sativa getting too tall for light.

Mr.bagseed

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The plant was put in to flower on 12/2 and is growing like 2 inches a day. Fucker wont slow down! :-|

Should i top the plant? Theres enough room for the top of the plant to keep growing, but it wont get light, only the sides will get light. Should i let it grow out?

This was it a couple days ago..

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Here it is today..

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golddog

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The plant was put in to flower on 12/2 and is growing like 2 inches a day. Fucker wont slow down! :-|

Should i top the plant? Theres enough room for the top of the plant to keep growing, but it wont get light, only the sides will get light. Should i let it grow out?
I have had the same issue and when I do I SuperCrop it.

There are a few tutorials on this site you can look at.

Essentially..

You pinch the stem, without breaking it, until it soft enough to bend it over.
Then bend it over, it will continue to grow, just lower.

It's easy, but read a tutorial or view a video first.

Good Luck :joint::peace:
 

Mr.bagseed

Well-Known Member
I have had the same issue and when I do I SuperCrop it.

There are a few tutorials on this site you can look at.

Essentially..

You pinch the stem, without breaking it, until it soft enough to bend it over.
Then bend it over, it will continue to grow, just lower.

It's easy, but read a tutorial or view a video first.

Good Luck :joint::peace:
You dont think its too late to super crop? The top looks lanky but there are bud sites everywhere.

Im worried about fucking up the flowering phase..
 

Kerovan

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You are going to have to do something. It's going to be hitting the ceiling before too long. Either supercrop, bend it and lst it or top it. Let this be a lesson, always count on your plants at least tripling in height when you put them in flower.
 

Mr.bagseed

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You are going to have to do something. It's going to be hitting the ceiling before too long. Either supercrop, bend it and lst it or top it. Let this be a lesson, always count on your plants at least tripling in height when you put them in flower.
na theres another 4 feet of room to grow.


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Im thinking of letting it just grow out and let the sides get light.

Im going to look in to supercropping though.
 

Nullis

Moderator
If you do nothing (continue to let the tops grow into the light, or beyond the light) it is very likely to cause some stress the plant. The primary cola is largely considered to be the best part of the plant, and in good growing conditions that is where the bulk of the harvest comes from. Any part of the plant that is shaded or otherwise isn't getting enough light is going to stretch in response. Therefore, that over-grown Sativa is going to become more and more over-grown as it seeks out more intense light. When that light never comes: those shaded areas which have not been able to photosynthesize and produce enough energy to support the overhead of its essential life processes- let alone any new growth or bud development- will eventually be considered a lost cause to the rest of the plant. After several days the leaves will wilt and curl under. This will become more severe until the shaded leaves/buds/cola/branches are finally exhausted and dropped entirely by the plant.

Even if areas of the plant are getting some light, just not enough, the affected leaves will begin to shrivel inwards/claw up and once re-introduced to sufficient lighting they still probably wont fully recover.

You can try to bend the plant in other ways in attempt to get all of the growth under light. New growth is always going to be much more pliable, and you can train it to grow in virtually any manner you desire. You could also try to affix the container at and angle if possible so that it is more diagonal and hence the tops are lowered. Or you might consider adding more fluorescent lighting at the top and sides.
 

Mr.bagseed

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If you do nothing (continue to let the tops grow into the light, or beyond the light) it is very likely to cause some stress the plant. The primary cola is largely considered to be the best part of the plant, and in good growing conditions that is where the bulk of the harvest comes from. Any part of the plant that is shaded or otherwise isn't getting enough light is going to stretch in response. Therefore, that over-grown Sativa is going to become more and more over-grown as it seeks out more intense light. When that light never comes: those shaded areas which have not been able to photosynthesize and produce enough energy to support the overhead of its essential life processes- let alone any new growth or bud development- will eventually be considered a lost cause to the rest of the plant. After several days the leaves will wilt and curl under. This will become more severe until the shaded leaves/buds/cola/branches are finally exhausted and dropped entirely by the plant.

Even if areas of the plant are getting some light, just not enough, the affected leaves will begin to shrivel inwards/claw up and once re-introduced to sufficient lighting they still probably wont fully recover.

You can try to bend the plant in other ways in attempt to get all of the growth under light. New growth is always going to be much more pliable, and you can train it to grow in virtually any manner you desire. You could also try to affix the container at and angle if possible so that it is more diagonal and hence the tops are lowered. Or you might consider adding more fluorescent lighting at the top and sides.
well fuck me running. Good logical response. Im def. gonna super crop it now. Question is where?

Should i try and bend it at the lowest most pliable point on the stem so it has enough room for the rest of flowering?
 

Kerovan

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I personally would not supercrop it at this point. I would bend it and lst it as much as possible without breaking anything. supercropping may not harm it, but I don't know that for certain. I would go for the least stressful method which would be gentle bending.
 

PlantManBee

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definitely bend it down to be under the light. the stress from that will be less than the stress of a lightless top cola. not to mention it's hot up there!
 

Mr.bagseed

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I personally would not supercrop it at this point. I would bend it and lst it as much as possible without breaking anything. supercropping may not harm it, but I don't know that for certain. I would go for the least stressful method which would be gentle bending.
I am worried about stress also.

I tied it over twice in two weeks. This was my latest atempt. It took about 8 inches off in total height, but she just takes a licking and keeps on ticking.

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Brick Top

New Member
Possibly your pictures are deceiving but it does appear that your light could be raised a fair bit more. If you can raise it, then raise it. If you worry that your other plant(s) will then be to far from your light ... put them on a small table or a stack of bricks or a stack of short stacked 4X4's or something to bring them up to the level they would need to be. It's not like they are glued to the floor, are they?
 

mouthmeetsoap

Active Member
I learned on my first grow that you can supercrop pretty late into flowering with no effects at all. I did it with 4 weeks left to go, then it happened again 2 weeks later because the cola toppled itself. I was very pleased with the results. As to where at, I would try to crop it as close to the rest of the canopy as possible. Looking at how big your plant is this shouldn't cause much harm except for maybe a half weeks worth of growth slowing. Your other plants are going to begin stretching with the light so far away. Hope that helps.
 

Mr.bagseed

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Possibly your pictures are deceiving but it does appear that your light could be raised a fair bit more. If you can raise it, then raise it. If you worry that your other plant(s) will them be to far from your light ... put them on a small table or a stack of bricks or a stack of short stacked 4X4's or something to bring them up to the level they would need to be. It's not like they are glued to the floor, are they?
It is possible to raise lights, but next to impossible(for me) to do it at this juncture..it would take me a fair while to move it up to the next metal shelf thingy and i dont think im ready for that. This is my first grow so im leaning towards just bending the sativa over.
 

Brick Top

New Member
It is possible to raise lights, but next to impossible(for me) to do it at this juncture..it would take me a fair while to move it up to the next metal shelf thingy and i dont think im ready for that. This is my first grow so im leaning towards just bending the sativa over.

It's not what I would do, but it is of course your call.

I would suggest that before you begin your next crop you invest in a set of light hangers. Something somewhat like this. It will make things easier.


SunRise Reflector Hangers
Stop counting chain links! SunRise Reflector Hangers make it easy to adjust the height of your grow lights. Easy to use, just mount the hangers to your ceiling, attach your reflector and adjust to desired height. Features retractable nylon cord for smooth up and down motion (33-inch vertical range). It's the easiest way to maintain optimum light distance from plants. Includes hanging hooks and two SunRise Hangers. Will not work with Sunburst Light Systems. Maximum weight 22 lbs. / pair.


 

nog

Active Member
supercrop, it it will be fine as long as you dont over do it, if you try to lst a tall plant you risk snapping it in an uncontrolled way, if you crush then bend you are less likely to actually snap the stem.
 

Mr.bagseed

Well-Known Member
I bought those exact hangers.

Lmao, for some reason i ended up using those twisty things that you tie around plastic bread bags hahaha. I used a bunch and they work excellent. I induced flower at about 3 weeks from seed so they wouldnt get too tall. I didnt plan well enough i guess. I didnt think id get a heavy sativa. Thought 4 1/2 feet would be plenty of room. Live and learn i guess.
 

Mr.bagseed

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Here is how its tied up.

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And here is the next shelve. As you can tell theres only about a foot of spce between theis shelve and the ceiling so it would def. be a struggle to move the reflector up. I would need the walk in space which is occupied by the plants.

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