The Art of The Auto

[XxK2xX]

god this thread is out of control lol wow.. Everytime i go to post theres already 4 post infront of mine haha you guys are great...!

 

[FullDuplex]

Vinegar Vigor...
Double the height in width..well defined leaves...oh..fingers crossed.

Man oh man Mossy they look lush as ever, id have to say that the vinegar is doing its thing. There looking as green as how i keep them from an indoor controlled environment. Id have to say you may have found a new key here......

boil it and it disolves the cal..

Worry was..if it simply made the cal settle to the bottom of the water..
then bubbling the water might disturb it..
But..
it is looking Fine..ATM...

It should be dissolving it. The high acid content of the vinegar should be breaking it down while its heated. The combination of the heat and the vinegar should break it down and it evaporate with the rest. If there is anything left in the water I dont think that its enough to cancel out what you did in the first place.

From what i can see on them its deff doing the trick. You may have me changing soon, but as you said time will tell.

Speed & Safety for them shroomy..FullD...

I have the black line dc doms..and the black line standards going...
who is gonna side by side with Me....

Damn..I just remembered..
I am the only person in the Whole World who has them..
guess there is no side-by-side then....

This....is not right nor fair, LOL

You come in and are in high spirits and singing and then rub it all in our faces.
But thats the sweet joy of your dedication to what you do. You can do things like that when you work THAT hard to perfect something.
I guess its just as bad as me posting my tric shots and heavy weights

I always though you US-ers celebrated Thanksgiving withTurkey..
Seems we have found another holiday tradition...

Oh i have em both turkey and some good green, and i ll fresh JEM for the dinner

 

[FullDuplex]

Ok so i dropped some more autos to night:

Bad Betty
Fairy Lights
Oguns

So in total i have the following autos going this year out side:

ALF#3
Bud Wider
ICU#2
Bad Betty
Fairy Lights
Oguns
Auto AK47
NYLD

dont think ill be putting any more out this year that is total of about 80 autos altogether plus a fuck load of normal plants that are consuming 10Ltrs of water each every few days.. fuck me dead Mossy and FullD Ill fly you both down if you help me carry the water through summer LOL

fantastic line up you got there shroomy,

I cant wait to watch some of those you have there
Like the Fairy Lights and the Oguns Ive seen these from mossy
but itll be interesting to see them from you too and in the conditions

I am curious as to how big od pots you have them in as i want to compare you BB and ICU to my current grow,
i know i may be about a week ahead but itll be nice to see

And about that Flight all you need to do is tell me where i need to be and When sounds to me your gonna need the Help

 

[FullDuplex]

One tip..nothing scientific..just observation..
Make the AF part of the cross the Mom.
For me..the females hold the dominance in a cross..

Ill have to keep this noted, only thing is the one plant i want to roll to af
is a long season Femmed seed. So im gonna have to hit it will male JEM pollen
Im hoping the strong dom in JEM will kick in.

 

[FullDuplex]

currently runnin the Kona Mist (X2X4) where X2 = smoke twice and X4= add to tea... finely ground... mhmmmm love the flavor... also in my pics you'll see the 4 kona mists that are started... they will definetly be crossed x LR#2 and then crossed back x kona mist and then back x LR#2... whatchya think mossys? good start to make an auto version of one of my favorites?

Now this sounds like a tasty cross, id be interested in following this.

 

[mossys]

FullD..you know when you pick up a piece of info that is Soo off the wall..you never think you would use it...
weell..
Year ago my m8's wife used to do home-working..she was making these "Stud..Delay" potions for the Lads Mags.
(Wouldn't That go down well in your Mom and Pop stores.....)

It was 95% zinc & caster oil cream..and 5% Deep Heat cream.
obviously the irritant effect increased the blood flow..and also de-sensitised the nerves..
(leading to the staying power..)
Now..if we transfered that knowledge to Lady D's back cream..
I think we would be on a winner.

Extra circulation/oxygen to the nerves..stop them screaming..
nerve desensitising..can only help..
AND the increased blood supply would carry the Chilli essential oil faster into the system.

Hmmm..worth thinking about...

Take the Deep Heat content down to account for the addition of the chillies.

IF you cannot get Deep Heat..(Amazon..?)
try Tiger Balm...
it is generally more available..@ hippy type shops..

 

[FullDuplex]

FullD..you know when you pick up a piece of info that is Soo off the wall..you never think you would use it...
weell..
Year ago my m8's wife used to do home-working..she was making these "Stud..Delay" potions for the Lads Mags.
(Wouldn't That go down well in your Mom and Pop stores.....)

It was 95% zinc & caster oil cream..and 5% Deep Heat cream.
obviously the irritant effect increased the blood flow..and also de-sensitised the nerves..
(leading to the staying power..)
Now..if we transfered that knowledge to Lady D's back cream..
I think we would be on a winner.

Extra circulation/oxygen to the nerves..stop them screaming..
nerve desensitising..can only help..
AND the increased blood supply would carry the Chilli essential oil faster into the system.

Hmmm..worth thinking about...

Take the Deep Heat content down to account for the addition of the chillies.

IF you cannot get Deep Heat..(Amazon..?)
try Tiger Balm...
it is generally more available..@ hippy type shops..

Indeed I have, but i rarely find uses for it LOL maybe thants just my nature.
The balms would shock here at the mom and pops.
Just to have a " adult toy" store in the city they had to fight to keep it
you have to sign a medical slip saying you were recommended by a DR
to have a "toy." So im sure the area i live in would be stunned by a balm in the store that can make ya tingle and last.

I have some tiger balm in the house already as well as a few other
Amish balms for pain and deep penetrating creams. Come from a family
of laborers so the stuff is readily on hand for us. Plush my parents live near an
amish community and my mom shops there all the time so i can get a good amount of natural balms and creams with pain release in them

I may give it a try with the chili oil as well as the balms to find a happy medium
last night had to be the worst of Lady D's pain to the point she almost wanted to go to the hospital. Had a little ALF set back in case and that seemed to help
but i got to find something else to help her.
Im hate to see her hurt, and im tired of the griping

I didn't get the chance to run the mango test this weekend as i was busy with
the holiday shopping as well as the house so ill get to that soon.

 

[mossys]

Man oh man Mossy they look lush as ever, id have to say that the vinegar is doing its thing.

I'm not saying definite..coz mother nature has a habit of bitch-slapping me..
BUT..
it Seems to be doing a lot better than the PH down..ATM..

But thats the sweet joy of your dedication to what you do. You can do things like that when you work THAT hard to perfect something

Nah...it's just coz I'm damned evil...

I guess its just as bad as me posting my tric shots and heavy weights

It Does actually...when you think of how many of the same cross I have viewed..
it never deadens the attraction.

I did, she came down last night, i hated to as i wont have anything to look at for a few weeks now. Got the six little ones that are doing great but its going to be a while before i get to see there real beauty

mmm..makes me glad I grow AF's...at least it will only be weeks before you have a replacement to gaze at..not months.


shroomy...have trimmers..will travel....
I'd Love to see them outdoor in the Aussie sun.
You going into the ground or in pots...
(bpb had a bit of trouble in a garden setting with soil splash in his torrential rain...dirty bud..)

dargo..those figure make me wanna weep.
I did it after being told to try a pre-fert..
I set 5 different big mixed pot away..and got about 90% male dom.
Handy trick when you are rolling though..never know when you may need to split the male pool wide open.

I used to use John Innes potting compo in the UK..but I don't knowif it is still available.
It is specially formulated for seed and has extra perlite/drainage toprevent dampening off.

Over here my oprions are limited..
so I use Universal compost..no pre-ferts.

 

[FullDuplex]

I'm not saying definite..coz mother nature has a habit of bitch-slapping me..
BUT..
it Seems to be doing a lot better than the PH down..ATM..

Indeed it does, they seem to love the treatment. I think that this is going to surprise you more than anything. IF i remember correctly you start to see the build up on the leaves during flower. I guess this will be the point in which we see if ti really worked or not.

Nah...it's just coz I'm damned evil...

Ha ha riiiiight for some reason i dont see that, well maybe only when you post those DC ladies

It Does actually...when you think of how many of the same cross I have viewed..
it never deadens the attraction.

Well good i am glad, at least i know i am feeding your addiction to bud porn.

mmm..makes me glad I grow AF's...at least it will only be weeks before you have a replacement to gaze at..not months.

This is true by the time the JEM seeds are good any ready they should be showing there lady curves as long as i get a female or two.

And about the JEM seeds i made. Some of them have the wildest stripped pattern i have ever seen. Out of the bud i tested last night for mature seeds i had a 92% mature ratio out of a lower bud. I cant wait to see what these ones look like from the top bud.

 

[SmokeyDeHerb]

Hi Guys
Sorry to butt in with a total noob question, but i was wondering if i could have your thoughts on my dodgy nirvana NL auto.
She's been going for just over 7 weeks now, 4 weeks flowering, and i've been slowly trimmimg her back as per your advice a few days back.
My question is does she look like she's progressing as normal?
This is my first grow so i'm not sure if things are going well or not.
From what i've read elsewhere she has about 4 or 5 weeks left to go, but if she's not doing that well i might cut my losses and start one of the shortriders i've got.
I have limited resources and can only grow 1 plant at a time at the moment so don't want to waste 4/5 weeks seeing this one out if it's not going to be worth it.
Any thoughts/advice would be very welcome

 

[FullDuplex]

So i was browsing and i came across this and about fell out of my chair.....

This is an auto DucksFoot

 

[FullDuplex]

Hi Guys
Sorry to butt in with a total noob question, but i was wondering if i could have your thoughts on my dodgy nirvana NL auto.
She's been going for just over 7 weeks now, 4 weeks flowering, and i've been slowly trimmimg her back as per your advice a few days back.
My question is does she look like she's progressing as normal?
This is my first grow so i'm not sure if things are going well or not.
From what i've read elsewhere she has about 4 or 5 weeks left to go, but if she's not doing that well i might cut my losses and start one of the shortriders i've got.
I have limited resources and can only grow 1 plant at a time at the moment so don't want to waste 4/5 weeks seeing this one out if it's not going to be worth it.
Any thoughts/advice would be very welcome

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One thing that i want to ask first.
Did this plant AF on its own or did you have to induce it via 12/12

IF you had to put it into 12/12 its gonna take a while for her to finish out
she is more long season than anything and needs the correct time to fill in.

If this did auto and you didnt have to change the lights then i would say it was from over trimming
that has caused her to slow up. Its ok to trim but in light spurts.
Over doing it WILL cause the plant to stunt and slow a bit.

So I would not cut on her any more and let her finish. It will be worth the wait i promise
you have worked to hard and got this far to just scrap that plant
it would be a crime

 

[SmokeyDeHerb]

One thing that i want to ask first.
Did this plant AF on its own or did you have to induce it via 12/12

IF you had to put it into 12/12 its gonna take a while for her to finish out
she is more long season than anything and needs the correct time to fill in.

If this did auto and you didnt have to change the lights then i would say it was from over trimming
that has caused her to slow up. Its ok to trim but in light spurts.
Over doing it WILL cause the plant to stunt and slow a bit.

So I would not cut on her any more and let her finish. It will be work the wait i promise
you have worked to hard and got this far to just scrap that plant
it would be a crime

Thanks FD
I had to induce her on 12/12, I've now got her going on 16/8. Should i go back to 12/12?
I agree it would be criminal to scrap her and it's not something i would contemplate lightly having invested 7 weeks in her.
Do you think 4/5 weeks left is accurate? That would be 9 weeks flowering in total?

 

[FullDuplex]

Thanks FD
I had to induce her on 12/12, I've now got her going on 16/8. Should i go back to 12/12?
I agree it would be criminal to scrap her and it's not something i would contemplate lightly having invested 7 weeks in her.
Do you think 4/5 weeks left is accurate? That would be 9 weeks flowering in total?

Ok you need to go back to the room ....now and get those lights back on 12/12
you had to induce her flowering by changing back to 12/12.
She didnt have an auto trait and needed the photo period to flower.
Now that she is on 18/6 she is back into a "veg" state and Will slow on flower
as well as could hermi, or go back and start growing new leaves instead of buds.

So my recommendation is get her on 12/12 and shell finish out nicely
i dont for see more than 4 weeks BUT you never know. Either way the yield will be worth it
If you have never smoked NL, that alone is worth the wait. I LOVE me some NL

 

[feva]

hey auto experts got a question for ya. what would be the idea amount of af's in a 4x4 tent with 600 watts. the strains are cobras, blue him diesel and white dwarf. thx for any help

 

[SmokeyDeHerb]

Ok you need to go back to the room ....now and get those lights back on 12/12
you had to induce her flowering by changing back to 12/12.
She didnt have an auto trait and needed the photo period to flower.
Now that she is on 18/6 she is back into a "veg" state and Will slow on flower
as well as could hermi, or go back and start growing new leaves instead of buds.

So my recommendation is get her on 12/12 and shell finish out nicely
i dont for see more than 4 weeks BUT you never know. Either way the yield will be worth it
If you have never smoked NL, that alone is worth the wait. I LOVE me some NL

Thanks for that m8
The reason i went back to 16/8 was because of advice nirvana were giving out and also because i read that 12/12 can reduce yield on autos
But i guess if she's not an auto that's not really an issue
Thanks again - you set my mind at ease

 

[Sibby]

mine didnt auto either, same strain, had to force em into 12/12. Don't think they the best example of an auto. lets hope the WW and big devil is a little bit better after these finish off

 

[FullDuplex]

Thanks for that m8
The reason i went back to 16/8 was because of advice nirvana were giving out and also because i read that 12/12 can reduce yield on autos
But i guess if she's not an auto that's not really an issue
Thanks again - you set my mind at ease

Thats the thing at first i dont think that nirvana had any clue what they were selling. I think they thought they had one thing but really had something else. I dont blame them for this one at all. Im blaming the breeder. The more and more that i have thought about it and the amount of them i have seen leeds me to believe that they bought these on "word" only, then found out from the reports that they were not auto flowering. I have to give them credit as they removed them and are making attempts to make it right, so i have been told.

You are right 12/12 can effect the auto yield BUT they are not auto and i think that the 12/12 will only help

mine didnt auto either, same strain, had to force em into 12/12. Don't think they the best example of an auto. lets hope the WW and big devil is a little bit better after these finish off

I have my fingers crossed for you. Hope to see that the others auto just dont let this miss hap change your thoughts on autos

 

[drmarcusg]

fulld this is an amazing thread! if you have time check out my first grow in my sig and tell me what you think!

 

[mossys]

What we have to stress guys is..they are NOT AUTO.

so auto grow instructions don't count.
Go on long season girl rules.

Smokey..give her some half strength food..alternate days..for 6 days..
with the lights on 12/12..I think she is gonna Wooooof...
Fingers crossed.

If you have never smoked NL, that alone is worth the wait. I LOVE me some NL

Me Too...worth the wait..

FullD..who done the DF...?

I only know one who tried..and had probs bringing the trait out in auto..
something I wouldn't mind having a shot at myself..
those kind of traits Intrigue me.

Something..something..about them reminds me of the cloven pheno..
just cannot put me finger on it.