
Yeah i believe a Lot of businesses landlords and employers will openly become Discriminatory
And if you dont, You are naive and a fool
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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dukeanthony said:
The Founding Fathers allowed for slavery and states to pass laws that discriminate
Yeah i believe a Lot of businesses landlords and employers will openly become Discriminatory
And if you dont, You are naive and a fool
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i do not know where you get your education saying the founding fathers allowed slavery, they didnt believe in slavery.
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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George Washington owned more than 200 slaves
Thomas Jefferson owned more than 100 slaves
James Madison owned and sold slaves all his life
James Monroe owned 30-40 slaves
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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dukeanthony said:
George Washington owned more than 200 slaves
Thomas Jefferson owned more than 100 slaves
James Madison owned and sold slaves all his life
James Monroe owned 30-40 slaves
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i am not quite sure where the hell you get your scary education but dont force it on me, its your own damn retardation not mine.
 
hazyintentions

hazyintentions

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The Ruiner said:
I am blessed to not have your mindset, as well-intentioned as it may be, it lacks real scrutiny, honesty, and purity. It is wholly naive and incomplete, and thus easily manipulated.

I understand (way more than anyone would give me credit for) the dissatisfaction with "the way things are" versus "the way things should be." But reality is not a question of right/wrong, it just is. You are addressing someone that began reading Chomsky and Zinn while not even being old enough to drive (I am 28 now). So many of you are pure idealists, and it will get you no further along the road of acceptance and understanding. You can keep raging against the govt, Obama, whatever else, but none of this will change realities. My generation lacks the capability to understand reality, much less change it. And, realizing this many years ago, I was distraught. I had my epiphany not too long ago, and it required me to put everything I believed in to the test...what I found out as a result changed me forever. When you begin to broaden you horizons, shifting myopic focus towards other entities, the world will change before your very eyes.

So, think what you want...that's your right. It's your right to be completely wrong.
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Thank you for being forward with me. I am slowly developing a profound respect for you but when you post childish stuff I call it questionable, that is my concern.

With that said you talk to me in a condescending tone and I don't not appreciate it, I will give you all due respect that you give me. Now I've stated that so I am clear.

Look bud, you are obviously thinking and thinking hard, I admire that, I don't believe I will always have this exact same mindset, I will always choose integrity over popularity but I know I will alter my belief system as I get more into life and explore it's traverse of realities. What I can't stress enough is that I do not believe Obama's economic or foreign plans will work even if he didn't have the troubles of a stalled congress in a constant stalemate.

I believe the America needs to base it's economy on manufacturing and providing real tangible goods and stop allowing the 1% to dictate what happens to 99% of the money. I believe in an America that stands for liberty and humanitarian values which weighs it's decisions towards other countries with scrutiny and stops letting corporate CEO's and any company that has something to gain off of America at war. Whether it's through providing goods and services to war efforts or the re-allocation of resources, there is money to be made by someone. It's wrong to have these driving our military presence throughout the world.

Did that come out clearly?

I want America to focus on it's infrastructure, bring manufacturing back here, and to show the rest of the world that we as Americans can still compete and advance the technology of the world for the hope of a greater future. I'm talking about EVs, revamping the national highway system, revamping the power grids of the US, investing in solar, wind, and nuclear energy and advancing our technology, we should be in the forefront of new technology!
 
hazyintentions

hazyintentions

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UncleBuck said:
confirm what, that the founding fathers owned slaves?

historical fact, ya know.

damn those facts and history! :cuss:
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Is that really what this conversation has turned into?

UB have everyone here not been to this exact same place before? Bickering and calling each other clueless. It accomplishes nothing if I may be so bold to say so.
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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dukeanthony said:
i AM SORRY
YOU ARE JUST TOO STUPID TO BE A MODERATOR
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Lets be adults and not caps lock what we have to say, a part of being a meber on RIU is being minimum age of 18, the last time i seen someone type like that i was in 5th grade, you're not 9 are you?
come back in 9 years, have a nice day.
Oh and no need to apologize; your foolery is automatically forgiven.
 
dukeanthony

dukeanthony

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hazyintentions said:
I believe the America needs to base it's economy on manufacturing and providing real tangible goods and stop allowing the 1% to dictate what happens to 99% of the money.
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And Yet you support Ron Paul who will Never Put any checks or balances on the 1% that has the wealth
 
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