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[Scroggsy]

So does a recirculating system not compound the salt buildup issue? or can you counteract this by adjusting feeding levels between res changeouts etc? I would be interested to know. I too am watering by hand and it would be nice to have an automated system be it run to waste or recirculating, the latter would be far more economical.

I have been considering installing an automated drip/flood run to waste for my Airpots but recirculating sounds very interesting. Scroggsy.

 

[nas2007]

nas- good to see you back buddy havent heard from you in a couple weeks it seems like. like you said that air is brought into the coco when watered so thats IMO why its not possible to overwater, since overwatering has to do with suffocating the roots with water without a good oxygen exchange going on.

im doing well bro been really buisy with the house got majar work going on + setting the loft up i am despret to start the grow im spending 20 quid every day on a bag as i ran out!! its a bitch but im sure every single grower must go trough this atleast ones or twize, but cudnt avoid that workers are going to be walking all around the house and last thing i want is to get busted, this game we play is better playd save!! so im looking at another 2-3 weeks max touch wood,

back to the subject lol

i know exactly what you mean bro and i know where your comin from, but look at it this way, if something living has to to to to to much of somthing what hapopens? like one of the boys sayd "if you sat there like a dummy with a 10 gallon jug and just drained it for hours then yea lol" thats a preety good example lol, but yeah snow crash is abit exaggerating on it

 

[littlegrower2004]

im doing well bro been really buisy with the house got majar work going on + setting the loft up i am despret to start the grow im spending 20 quid every day on a bag as i ran out!! its a bitch but im sure every single grower must go trough this atleast ones or twize, but cudnt avoid that workers are going to be walking all around the house and last thing i want is to get busted, this game we play is better playd save!! so im looking at another 2-3 weeks max touch wood,

back to the subject lol

i know exactly what you mean bro and i know where your comin from, but look at it this way, if something living has to to to to to much of somthing what hapopens? like one of the boys sayd "if you sat there like a dummy with a 10 gallon jug and just drained it for hours then yea lol" thats a preety good example lol, but yeah snow crash is abit exaggerating on it

cant wait to see you back in action buddy! definetely better to play safe than sorry. you over in the UK? i guess i could see that sitting there with water for hours on end would be potentially harmful but thats like drowning haha not over watered. just saw a couple interesting conversations going on over in the 600 about finishing plants with a drowning technique, seems odd but they say its some super clean end product.

 

[del66666]

im doing well bro been really buisy with the house got majar work going on + setting the loft up i am despret to start the grow im spending 20 quid every day on a bag as i ran out!! its a bitch but im sure every single grower must go trough this atleast ones or twize, but cudnt avoid that workers are going to be walking all around the house and last thing i want is to get busted, this game we play is better playd save!! so im looking at another 2-3 weeks max touch wood,

back to the subject lol

i know exactly what you mean bro and i know where your comin from, but look at it this way, if something living has to to to to to much of somthing what hapopens? like one of the boys sayd "if you sat there like a dummy with a 10 gallon jug and just drained it for hours then yea lol" thats a preety good example lol, but yeah snow crash is abit exaggerating on it

grow more....much more......

 

[vdubb808]

And do you use Canna Nutes? How is it working out for you this way and how many grows have you done this way? Just tryin to find a better way cause I hand water!

Sorry just went back a page and seen your post pretty much answered these questions. Any chance you can post some pics would love to see your set up!

I've done 2 grows this way and setting up my next one the same way, using the ebb & flow set-up. I don't use canna nutes because no one carries it locally here in Hawaii. So I use the Botanicare CNS17 Coco nutes. I want to try Canna nutes, but I'll just wait until a local hydro store carries it. I found a pic on my computer, it doesn't show the set-up here but it shows how healthy my girls were. I will try and find some pics with the set-up, I made a video a while back but I never posted it online.I wil try and see if I still have it.

 

[vdubb808]

So does a recirculating system not compound the salt buildup issue? or can you counteract this by adjusting feeding levels between res changeouts etc? I would be interested to know. I too am watering by hand and it would be nice to have an automated system be it run to waste or recirculating, the latter would be far more economical.

I have been considering installing an automated drip/flood run to waste for my Airpots but recirculating sounds very interesting. Scroggsy.

Salt build up is a concern, so what I do is flush every 3 to 4 weeks w/ Clearex and 1 week before harvest I Clearex and run RO'd water. So far no signs of salt build up being an issue. I tend to feed higher doses of recommened nutes if the plants don't show any signs of stress. If I was to use another brand of nutes I will do some testing before I go out of the recommended nute schedule.

 

[vdubb808]

Here's a pic I found from an older post, This is 1 week in 12/12.

 

[Kap10Kush]

hey people i was wondering if i mixed 60% coco 30% perlite and 10% MG organic in a 5 gallon pot for an outdoor grow how frequently do you think i would have to water? also id happily hear opinions on a different ratio for the mix, im aiming for a good mix of the three that won't need to be watered that frequently because my site is a hike away that i dont want to make everyday, thanks so much

 

[lambofgod]

hey people i was wondering if i mixed 60% coco 30% perlite and 10% MG organic in a 5 gallon pot for an outdoor grow how frequently do you think i would have to water? also id happily hear opinions on a different ratio for the mix, im aiming for a good mix of the three that won't need to be watered that frequently because my site is a hike away that i dont want to make everyday, thanks so much

Im pretty new to coco, but I wouldn't mix it with anything other then perlite.....coco to me seems like it can hold a good amount of water.

I have two strains cheisel and skunk #1, 4 cuts altogether. 2 in coco (80/20 perlite mix) and 2 in roots organic.

I can say the two in coco have out grown the two in roots by 100%

I use cns17 line, dyna gro protekt, calmag, rhizotonic (which I will endorse any day of the year...shits amazing for clones) and cannazyme.

chiesel soil:


chiesel coco:


skunk soil:


skunk coco:


and my Hawaiian in coco....have nothing else to compare it too


had the cuts for two weeks....and from how they came...to what they are now is amazing.
only major difference between coco and soil besides the growth rate....would be the nute usage...mines nearly doubled, that's to be expected though I guess.

as for the sand.....damn fungus gnats!

I wont go back to soil!

also forgot to add.....as for the over watering debate.....I've been hand feeding every 4 days or so, So I haven't run into the issue in my veg tent.BUT... I have 11 plants in flower right now, 5 in coco 6 in roots organic.
and can easily see that its much much MUCH MUCH easier to over water in soil compared to coco....but then again I have to water my coco plants every 2 days in flower, compared to every 3-4 in roots.

I wouldn't say it is impossible to over water in coco...seeing as it only holds what it can though, makes it much easier not to. But I'd say its close to impossible!

 

[cocobuds]

It would only be appropriate for me to switch to Coco.

 

[nas2007]

hey people i was wondering if i mixed 60% coco 30% perlite and 10% MG organic in a 5 gallon pot for an outdoor grow how frequently do you think i would have to water? also id happily hear opinions on a different ratio for the mix, im aiming for a good mix of the three that won't need to be watered that frequently because my site is a hike away that i dont want to make everyday, thanks so much

no need to ad perlit in coco my friend, perlite are mix to media to make it drain well when waterd, coco drains well inuf on its own

 

[littlegrower2004]

some pics to liven up the thread, plus i havent posted any porn in here before so i may as well haha.

 

[ChroniCDooM]

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[bubbels]

hey, im on my first coco grow now on day five. i water my plants with ph 5,8 but the runoff is like 6,5 im using cocomix from biobizz and on the bag it says that the ph in the coco is 6,1, so when the water is 5,8 and the coco is 6,1 i was thinking something in between. this is my second watering since i repotted them 5 days ago from my rainforrest in to 4,5gallon pots(not the best thing but wanted to try coco insted).

so shall i just ignore it or do something about it? if so what?

 

[littlegrower2004]

ignore it if its not causing any problems.

 

[bubbels]

ignore it if its not causing any problems.

well they are quite purpe and it seems to grow slow to be a chocolope. can it be stress from going from aero to coco five days ago?

 

[littlegrower2004]

that is very possible about the stress slowing down the growth. i dont think the run off being in that range would cause any purp. is that an aero cloner you mean or a aeroflow system? before your plant gets fully established it wont grow super fast but once its got good root growth it should have nice explosive growth. how often are you watering and with what nutes?

 

[bubbels]

that is very possible about the stress slowing down the growth. i dont think the run off being in that range would cause any purp. is that an aero cloner you mean or a aeroflow system? before your plant gets fully established it wont grow super fast but once its got good root growth it should have nice explosive growth. how often are you watering and with what nutes?

i cloned with the rainforest(aerocloner).roots seems good they are white and popping out of all holes. water on day one and day five with 15% runoff i used canna coco a and b. maybe to little water? but it was moist under the surfase! but im used to soil and they say not to treat it like it is.

 

[lambofgod]

im new to coco also, I water at 5.9...run off is usually in the 6.4-6.6 range. Plants are as healthy as they get....So I'm not even paying attention to it.

To get the correct ph reading your supposed to make a slurry I guess. Taking some coco and water sloshing them around then getting a reading is supposed to be more accurate.

As long as shes green though I wouldn't worry. maybe a little diluted P for the stress.?

 

[littlegrower2004]

i cloned with the rainforest(aerocloner).roots seems good they are white and popping out of all holes. water on day one and day five with 15% runoff i used canna coco a and b. maybe to little water? but it was moist under the surfase! but im used to soil and they say not to treat it like it is.

well 4.5 gallon pots are going to take atleast a couple weeks to be filled with roots but you can definetely see theyre progressing if they are popping out the bottom already. sounds like your on track and just need to let them do theyre thing. 15% run off is good and ensures your not underwatering and that the bottom roots are getting appropriate moisture. the main reason not to treat it like soil to me is that you dont want your medium to dry out as much and it requires nutes for every feeding. plus IMO you cant over water which is a huge mistake many beginners make when using soil for their first times. post some pics for us if you dont mind, if we see any noticeable problems we can stop it for you.