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WillyBagseed
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But what is wrong with Wall Street Banksters taking a cut off the top of SS? Surely they will do the right thing in a free market... you know, like they did with sub-prime mortgages etc...
republicans have decided that hosting the president so he can address a joint session of congress on job creation.
for republicans, their debate is more important.
this is an incredible lack of respect for the office of the president and republicans have shown what their priorities really are.
jobs jobs jobs??? they mentioned jobs so much during campaign season but when the president wants to show up for a jobs speech they shut him out.... WOW....
for republicans, their debate is more important.
this is an incredible lack of respect for the office of the president and republicans have shown what their priorities really are.
jobs jobs jobs??? they mentioned jobs so much during campaign season but when the president wants to show up for a jobs speech they shut him out.... WOW....
What would they be taking over? A bunch of I.O.U's? There is no "FUND" there is just a scheme which will soon come to its inevitable conclusion no matter who is in charge.
I agree, it is very crass and dishonorable to purposely schedule a conflict.
the date was selected b/c it is right when lawmakers get back from vacation. incredible. let's support a combative legislature which shuts out the elected leader of the country when he wants to present a jobs package during the worst employment crisis in almost 100 years.
all on political lines. all on some misguided dedication to some theory....
all on political lines. all on some misguided dedication to some theory....
UncleBuck
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-gop-strategy-involves-reelecting-obama-making,21113/
New GOP Strategy Involves Reelecting Obama, Making His Life Even More Miserable
AUGUST 10, 2011 | ISSUE 47•32
GOP leaders say "messing with the president's head" must be their one and only priority in 2012 and beyond.
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WASHINGTON—Calling a GOP victory in the 2012 presidential election antithetical to the party platform, top Republicans revealed a new long-term political strategy Tuesday: reelecting Barack Obama and making his life even more of a living hell than it already is.
"For three years, the Republican Party has coalesced around the single goal of making President Obama's every waking moment sheer and utter torture," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters. "But we can't continue to do that if he's not in office."
"If we are going to make the president a haggard shell of a human being by the time he leaves the White House, we need four more years of never compromising, four more years of miring every piece of legislation in unnecessary procedural muck, four more years of pretending we want to work with the president and then walking away from the table at the last second," McConnell added. "Four more years! Four more years! Obama 2012!"
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According to GOP sources, the decision to cede the 2012 election to Obama came after rank-and-file Republicans agreed that grinding the president down to nothing and pushing him to the brink of insanity was far more in line with the Republican Party's core principles than actually controlling the White House, making laws, or governing the country.
Republican officials said that because they won't be burdened with a time consuming presidential campaign, they can start looking beyond the 2012 general election and begin developing a four-pronged attack designed to ruin the president emotionally, physically, personally, and professionally.
Moreover, giving the president a second term in office would reportedly allow GOP lawmakers to build on the mental distress they've already caused him.
"If you look at what we've accomplished as a party in the last four years—making President Obama lose his temper on multiple occasions and even causing him to storm out of a meeting in frustration—it doesn't make sense for us to throw all that away, not when we could do so much more," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said. "If by being impossible to work with we are able to make the president physically shake with frustration during every single meeting, give him the nervous tick of mumbling angrily under his breath, tarnish his entire legacy, and in the process completely destroy his faith in humanity, then we've succeeded as lawmakers."
"If you thought this debt ceiling thing was bad, wait till you see how unbearable we are when it comes time for the Bush tax cuts to expire," Cantor added. "We are going to pummel this man over and over and over until he regrets ever getting into politics."
In order to make the president's next four years the worst of his life, GOP legislators are reportedly working on a new "Destroy Every Fiber of Barack Obama's Being" initiative, a plan that includes benchmarks such as making Obama look 10 years older than he is just six months into his second term; ruining his marriage before the 2014 midterm elections; and, by the time he leaves office, making him break down in front of the entire nation and say the words "I give up. Just please stop."
"If Barack Obama doesn't go to bed fuming with deep primal rage every single night, then we haven't done our job," said House Speaker John Boehner, who later called the residual effect of getting to watch Obama's supporters become more and more disillusioned with their country as their president's posture deteriorates, his face becomes exceedingly gaunt, and his once booming voice turn shaky and unconfident "definitely a plus." "Mark my words: The Republican Party is committed to giving the American people a president who has a chronically bleeding gastric ulcer that makes it almost impossible for him to stand up."
"To be honest, I'm glad we're pulling out of this election, because I really don't know what we would focus on if we won," Boehner added. "Health care?"
While a major party forgoing a presidential campaign is considered unorthodox, Beltway insiders were not surprised by the Republican announcement, saying the GOP was simply playing to its strength.
"Making Barack Obama's life a waking nightmare is what we do best," Republican strategist Todd Harris said. "It's also just smart politics. After all, getting the man reelected and watching him wither away to nothing before our very eyes will fire up the base more than any of the current Republican presidential candidates will."
New GOP Strategy Involves Reelecting Obama, Making His Life Even More Miserable
AUGUST 10, 2011 | ISSUE 47•32
GOP leaders say "messing with the president's head" must be their one and only priority in 2012 and beyond.
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WASHINGTON—Calling a GOP victory in the 2012 presidential election antithetical to the party platform, top Republicans revealed a new long-term political strategy Tuesday: reelecting Barack Obama and making his life even more of a living hell than it already is.
"For three years, the Republican Party has coalesced around the single goal of making President Obama's every waking moment sheer and utter torture," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told reporters. "But we can't continue to do that if he's not in office."
"If we are going to make the president a haggard shell of a human being by the time he leaves the White House, we need four more years of never compromising, four more years of miring every piece of legislation in unnecessary procedural muck, four more years of pretending we want to work with the president and then walking away from the table at the last second," McConnell added. "Four more years! Four more years! Obama 2012!"
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According to GOP sources, the decision to cede the 2012 election to Obama came after rank-and-file Republicans agreed that grinding the president down to nothing and pushing him to the brink of insanity was far more in line with the Republican Party's core principles than actually controlling the White House, making laws, or governing the country.
Republican officials said that because they won't be burdened with a time consuming presidential campaign, they can start looking beyond the 2012 general election and begin developing a four-pronged attack designed to ruin the president emotionally, physically, personally, and professionally.
Moreover, giving the president a second term in office would reportedly allow GOP lawmakers to build on the mental distress they've already caused him.
"If you look at what we've accomplished as a party in the last four years—making President Obama lose his temper on multiple occasions and even causing him to storm out of a meeting in frustration—it doesn't make sense for us to throw all that away, not when we could do so much more," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said. "If by being impossible to work with we are able to make the president physically shake with frustration during every single meeting, give him the nervous tick of mumbling angrily under his breath, tarnish his entire legacy, and in the process completely destroy his faith in humanity, then we've succeeded as lawmakers."
"If you thought this debt ceiling thing was bad, wait till you see how unbearable we are when it comes time for the Bush tax cuts to expire," Cantor added. "We are going to pummel this man over and over and over until he regrets ever getting into politics."
In order to make the president's next four years the worst of his life, GOP legislators are reportedly working on a new "Destroy Every Fiber of Barack Obama's Being" initiative, a plan that includes benchmarks such as making Obama look 10 years older than he is just six months into his second term; ruining his marriage before the 2014 midterm elections; and, by the time he leaves office, making him break down in front of the entire nation and say the words "I give up. Just please stop."
"If Barack Obama doesn't go to bed fuming with deep primal rage every single night, then we haven't done our job," said House Speaker John Boehner, who later called the residual effect of getting to watch Obama's supporters become more and more disillusioned with their country as their president's posture deteriorates, his face becomes exceedingly gaunt, and his once booming voice turn shaky and unconfident "definitely a plus." "Mark my words: The Republican Party is committed to giving the American people a president who has a chronically bleeding gastric ulcer that makes it almost impossible for him to stand up."
"To be honest, I'm glad we're pulling out of this election, because I really don't know what we would focus on if we won," Boehner added. "Health care?"
While a major party forgoing a presidential campaign is considered unorthodox, Beltway insiders were not surprised by the Republican announcement, saying the GOP was simply playing to its strength.
"Making Barack Obama's life a waking nightmare is what we do best," Republican strategist Todd Harris said. "It's also just smart politics. After all, getting the man reelected and watching him wither away to nothing before our very eyes will fire up the base more than any of the current Republican presidential candidates will."
undertheice
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victory may be sweet, but making your opponent cry has its own rewards.
medicineman
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In a word, BULLSHIT! The less people have, the less they give. When they have none, they give none
MuyLocoNC
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MED IS BACK. I guess the surgery went well. Congrats.
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In the game of crazy poker, I'll see your bet of Palin and raise you two of this crazy bitch.
Mr Neutron
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Yup, let's see, the debate has been scheduled for how long? and all the president's men did not know that the repubs were having a debate that night? Oh, it was coinkinydink? Oh, OK, I believe THAT... uh huh. If he has surrounded himself with people that either don't know what night an opponents debate is held on OR they schedule his speech on the same night, intentionally, thinking they will draw away viewers... he is in MUCH bigger trouble than just the economy.
mame
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About that whole scheduling conflict... There are what, 20 more Republican debates before the election? And thursday is an NFL game isn't it(it's the regular season opener)? Republicans are calling foul on Obama for trying to upstage their debate, but isn't their suggestion that he speaks at the same time as an NFL game an attempt to minimize the amount of people watching his speech? Cmon guys, really?
edit: and it's Saints at Packers, btw...
edit edit: and a president has never been denied the date they wanted, either... just another example of today's house Republicans running on a platform of obstruction for political gain.
edit: and it's Saints at Packers, btw...
edit edit: and a president has never been denied the date they wanted, either... just another example of today's house Republicans running on a platform of obstruction for political gain.
Welcome back!!, most of us thought you took the big dirt nap!!
Mr Neutron
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I'd say, Obama appears to be more of an obstructionist on this issue. How long has this debate been scheduled? I don't know but would guess that has been scheduled for at least a month, most likely more.
Why doesn't he schedule it for Sunday at 1:00 PM?
mame
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How is he obstructing anything?
BTW he conceded and switched days so now his speech is competing with the NFL season opener for views - happy? I'm sure you are, as is Beohner, because the Republicans got their way - again.
edit: also, lets not forget that it is the Republicans of whom have cemeted this congress as one of the least productive and most obstructionist in history - not Obama. Are you choosing to ignore that fact or do you just not care that the reason nothing is getting done is because the Republicans would rather blame a bad economy on Obama than try and work with him for the good of the nation?
BTW he conceded and switched days so now his speech is competing with the NFL season opener for views - happy? I'm sure you are, as is Beohner, because the Republicans got their way - again.
edit: also, lets not forget that it is the Republicans of whom have cemeted this congress as one of the least productive and most obstructionist in history - not Obama. Are you choosing to ignore that fact or do you just not care that the reason nothing is getting done is because the Republicans would rather blame a bad economy on Obama than try and work with him for the good of the nation?
Mr Neutron
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He can still do it on Wed if he really wanted to, he doesn't have to make the speech in front of Congress. He could make it from the WH or anyplace else but the Capitol bldg. In fact, the more I think about it, he should have it on Wed, then we can see how many tune in to his speech or watch the debate.
Justin00
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i didn't read all 42 pages so this may have already been said but,
you can tax the rich or the poor it doesn't matter, the more you tax the rich the more they tax the poor. if the lower 50% of the pop only own 2% of the economy then the rest must own 98% so if you change the money they are making they just charge more for what they sell or do and the poor still pay for it. its cruel system but in the end no matter who you tax its paid by the middle class.
you can tax the rich or the poor it doesn't matter, the more you tax the rich the more they tax the poor. if the lower 50% of the pop only own 2% of the economy then the rest must own 98% so if you change the money they are making they just charge more for what they sell or do and the poor still pay for it. its cruel system but in the end no matter who you tax its paid by the middle class.
mame
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Not entirely true. Because of market forces, namely competition, a business cannot just always pass on it's taxes to customers via higher costs because another business willing to absorb the extra taxes for a competitive advantage will do so - mainly because PROFITS are what are taxed; It really depends on the industry and how competitive it is... Supermarkets are very competitive for example but a less competitive industry like phone services (it's basically just ATT vs. Verizon at this point already) is more likely to have costs passed on to the consumer with little to none of the checks and balances naturally found in a market economy.
MuyLocoNC
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OR it's because anyone with a shred of common sense sees that NOTHING he has done and nothing he is proposing will do anything other than worsen the problem. You may not agree, but you're seriously asking the Republicans to allow this douchebag to wreak further havoc and commit economic suicide, for the sole benefit that the nutcase libs won't call them obstructionists?
The Republicans aren't fighting 1/10th as hard as the conservatives want them to, against the progressive scumbags that just keep flinging trillions of dollars around like monkeys flinging shit at the zoo.
yeah, they just have a filibuster threat on EVERY piece of legislation that makes it to the senate. not only that but they refused to invite the president in for a joint session, something that has never happened before. or how the guy shouted 'you lie' during the address, or how they're fighting tooth and nail to keep current unsustainable tax cuts which are ballooning our deficit... they're fighting hard to kill this economy b/c they know that statistically when the economy is doing bad the party in the presidency tends to lose.
they aren't fighting hard at all....
even the health reform act had budget restructuring nonsense included so it could pass through reconciliation b/c republicans, who were the ones championing individually mandated health care reform for around 20 years, didn't want to give Obama a clean victory.
they aren't fighting hard at all....
even the health reform act had budget restructuring nonsense included so it could pass through reconciliation b/c republicans, who were the ones championing individually mandated health care reform for around 20 years, didn't want to give Obama a clean victory.