The Art of The Auto

FullDuplex

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Well, clearly, you know the autos better than I do... if you can "upgrade" my advice, so to speak, I'll of course differ to you, sir... :)
Hope i didnt come of smug JM didnt want to my friend, i was just typing out loud lol
You do a fantastic job, i always look at your posts and say welp JM's got that one
Your knowledge is growing my friend and i like seeing that. Means people are learning :)


mornin FD!
Morning Buddy
 

teflondummy

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LOL... now that I doubt, but maybe... I was thinking more along the lines of using hormones to manipluate the plant to stay vegetative for longer thereby enbling easy cloning for propogation... and possibly even eventually 1)discovering exactly what causes flowering in the autos and 2) whether we can actually control it with hormones / auxins / etc. 3) can this help determine more about genetics in some way? (ie studying via micro-culture for say, light response, hormone reponse, mediums, different nutrients, mediums, etc etc)
That is what I was just thinking. It has been hard to find any kind of info about the differences between autos and photo girls. Not just in structure, but in process. I would like to understand a little better. There is a market for a book on the subject.
 

FullDuplex

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That is what I was just thinking. It has been hard to find any kind of info about the differences between autos and photo girls. Not just in structure, but in process. I would like to understand a little better. There is a market for a book on the subject.
Indeed there is, that would be a great compliment to my book. One on how to grow and the other on how it works.
 

John Mondello

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Well I'll let ya know when I publish it! lol... I think thats a bit off... gotta get a good microscpe, and some lab gear, and build a laminar flow table.

FD, Never taken as smug, my friend, I was simply deferring to your greater experience with autos, and, apparent knowledge of nutrient defficiencies and lockouts.

EDIT: For everyone in this forum, please never take my comments as smug, attitude, brash, etc... I am simply seeking the best and most accurate information... :)

There, cover fire layed out... running... you guessed it... Full Duplex!

J
 

John Mondello

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Also, FD, if you remember when I had the "phosphorous toxicity"... and then I got a ph meter and we found out my ph was way high... does that quite possibly mean I'm not running the nutes level I could or even should be running? I'd love to amp em up a bit... just been afraid of burning them... on my photos, I'd be dumping on about now (flowering age wise).

J
 

John Mondello

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On the micro-culture front, I'm also thinkng of propogation for seed production, more on the mini scale, and not so much the micro scale... bu think about the number of different strains of pollen, or seeds, say, that cpould be produced in a real mini environment (just for genetic work or small-time seed production)
 

John Mondello

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[video=youtube;ZjWk9AM30Qo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjWk9AM30Qo[/video]

For thoe who want a little more visual understanding of pollination...
 

dargo

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I went to pick up some nute for a hempy bucket grow today (going to ditch the soil indoors, I just cant get it right!), In conversation with the BOSS!! I said I allway use rain water in the greenhouse and outdoors.... OHHHH NOOOO you cant do that!!!!! he said, you wouldnt drink rain water so why the hell would you feed it to your plants! he then asked me all fucking smugg & up his own ass.... do you drink rain water? I said no, do you drink canna boost? he looked at me like I just shit on his mums grave & said..... anyway you cant grow outdoors here, not even in a greenhouse. I reminded him all I came in for was so A & B and thats all I need. I hate going in there, the is only one guy that I normally talk to but he wasnt in today. the rest have been growing the same strains for 20 years with the same equipmtment and they put down anything they dont use, even though they havnt used it. rant over lol

The 4 Bad Betty x Nirvana Sky I started popped there heads up this morning
 

FullDuplex

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I went to pick up some nute for a hempy bucket grow today (going to ditch the soil indoors, I just cant get it right!), In conversation with the BOSS!! I said I allway use rain water in the greenhouse and outdoors.... OHHHH NOOOO you cant do that!!!!! he said, you wouldnt drink rain water so why the hell would you feed it to your plants! he then asked me all fucking smugg & up his own ass.... do you drink rain water? I said no, do you drink canna boost? he looked at me like I just shit on his mums grave & said..... anyway you cant grow outdoors here, not even in a greenhouse. I reminded him all I came in for was so A & B and thats all I need. I hate going in there, the is only one guy that I normally talk to but he wasnt in today. the rest have been growing the same strains for 20 years with the same equipmtment and they put down anything they dont use, even though they havnt used it. rant over lol

The 4 Bad Betty x Nirvana Sky I started popped there heads up this morning
Lol thats too funny dargo made for a good laugh. Its funny how people can be set in there ways. Rain water is ALL i use and i have never had and issue, actually have only had better results. It seems the older growers are scared to try something out of their comfort zone. Not all are like this but most are and thats a shame.

"do you drink rain water?....no......Do you drink canna boost? LOL fantastic response dargo :clap:
would have loved to see his face on that one.
 

43Hitman

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Lol thats too funny dargo made for a good laugh. Its funny how people can be set in there ways. Rain water is ALL i use and i have never had and issue, actually have only had better results. It seems the older growers are scared to try something out of their comfort zone. Not all are like this but most are and thats a shame.

"do you drink rain water?....no......Do you drink canna boost? LOL fantastic response dargo :clap:
would have loved to see his face on that one.

Lmao, me too man.
 

dargo

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Now I read it back it is pretty funny, but I was seriouse when I said it to him. fuck me there isnt one thing id drink that I feed my plants apart from molasses (which I was advised in the same shop is recomened to people that dont know what there doing by people that dont know what there doing - that time I only wnet in for some reflective sheeting!!! lol)

Without going back over the thread.... who is growin in a hempy bucket in here ? my indoor soil growing days are over :( I got all the shit I need to get growing, just wanted advice on errr pretty much everything really. also can you use drippers with hempy bucket or does that defeat the point?
 

teflondummy

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Hey dargo K2 has a good link to an idiots guide to hempy in her thread. the link to her thread is in her sig. the other link is only a page or two into the thread. Don't tell her I sent you as it will only make her suspicious.
 

mossys

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Evening m8's......maann..can you lot yap or what....?.....:bigjoint:

Mossy posted some pics of that small red pot ages ago, they were over watered then. If you go find the pics it looks like it could use some N but the leaves are droopy. Over water to the tee :grin:. Had to mossy.. lol But you brought it out for us. Fair game for teaching IMO :mrgreen:
BH...tut..tut...tut....
you know that was a "controlled fault" so the noobs could feel better about bringing their own probelms in..........:lol:

No..you know better..you see my grows and girls warts and all....
growing is all about getting over your problems...and Still harvesting....:leaf:

M8's..the only thing that made me smile this morning were the photos of the Girls...
TFF AF's....cheer up Any day.

JM..every morning they make me smile more...:mrgreen:
 

mossys

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Aw FullD...I want BOTH of them...Bro...SO CUTE.
Laughed at the other photo...looks like you pulled the pup straight off the nipple....mmmmmmmm
you Did say you were bottle feeding...right m8.

Loads of spare karma sent for them m8...
I know how you are kicking the odds to get this far.

nc....she just keeps astounding me....and the others are looking Lush....
I love seeing the deep green pheno with brilliant white bud...contrast is stunning.

Hey dargo....why you finished with soil m8...?
Can't see it in the thread..
But there is so much info I could have missed it.

The 4 Bad Betty x Nirvana Sky I started popped there heads up this morning
Wey hey....new to the world AF's...Speed & Safety for them.....:leaf:

I Love the anticipation of something New to the world........:clap:...
 

mossys

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Yeah..yeah..I know you get sick of seeing this one...
But..
for me her balance gets better and better every day.
I sit in the glass-house and simply stare at her..and lose myself.

Thats AF Love....:mrgreen:

Here is the Tall/different Oguns...I have my arm covering the heads of the smaller phenos...
so you can see her.
Can't help thinking that the way she pulls all her buds up on the level..that she would be Great for lights.



This is one of the small/standard Oguns phenos...they are no slouches...look at the size of the main-stem..

 

dargo

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I just cant seem to get it right indoors with soil. outdoors and in the greenhouse I know I got it right, but I just cant seem to get anything dialed in now im back indoors. Il take everything out tommorrow and do a group shot so you can see my a-z of deficiencies lol. I have been wanting to try coco grow for ages but think im going to do that in the greenhouse side by side with my soil grow to compare the difference. so thats why im trying a few hempy buckets to get the hang of soil less growing.

Im really excited about the super bad bettys, I want a 6ft+ purple/red is that to much to ask for from a F1? :D
 
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