I don't care for the current plutocracy masquerading as democracy but i'm not sure a return to a republican democracy is the "best" way to go either since that is what got us to the point we are currently in.
One problem is no checks and balances on the "free" press. The main issue is (and throughout history -see Greece/Rome- has been) our population has gotten too large to achieve any decent amount of consensus and far too many morons are allowed to vote.
The founding fathers mulled over the idea of granting voting rights to ONLY property owners. Liberals will tell you they just wanted to keep the little guy down, but there was a great deal of wisdom in this idea. They knew that if everyone, including those that didn't own property, had the right to vote, it would only be a matter of time before the people without property would vote to take the property of those who had it. 16th Amendment? Modern Liberalism? Those founders sure were smart!
yes they were which is why i try to figure out a way to make their ideas work - but some folks don't make that easy! When I ponder that time in history it seems odd that all those bright folks were gathered in one area at the same time... wow!The founding fathers mulled over the idea of granting voting rights to ONLY property owners. Liberals will tell you they just wanted to keep the little guy down, but there was a great deal of wisdom in this idea. They knew that if everyone, including those that didn't own property, had the right to vote, it would only be a matter of time before the people without property would vote to take the property of those who had it. 16th Amendment? Modern Liberalism? Those founders sure were smart!
wow. sounds to me like it IS another way to keep certain people from voting. liberal or not.The founding fathers mulled over the idea of granting voting rights to ONLY property owners. Liberals will tell you they just wanted to keep the little guy down, but there was a great deal of wisdom in this idea. They knew that if everyone, including those that didn't own property, had the right to vote, it would only be a matter of time before the people without property would vote to take the property of those who had it. 16th Amendment? Modern Liberalism? Those founders sure were smart!
As far as the vote goes, it will be rigged in '08' just like it was in '00' and '04'. The PTB and the republicans are hard at it already,Trying to disenfranchise any and all blacks and poor people. I'm pretty sure if you left it to property owners only to vote, it would be a repuke majority all the time. Maybe those non-owning individuals are not prosperous but their vote should count as much as J.Paul Getty's. There's a wonderful accounting of voter fraud and disenfranchisement on LINK TV, Check it out. LINKTV.org.
Well, who made you the declarer?
I attended a 3-week internet class and got my online declarer degree.
hey! i have one of those now what do we do? perhaps we could work in shifts?
Hey LB - no doubt the slaves had it shitty no arguing that (losing argument anyway) but it wasn't like every black was a slave. Hell - there were plenty of slave-owning blacks! Blacks served (along side whites) in the Revolutionary War as well as the French and Indian Wars. In fact, one of the folks who was killed at the Boston massacre was black. So you could build an argument that a black was one of the first (if not the first) person killed at the start of the war for independence. I think too often we think every black was treated as a second class citizen and every white was a wealthy slave holding land owner and that just wasn't the case.
