Club 600

olylifter420

olylifter420

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hey thanks guys to all that replied to my post... i have been contemplating in doing an upgrade to my situation... im currently running 4x 26w cfls, LOL,, i know, i know guys, that is pathetic, but thats what i could afford at the time... im only using it for the extra 4 hours to reach the goal of 18 hrs light... im getting 14 hrs of sunlight, so i only supplement with the cfls,

but i just the amazing plants that you all grow under those 600's and im super jealous!!!! i want trees like that!!!! i can want to get this light system,

http://www.amazon.com/400w-Ballast-Cool-Light-System/dp/B004NQTWB0/ref=sr_1_64?s=garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1310068770&sr=1-64

if that aint too good, can you recommend a good brand?
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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jigfresh said:
I think you may only get one answer in this thread. Yes. About the 400... if you are getting a 400, I say get a 600. If you are thinking of a 1000, I say get 2 - 600's. And that's coming from a guy with a 1000w.
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haha I was thinking the same thing about the answer lol
I also run some 1ks and think 2 600ds will always do better than a 1k even though its only 200 extra watts,,, I think you got the right idea hehe



And olylifter, Id say it depends on your sq footage and if heat is an unfixable issue for yah.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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I just want to grow maybe 2 plants at a time only... nothing way to big as in number of plants... so do you think a 600 is necessary?

thanks




whodatnation said:
haha I was thinking the same thing about the answer lol
I also run some 1ks and think 2 600ds will always do better than a 1k even though its only 200 extra watts,,, I think you got the right idea hehe



And olylifter, Id say it depends on your sq footage and if heat is an unfixable issue for yah.
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whodatnation

whodatnation

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olylifter420 said:
hey thanks guys to all that replied to my post... i have been contemplating in doing an upgrade to my situation... im currently running 4x 26w cfls, LOL,, i know, i know guys, that is pathetic, but thats what i could afford at the time... im only using it for the extra 4 hours to reach the goal of 18 hrs light... im getting 14 hrs of sunlight, so i only supplement with the cfls,

but i just the amazing plants that you all grow under those 600's and im super jealous!!!! i want trees like that!!!! i can want to get this light system,

http://www.amazon.com/400w-Ballast-Cool-Light-System/dp/B004NQTWB0/ref=sr_1_64?s=garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1310068770&sr=1-64

if that aint too good, can you recommend a good brand?
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Id say it depends on the area you have to work with.
And nothing is pathetic as long as your trying bro,, I started out growing under a black light lol then got a cfl... then saved for a 600 and well you get the trend ;-)
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Thing about the difference between a 400w and a 600w...400w averages 45,000 initial lumens, 600w average 90,000 lumens...so for only 1/2 more power you're getting 2x the light output. Only thing you've to worry about is the heat but if you can control that you'll be a happy man.

Actually, let me show you!

5 Snow White (Nirvana), 400w HPS, vegged for 6 weeks...week 5/6 flower :


5 AK48 (Nirvana), 600w HPS (from 2 weeks into flower, 400w HPS before that), vegged for 3 weeks...week 5/6 flower...


Please choose for yourself ;)

EDIT: Also demonstrates the difference between organic nutes and chemical nutes...Snow White was Biobizz and AK's are Canna.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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fucking awesome bro,,, thats freakn impressive!!!! I think i will save up for a 6 instead... its only like 40 or 50 bucks more, but fuck it, if that extra light will get me extra bud, dammit it is worth it...



Harrekin said:
Thing about the difference between a 400w and a 600w...400w averages 45,000 initial lumens, 600w average 90,000 lumens...so for only 1/2 more power you're getting 2x the light output. Only thing you've to worry about is the heat but if you can control that you'll be a happy man.

Actually, let me show you!

5 Snow White (Nirvana), 400w HPS, vegged for 6 weeks...week 5/6 flower :


5 AK48 (Nirvana), 600w HPS (from 2 weeks into flower, 400w HPS before that), vegged for 3 weeks...week 5/6 flower...


Please choose for yourself ;)

EDIT: Also demonstrates the difference between organic nutes and chemical nutes...Snow White was Biobizz and AK's are Canna.
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jigfresh

jigfresh

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olylifter420 said:
I just want to grow maybe 2 plants at a time only... nothing way to big as in number of plants... so do you think a 600 is necessary?

thanks
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It doesn't so much matter number of plants. I've had a 2 plant grow that was bigger and yeilded more than a 6 plant grow... the 2 were big and the 6 were small. It's really about space, heat, money, and what you need the yeilds for. If you figure a yeild of 0.4 grams per watt (which you should be able to get), then with a 600 you'd be harvesting 8.5 oz per round. If you only smoke an ounce a month, then that's 8 months worth. If you are planning on getting rid of some, that may play a factor. If you are only growing for yourself and don't smoke like a chimney, you might opt for a 400. With the same ratio you'd be getting 5.75 oz per harvest.

I made the mistake of loosing the purpose of my growing. I started this whole thing to grow herb I could smoke, so I wouldn't have to buy it. 2 years later and thousands of dollars invested, I am harvesting big amounts, especially with how little I smoke and I wish I didn't spend so much money. I have enough herb to last a few years... possibly 10, haha. So yeah... look at where you are trying to go, and see what you need to get there.

It's a hell of a lot of fun to go big (just ask masonman, lol)... but not always necessary depending on your situation.

Also, heat is a big concern... big lights in small places need big fans to cool them off... and that's more money and power.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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I wish I had the 600w for flowering out those Snow Whites tho, under the 400w I got aload of popcorn and just a few bigger buds...I reckon with the 600 I would've doubled the yield easily.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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thats a lot of bud bro, send some my way, lol! but yea, i just want dank smoke for myself, my gf, my brother, mom and trying to get my pops on it... but i like to smoke, so i think i would need several grows a year right? Especially if its dank stuff... i dont get it regularly, so i would really want a lasting supply... what space would be ideal for a 6? 4 x 4 x4 ft or something like that???

awesome information bro, i really appreciate the expert advice...




jigfresh said:
It doesn't so much matter number of plants. I've had a 2 plant grow that was bigger and yeilded more than a 6 plant grow... the 2 were big and the 6 were small. It's really about space, heat, money, and what you need the yeilds for. If you figure a yeild of 0.4 grams per watt (which you should be able to get), then with a 600 you'd be harvesting 8.5 oz per round. If you only smoke an ounce a month, then that's 8 months worth. If you are planning on getting rid of some, that may play a factor. If you are only growing for yourself and don't smoke like a chimney, you might opt for a 400. With the same ratio you'd be getting 5.75 oz per harvest.

I made the mistake of loosing the purpose of my growing. I started this whole thing to grow herb I could smoke, so I wouldn't have to buy it. 2 years later and thousands of dollars invested, I am harvesting big amounts, especially with how little I smoke and I wish I didn't spend so much money. I have enough herb to last a few years... possibly 10, haha. So yeah... look at where you are trying to go, and see what you need to get there.

It's a hell of a lot of fun to go big (just ask masonman, lol)... but not always necessary depending on your situation.

Also, heat is a big concern... big lights in small places need big fans to cool them off... and that's more money and power.
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DST

DST

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Looks like the posse got you sorted Olylifter. We look forward to seeing you busting out a 600 in the not so distant future.

And that size you are talking about is cool. The footprint for a 600 is around a metre squared (3.3x3.3ft)

Peace, DST
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Where's my fdd piece? Friday night in small town florida. It's raining like a mo fo and looks like rain through tomorrow...oddly enough it's sunny inside and a comfortable seventy eight degrees. This florida weather is crazy.

I have the outdoor itch and I can't imagine why? I've given my vietnam vet buddy that I started for him, four auto flowers, two chocolate berry from sannie regular beans and a clone from either the psycho killer or deep psycho. In party cups I have two cesspools, a green manalishi and a gryphon awaiting their move to his back yard. I'll try to get some pics tomorrow, I haven't seen them for about two weeks myself.
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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I have to attempt a scrog there's just no other choice after seeing some of the pics on here and reading about yields. Well jig I guess you can be the designated weed bringer at masonman's trimming party. I had to laugh reading your post, I'm not going to ask why you keep growing that would be just plain stupid, growing is addictive, extremely addictive. I'm starting to wonder if I am indeed searching for that elusive perfect smoke or just constantly trying to grow something that I can say is the best smoke I've ever had, or am I just trying to reach my personal goal of a quarter pound per plant? I smoked some of the second generation white widow today after a three week or so cure. Have I mentioned we grow some good weed? It was the typical white widow reek as soon as you opened the jar. After one bag with my ex partner I was good to go, except it took me a while to leave. That was a good hour and a half ago and I'm still pleasantly stoned. I don't really smoke that much. I could get by on less than a quarter a week and I'm thinking I might try, at least for a while, only getting stoned once a day. I'm at the six, coffee in hand with a nice buzz talking to my family. What could be better? Hmm, I can think of something better, I'll be practicing saturday night.

Told you I was stoned, notice in the previous post I'm saying it's friday?
 
dr green dre

dr green dre

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bassman999 said:
What exactly happened Dre???
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Cool bass , just got back in .. basicly the plants were carted off by the po, not sure how yet . I was going to start the process last night and look at that, would of done well started cause i doubt i would of finished even half of trimming but someone could of still been there when they came at the worst.
Had a few ;) Dogs that was smelling like uuummm.. Sounds crazy but thats the only thing im missing really had a few other strains but this was the release after the samples given out earlier got 5star reviews. Anyway there trying there sweat game on the landlord but thats to be expected. Sometimes these things need to happen cause if everythings glory you dont get the proper picture if that makes any sense.. for example all i could hear was "im glad u used to stress about certain things like drinking and smoking in the place" some off them act as if its legal the stuff they were doing . Not me i don't fancy paying for some inflated bud price (as they value your crop at nearly double the price you'd get) .

"charge it to tha game"
:peace:Dre
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Lg, I use a piece of chain and then from the chain I have rope ratchet hangers for the lights and they are great. If you get nothing else for you garden, get them. The best light adjusting tool I've used by far. I'll get some pics up in a few minutes.
 
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