High-pressure (aka "true") aeroponics - nutrient schedule?

[kmbud]

This is what I have to work with if using Cloudtops as a supplier:

80 degree, 105 degree, 115 degree, and 120 degree. The 80 degree nozzles have different flow rates. A
0.0122 gpm, 0.0330 gpm, and 0.0227 gpm.

If none of these will work I am at a loss. I haven't seen anything else to try unless you can make a suggestion. They have fog nozzles, but work at 1000 psi pressure.

As always thanks for your help.

 

[Trichy Bastard]

KM- are you set only on cloudtops for a particular reason? Treefarmer has already established that the impingement biocontrols nozzles worked quite well for him: http://www.biocontrols.com/aero6j.htm

I've read and been told that about 1 out of 10 of these nozzles is imperfect, but will probably go this route and order a few extras. I think I want the ultra low flow version, (0.16" orifice <0.04 oz/sec) but not sure.

 

[kmbud]

I haven't read tree farmer but am going to put it on my list. The cloudtops is what I have seen so far. I will look at the impingement biocontrols nozzles. Thanks

As always thanks for the help.

 

[kmbud]

http://www.biocontrols.com/aero6j.htm[/URL]

I've read and been told that about 1 out of 10 of these nozzles is imperfect, but will probably go this route and order a few extras. I think I want the ultra low flow version, (0.16" orifice <0.04 oz/sec) but not sure.

Atomizer - Would these work that TB is suggesting? They look to be better than the Cloudtops. I think I can get 1/4 in plastic body solenoids from ebay for around $16 each plus shipping and put one at each nozzle.

As always thanks for the help.

 

[thump easy]

my girlfriend sead that im cheating on her with the aero ponic machine. if i had to choose between the aero n my girl the kid n the three pits man this is a hard one.?

 

[Trichy Bastard]

I haven't read tree farmer but am going to put it on my list. The cloudtops is what I have seen so far. I will look at the impingement biocontrols nozzles. Thanks

As always thanks for the help.

I cannot recommend enough for you to read this thread here in RIU started by treefarmer: "my true hp aero plug&play pods". It is basically from a couple years ago where Atomizer and Tree Farmer were working together to dial this system in. It's a monster thread, but everything you need to know is in there. It should save you and Atomizer alot of back and forth questions on the basics, and really help you get a grip on what this is all about from the inside out. Almost all I've learned about hp aero was from this thread, and I feel pretty well versed now. But I'm sure Atomizer has forgotten more than I know about it.

 

[kmbud]

Hey guys back again. I found these on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/1-4-SS-12V-DC-Solenoid-Valve-STAINLESS-VITON-S20V-/290530101009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a4f18711 and thinking of getting 10 for 10 of the nozzles that TB is talking about above and fire down from the top. The solenoids I can get invoiced for 10% off and free shipping. What do you guys think?

TB: do you have any idea of the cost of those nozzles?

 

[kmbud]

This is my plan so far:



The square things are solenoids, the long lines to them is 3/8 jg line, the short line from the solenoids is 1/4 line to the mister, the dot at the end of the short line is the mister location. Each plant has at least 2 misters.

 

[Mike Young]

I don't know if it's the picture or what, but those solenoids don't look like stainless to me. I'd make certain. The bio nozzles are 2 for $10, but they really get ya on shipping. I payed either 50 or 60 for 6 of em.

 

[Trichy Bastard]

They look like reasonable solenoids compared to all I have been looking at lately- I like the "very fast acting" part. I think they are stainless, just not brushed/polished. Mike's are so pretty like that .

 

[kmbud]

Yea I emailed and ask questions. He recomended those said they would absolute shut down 100psi no leakage. Also would hold up to liquid nutes with the vicon seal. I posted a better image of my intended setup above.

 

[kmbud]

I don't know if it's the picture or what, but those solenoids don't look like stainless to me. I'd make certain. The bio nozzles are 2 for $10, but they really get ya on shipping. I payed either 50 or 60 for 6 of em.

Proud of that shipping, damn thats a lot.

 

[kmbud]

Two quick questions:
1. Do any of you know where to get a 1/4 push fit x 1/8 npt adapter? Will need that to plumb in the 1/8 npt nozzles to 1/4 line.
2. I was looking at maybe a 4.4 gal accumulator. but I see where some have use a 2 gal. I am doing 8 nozzles hopefully of the ones from bio controls (they are out of stock by the way because of the plastic shortage linked to the gas prices). Which accumulator would be best for me?

I bought a used Omrom H5CX-AD timer on ebay for $50 shipped, hope I can figure out how to program it. Also got a NIB Watts #26A water pressure regulator for under $30 on ebay. And I bought the 10 SS solenoids disgussed earlier.

As always thanks for any and all help.

 

[Mike Young]

Here's the fittings...http://www.uswatersystems.com/shop/products/1%7B47%7D4%22--Quick-Connect-x-1%7B47%7D8%22-FPT-John-Guest-Fitting-%252d-PP450821W.html

Not sure about the accumulator, as I went 19 gallon for fewer pump cycles. That timer looks cool. Programmable to .0001 secs? Jesus, I thought the ATC was the only sub second timer. I'm sure atomizer has heard of this one, and hopefully doesn't have anything bead to say about it

 

[kmbud]

Here's the fittings...http://www.uswatersystems.com/shop/products/1%7B47%7D4%22--Quick-Connect-x-1%7B47%7D8%22-FPT-John-Guest-Fitting-%252d-PP450821W.html

Thanks Mike

 

[Atomizer]

0.0001sec is overkill but if the price was right then why not. The timer relay, solenoid along with any hydraulic delays will add to the overall setting so you wont get 0.0001 sec even if its set for that . A 4.4gal accumulator would be better than 2gal.

 

[kmbud]

0.0001sec is overkill but if the price was right then why not. The timer relay, solenoid along with any hydraulic delays will add to the overall setting so you wont get 0.0001 sec even if its set for that . A 4.4gal accumulator would be better than 2gal.

Yea I got the idea about the timer from fatman's post in the plug&play pods thread. It's there if I need it. I am planning to put the solenoid just as close as plumbing will allow. Solenoid - elbow - maybe one inch of pipe - 1/8 npt adapter - nozzle. That should heep run on to an absolute min. No adv will be installed, with the solenoid this close I didn't think I could get an adv any closer to the nozzle. I will get the 4.4 gal tank.

 

[Trichy Bastard]

Cool Km- sounds like you're doing it right... I'm going for a similar setup- I looked into the omrons too, but I wanted a 12v timer to keep things simple and the all the same- I think omrons only go to 24v, but it shouldn't be too hard to do a step up transformer.

 

[PetFlora]

On another note:

Hurray. I found a better PVC Coupler at Lowes. This one has much shorter threads AND a locking ring. The shorter threads will help the mist to reach the starter cube. The locking ring will help keep the plant from listing/falling.



Part # 25018. Schedule 40 called a Slip Joint Nut and Washer 1 1/2". Comes in a baggie, so you might need to ask. $2.66 each set

 

[Trichy Bastard]

On another note:

Hurray. I found a better PVC Coupler at Lowes. This one has much shorter threads AND a locking ring. The shorter threads will help the mist to reach the starter cube. The locking ring will help keep the plant from listing/falling.



Part # 25018. Schedule 40 called a Slip Joint Nut and Washer 1 1/2". Comes in a baggie, so you might need to ask. $2.66 each set

Yeah, cool- A compression fitting. So are ya gonna clamp it in the top of your tray, for stability? I wonder if you could also screw some coarse mesh screen in between the threads for more of a foundation the roots could grab onto?