Prove to you There's a God?
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Luger187
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it blows my mind that people really believe stuff like this lol
Luger187
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sen c, where did you find your evidence of adam and eve? is it just because it says in the bible that you believe they existed and they were the first humans? im curious if there is other evidence for this, since ive never seen any. just trying to find out where you got your facts
ChadButler
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Main Entry: 1sin
Pronunciation: \ˈsin\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sinne, from Old English synn; akin to Old High German sunta sin and probably to Latin sont-, sons guilty, est is more at is
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an offense against religious or moral law b : an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible <it's a sin to waste food> c : an often serious shortcoming : fault
2 a : transgression of the law of God b : a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God
Your turn. Explain the pyramids. Not a religious matter, but it certainly baffles science.
Pronunciation: \ˈsin\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sinne, from Old English synn; akin to Old High German sunta sin and probably to Latin sont-, sons guilty, est is more at is
Date: before 12th century
1 a : an offense against religious or moral law b : an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible <it's a sin to waste food> c : an often serious shortcoming : fault
2 a : transgression of the law of God b : a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God
Your turn. Explain the pyramids. Not a religious matter, but it certainly baffles science.
i'm not done yet, hang on.
"who determines what is a sin?"
if you throw away rotten bananas, is that a sin?
sen.c
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So you think I am an idiot for believeing what I believe, and I think you are for what you believe. I guess that pretty much sums it up. We will only find out in death what the answers are I just happen to believe what I believe and you believe what you do. I have told you about my beliefs and shared info with you all and you have chosen to laugh it off and I have done the same with your info. If I am right you have a lot to lose and if your right I have nothing to lose so that pretty much is where we are, no need to go any further really.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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you have everything to lose , if i was you id practice all religions , at least then if religion turns out to be true <smirks> you will have done everything you can do to please each and every one of the thousands of gods the human mind has created .
if yout gonna waste your life worshipping a god then id edge my bets and worship all gods ,
you are lowering your odds hugely if you only pick one of them to follow and obey .
Hepheastus420
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Exactly. So then everyone let's leave messages on this thread asking to delete it and maybe the mods will see it and then we can get back to having peace.
Hepheastus420
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That quote actually made me lose respect for Gandhi, how can he just group every Christian together and say they are the same? Not all Christians are hypocrites some actually do try there hardest to be like christ. Ehh ghandi sucks.
Luger187
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the old pascals wager. huh? nice...
yes i think its dumb to whole heartedly believe something you have no evidence for. you see it as fact when you have no reason to. to say i cant poke and prod at your beliefs is laughable. i have every right to do that because you spread lies as if they are fact. religion should be questioned. that is what i am doing.
ive seen you in other threads yelling about how they didnt have enough evidence for this or that to claim X. one was about an old fish that i believe started with an A. dont remember what it was.
how come science requires evidence but religion doesnt? should we just believe these holy books simply because they exist? thats CRAZY
so... where is this evidence for adam and eve?
Luger187
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id like to ask you too. does science require evidence but not religion? do they both require evidence? if not, why? what makes these holy books impossible to touch with science?
if you really believe it happened, shouldnt you be wanting people studying it and finding the evidence to prove you are right? not wanting them to study it sure looks like you dont really believe and want them to stay away so they dont prove you wrong. if thats not why, what is the reason?
hands down the best picture everWhy don't you stop replying. The op called out atheists. Here I am.
Atheists believe in what we can see and touch. Christians believe in talking snakes, and bearded men in the sky, and fantasies of angels and afterlives in heaven. Who's ignorant?
Hepheastus420
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Hey I don't want no trouble, Jk. Nah I don't believe science requires evidence as long as it teaches you something it's all good.
And I have stated before that I don't care how much science proves they really can't prove god wrong. But I do respect science I would probably be dead of some disease if it wasn't for science. But to each there own.
El Superbeasto
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I think if anything is to believed as truth, it needs evidence to back it up.
sen.c
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Luger187,
You are really funny, but here is the fact of the two:
The Bible and it's teachings in it's simplest form asks us to believe based on faith. (Part of that is for the simple fact that we were not present at the time Jesus walked the Earth.)
The part of Science I have the problem with is that they ask you to take as fact things such as the fish you say I was hollaring about. By the way it was a valid point I made but if you want to buy
off on it as fact than go ahead, I have some ocean front property on the moon I will be glad to sell you as well.
Circular thinking at it's finest.
You are really funny, but here is the fact of the two:
The Bible and it's teachings in it's simplest form asks us to believe based on faith. (Part of that is for the simple fact that we were not present at the time Jesus walked the Earth.)
The part of Science I have the problem with is that they ask you to take as fact things such as the fish you say I was hollaring about. By the way it was a valid point I made but if you want to buy
off on it as fact than go ahead, I have some ocean front property on the moon I will be glad to sell you as well.
Circular thinking at it's finest.
Heisenberg
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So the bible asked you to be satisfied with not knowing. In this context Faith is an appeal to ignorance. Faith is saying lets ignore what we don't understand or have proof for, and believe anyway.
You showed no evidence of circular thinking, nor of adam and eve. You seem to think it's okay for the bible to appeal to faith when facts aren't available, yet it seems you criticize science for asking you to believe something, even though they provide proof. I understand that this proof does not meet your personal requirments, but why do you have a different set of standards when it comes to religion? Your requirements there seem to be nothing more than the bible asking you to believe.
Luger187
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how can science work without evidence? there is no way to prove something without verifiable evidence.
so because the very same book that tells you the stories about god, also tells you that you should believe in it, that means you should believe it? for what reason should we believe in the bible? faith alone just tells us you believe it without question
if i had faith that your moon property was real, wouldnt you think i was crazy? if i just took you at your word without anything to back up your claims, wouldnt that mean im not doing my job by not verifying the facts before i believe you?
how are you able to make valid claims about lack of evidence about that fish, but not about your own holy book? if its something that affects your life that much, shouldnt you at least look into it?
RawBudzski
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Faith in God is like Trust in a Relationship, it's nice.. gives you a peace of mind.. you happily spend your money.. then WHAM! !! You're screwed 50 years old mid-life crisis wondering why you did not actually think things through & plan better.
sen.c
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Exactly, that's it in a nut shell. With that being said there are other areas of science that I enjoy, like Metallurgy, Botany, Medicine, and many others. I just have always had a problem
with science in the sense that they can and will deem someone a failure if they choose not to believe certian things (not all) that lack someones personal requirements they may want to
see before they except it as fact. This very issue causes issues in learning, someone can be brilliant in the field of science but because they believe something that goes against the
hierarchy they are automatically deemed a nut or a failure when in actuality they are many times just as smart and are still shut down in the name of control of the system.
I choose to read the Bible and trust by faith in God's word and it is a personal decision that is all. It is no different than you choosing to believe in what you believe in but I am not bashing you
for how you believe. Just as you stated some things in science do not meet my personal requirements for evidence that I feel is important to address.
Budski,
No not really, it's called life and we all have to live it. Every decision we make will affect us at some point in our life, some may hit you right away and others may get you 20 years later but they all have consequences good and bad.