Club 600

Dezracer

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Love the labs 1bmm & dez :-) looks sweet.
Looking nice Dez. Betting those gals are gonna love that new veg light. :)
Thank you both and I hope so. I'm not sure how close I need to have the t8 though, it's vented out the top so there's really no heat underneath it. I had it on for about an hour and stuck my hand about mid way between the light and plants and it was barely warm on the back of my hand. I'm sure I could go closer but don't know if it's necessary. The closer it is the less it'll spread the light outward and a few of the plants would get less light while the rest got more.
 

DST

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Unless you have a way to cool your closet, it's going to get mighty hot in there with that reflector. I can't even imagine what the temps would be like in a closet with an open hood and a six hundred watt light. Personally I think it's a death sentence to whatever you try to grow unless it's a cactus. Not trying to be a dick but save yourself some money in the long run by investing in an air cooled hood and a six inch fan to move that heat from the light. As for how many plants, I guess it all depends on how you grow them and what size containers you use. I don't like to crowd my plants, I have two lights and don't really like to grow more than six at a time.
I have to agree with HeadsUp, I ran my 600 for a weekend without a cool tube in my 1.2m squared cab, and it was way over 30degree's Celcius...too hot imo.

DST, my casey is doing very nicely. She's about six inches tall and the internodes are quite close together so far, no stretching at all. The headband has finally decided to start growing and is also doing nicely. The headband x cali-o, how long do you generally run them? All of the clones that made it are doing great. My first attempt at growing from a clone and I have to say I love the already alternating branches on such short plants. Both of the moms are starting to hit their stride, they've been flowering for sixteen days. This is the second week of pk 13-14 for my grape ape, white widows, trainwrecks and dog, I upped it to two ml per gallon of water, next week they'll get three ml.
I just flushed my HBXCali O headsup, so it's basically going to be a 8 1/2 weeker I think. The Cali O is actually a 7 weeker, or marketed as a 7 weeker, yeh right!

Dam D you plants are looking good. i noticed in the last few pics it looks like theri is a few nice healthy seeds in theri, did you use her to breed or am i seeing things?

also i went to Galice oregon yesterday to go see Raine Falls, they are mor of huge rapids, it is over a class 5 and you have to have special permits to raft them. they are huge and loud in person. it is a 2 mile hike in and then 2 miles back. i went with my girl and her girl friend and took my pit as well. i only had my cam phone but it took some good pics i think saw some cool stuff and it was very quite and no people but us around, not many go down theri in the winter. at certain times of the year the salmon are jumping up the falls to go spawn and it is a cool site just got to be aware of Bears feeding. i did about 30 mins of fishing only cuz we had to head back before it gets dark. it gets dark here at 5 now witch sucks. soon i am going out theri early morning and fishing all day. it felt like home out theri, no noise other people, no drama, and so fucking peaceful. i even smoked some weed out theri. i had some video of the falls but i cant send them with my phone i thought id share some of the pics i got with my phone. the river is the Rogue river and is a very nice river, if any one ever comes to oregon this place is a must if you like nature
Great pics McP, you already answered my Q that I had in mind...so you gonna do a G grow out there? Yup!!

And re the last 2 pics, they are the Dep Purple Querkle cross, and I have basically made the whole plant into a seed producer, DPQ F2's!!!

Too funny, I was thinking about giving shroom growing a shot too. I don't know anything about them as of yet except how to eat them, LOL. I've been reading online about them like, where to get spores, which are good and not, ideal growing conditions and stuff like that.

Had a busy day today with making some cannaoil and then some brownies using the oil. I also used what butter I had left to make a batch of lollies while I was making the oil. Now I have brownies cooling and 20 or so lollies in the fridge all wrapped up in wax paper.
Thanks for the pics Dez, I did believe you honest!!! I have never grown shrooms but have eaten a few in my day.

We went for a trip to Maastricht and they have 1000's of mile of underground tunnels there, all sandstone. It creates the perfect environment to grow truffels 11 degrees celcius.
We were told though on the tour, if you get lost, you will only survive for 4 days max as you get hypothermia and die. Basically your body sweats and this makes your clothes wet, then this in turn chills your body and kills you!!! The locals use to hide from the Frenchies down these tunnels back in the day, they use to take their cattle and animals down there, they managed to build kilns and subsequently heated there clothes on the kilns so they would not die!!! Anyway, I digress....

The girls have really blown up Wally, nice work, good TLC!!!!

Wow wally your plants have blown up bro! Is the mantis egg still chillin?

DST and McPurp those are some beautiful pics :-)

I'v missed several pages since I was out of town so I got lots of reading to do!!! lol
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/1271984d1289944333-club-600-19.jpg
That was the pic I liked as well, hehe.....

Buddy came through today on that t8 fixture :-P. Here's a couple pics of it and in case the 'pics or it didn't happen' crew rolls through, here's a pic of my brownies and lollies too, LOL.

I got 4 bulbs @ 6500K and 2 @ 3000K for it.
Yummy, brownies!!!!

Is that the secret to your success? I keep my girls under the 600. Your plants look good.

:peace:
cof
it is. Cannabis under, Kai's over. dont tell any one, shhhh. Gracias ol'farts
Haha, you pair....I think after 250 pages and 10,000 posts, everyone knows about 600's now, and if they don't they ain't even worth thinking about, haha.

What goin on people I am very excited because its that time after 2 months HARVEST! Right now I started off flushing with PH'd water n some Purple Maxx about five gallons, then as the plants soak it up I add just plain PH'd water. The canopy is WAAY smaller this time, I cut down the veg time and I literally got 500 gms of shake. I cant really complain, I made it into honey oil, then into gummies haha. All the buds in this grow are nice and dense no shake here at all. Next grow same thing, I really don't need all that bud and it pretty hard to maintain, this grow was Hella easy and low all the buds look amazing! Gonna take some night pics when I find out how to use the camera lol.
Thanks for the share Jamexican......get those finger warm up exercises going my bru!!!

Hey bros thought id drop a couple pics.. Dogs rooting like mad:-P


Look how fast them roots are growing. :bigjoint: May have these ladies in the scrog by this weekend.


Dogs and headbands kickin it with the yins round the 600

Slow progress but once everthing gets its groove on it will be a scrog that puts out a crop every 60-90 days. That suits me just fine. :weed:

well see how well the roots have developed by the weekend. Im thinking they should be long enough for the transplant into the hydro buckets.

:peace: 1BMM​
DOGs kickin it with the YINs!!!! Love it.

Hey you guys ever use lights perhaps cfls under the canopy for extra light for lower buds
Yup, again, just a trade off between how much extra light you get and how much heat is created....it's all about tuning your space in.

Here's some pics of the t8 installed over the rearranged shelf units and some Afgan bud porn and a PURPLE HAZE sprout. ahahahaha...

The Afgan Kush girls are either 4 or 5 weeks of 12/12 now, I don't remember for sure and don't feel like going to check.
Looking good Dez.

This is so tasty it needed a page bump

:peace:
cof
Many thanks me old partner!!!

Hey guys, hope you all have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace and love from the 600

DST
 

mr west

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dpq f2's I belive i have a couple of dozen of them from my last seed run, they are lovely and fat and stripey like quails eggs also some deep chosis f2's im itching to crack. Gotta see wot happens with the clones i got first tho make sure i dont keep over crowding myself.
 

Hotsause

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Sigh so my Iced Grapefruits have Powdery Mildew I HAVE NO IDEA HOW my Road Runner BB Dwarf and Purple Urkle were all fine i think its Me and Hydro= PM. As of now i might become strictly Soil or switch from this 10 Gallon tote with 2 Plants to Single 5 Gallons either way i will not be using a 10 gallon tote anymore it gets way to crowded and both time i ended up with PM but all my soil plants were fine once again(Repeat of first grow)

Edit: Question What are good Nutes for Soil?
I already Have Cal Mag and Liquid Karma whats a good Base nute(Like GH 3 Part) and some other things i should grab?(Soil Moisture Tester, Soil PH tester???? Things like that)
 

Dezracer

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tested out the lollies last night and they're excellent, best yet. They're bigger than the others but I'm not sure that's why since my tolerance has gone up a bit since I last made them and I got a better high from eating one last night. Tonight I'll be eating me some brownies. Giggidy, giggidy...
 

streets

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someone before asked what was the difference with t12, t8, and t 5... well t12 are huge bulbs, t8 are smaller and t5 are the smallest... the smaller the light becomes seems to give out more lumens.. i use t8 for all my vegging needs and havent seen any reason why i would wanna switch from a $112 light from Home depot to a $250 dollar t5 from the hydro store... rip offs i tell you, thats all it is
 

DST

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Hey HS, I use BioNova, I find them excellent quality organic nutrients. I have also used Plagron, and Canna, also both excellent ranges of products. The BN base product I use is called Supermix I think (5-2-4 npk), or in Dutch the label is BN Grond...

I am using silinal for PM, seems like it's the PM season around my way...grrr.
 

mr west

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its been pm all year round for me its only now i think im winning lol must have a good look wen the lights come on
 

Dezracer

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someone before asked what was the difference with t12, t8, and t 5... well t12 are huge bulbs, t8 are smaller and t5 are the smallest... the smaller the light becomes seems to give out more lumens.. i use t8 for all my vegging needs and havent seen any reason why i would wanna switch from a $112 light from Home depot to a $250 dollar t5 from the hydro store... rip offs i tell you, thats all it is
The t5 bulbs don't seem to give off more lumens than a t8 unless you go with HO t5. That's what the hydro shops sell mostly and Home Depot only sells the reg ones. I have a couple HO t5 fixtures but I only paid the extra for them because I had a small space to work with and wanted as intense of light as I could get in there without heating the place up like crazy. Now I have a much larger space and am opnly using one of the little HO t5 fixtures over my humidity dome. The 6 lamp t8 fixture is giving my vegging plants their light now since the t5 lights don't cover the area that the plants take up.

How far above the plants do you keep your t8? I'm still trying to get that figured out since I don't want them to stretch too much but don't want to overheat them either.
 

ZEN MASTER

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someone before asked what was the difference with t12, t8, and t 5... well t12 are huge bulbs, t8 are smaller and t5 are the smallest... the smaller the light becomes seems to give out more lumens.. i use t8 for all my vegging needs and havent seen any reason why i would wanna switch from a $112 light from Home depot to a $250 dollar t5 from the hydro store... rip offs i tell you, thats all it is
right on, i bought a six light t8 fixture on clearance at Home Depot for $24.95+tax, and two t12 fixtures for 9.99+tax each. with the bulbs, i think i was out of about $65-70 bucks, and im getting 28,700 lumens. thats about 1k lumens less than a $150 ballast, a $100 air-cooled hood, and $100 bulb="AROUND" $350.
i just wish more people would get out and look around and understand that lowe's and home depot can be your best friend, because the guy at the hydro store may be cool as hell and seem to have "your" best interest in mind, but you better believe he sure isnt going to tell you that you can go somewhere and get that same 10,000 btu air conditioner for about $150 bucks less, or instead of $14 for a Y duct connector, you can get it for $6, and so on. so yea the hydro stores have all of what we need to do what we do, but so do other places, at better prices.
BUT NEVER BUY BULBS FROM HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

Dezracer

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The t8 fixture I got Home Depot sells for $79 with no bulbs and the bulbs I got are rated at a total of just over 17000 lumens.

The two 2', 4 lamp HO t5 fixtures I have are rated to produce 8,000 each so for the $200 I spent for the pair I get 16,000 lumens. The Home Depot one seems like a better deal right there but I can already tell a difference in heat in the veg room by running the one t8 versus the two t5s. It's a few degrees warmer in there this morning and I was only running the t8 overnight so I could get a good reading on temp difference.
 

ZEN MASTER

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why not buy bulbs there? Is there something different about them?
they are not horticultural grade. they give out pretty much the same amount of lumens, but they are made for lighting areas. not like the higher end grow bulbs(Hortilux, Sunmaster, etc.) that are geared specifically for growing. the ones from home depot and lowe's may have the same kelvin temp, 6500k for the MH for example, but it doesnt provide the correct amount of blue needed to grow successful growth. same with the sodium, the temp is the same 2700K, but it doesnt give enough red light for successful buds. it was like an awakening when i first decided to stop being cheap on my bulbs and get a real "GROW" and "FLOWERING" bulb. but yea, the short answer is they just dont grow "good" plants, period.
now as far as the flourescents, the t8's, and t12's are vegging just fine. i really cant comment on the t5's because ive never used them.
hope that kinda explains what i meant.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

JimmyT

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The lumens you get from HO T5s are unmatched compared to regular T5, T8, and T12s. It's just better light quality hands down and almost as good as MH.

The only issue with lighting, when it comes to the veg stage, is that the more you increase the "quality" the more heat you introduce to your veg area. I'm running both HO T5 (4' - eight bulbs) and T8. The T5 setup is producing way more heat than my eight T8s. WAY MORE! I keep the T5s 8"-10" above the canopy with a fan running air across the bulbs. Meanwhile, the T8s are about 1"-2" above the canopy with cooling coming from the veg-room oscillating fan (Dezracer, that should answer your curiosity):leaf:
 

Dezracer

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The lumens you get from HO T5s are unmatched compared to regular T5, T8, and T12s. It's just better light quality hands down and almost as good as MH.

The only issue with lighting, when it comes to the veg stage, is that the more you increase the "quality" the more heat you introduce to your veg area. I'm running both HO T5 (4' - eight bulbs) and T8. The T5 setup is producing way more heat than my eight T8s. WAY MORE! I keep the T5s 8"-10" above the canopy with a fan running air across the bulbs. Meanwhile, the T8s are about 1"-2" above the canopy with cooling coming from the veg-room oscillating fan (Dezracer, that should answer your curiosity):leaf:
I wonder why this t8 is producing more heat than the t5s were. There were 8 of the 2', 4 lamp HO t5 bulbs running in the same space I have 6 of the 4' t8 bulbs running and it was cooler in there with the t5s. Maybe the ballasts? There's 2 electronic ballasts in this one fixture as opposed to one in a lot of t8 fixtures. There's no noticeable extra heat around the plants either, it seems to just be above the light. The room was noticeably warmer but it was about the same at the plant height as with the t5s. The thermometer that's at plant level indicated only 1 degree so it could be anything and I now put one above the light on the wall to see what it reads tomorrow morning. I'll obviously see it before tomorrow but I will take note of what it says at the same tomorrow morning to get a good comparison. I'll turn the t5 off again too and put CFLs over the dome outside the room like I did last night.
 

DST

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Trichs are pretty clear in some areas of the buds? Did you get a close look at them.
There are two different types of plants there and both are showing signs of amber, a lot of cloudy, and a lot of clear as well, since they have another 4 days from when that shot was taken before chopping they wil be perfect for me....and I will include a bit of dark time, which I have stopped of late but have decided after further reading to resume.
The CJ is a fairly potent weed, and I enjoy the energy high I get from it, so I don't want it to turn into a sit me down on my arse kind of smoke.....As for the DPQ (the lower close up shots), her seeds are ripening fine and she can get cut when needs be, but she'll just be getting water from now until I see one of em stripey mofo's popping itself out like an excited .......!! Anyway, I hope I cleared up your scepticism.....

Looking nice all the way.
And thanks NLNo5, appreciate the visit.

Cheers,

DST
 

Dezracer

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they are not horticultural grade. they give out pretty much the same amount of lumens, but they are made for lighting areas. not like the higher end grow bulbs(Hortilux, Sunmaster, etc.) that are geared specifically for growing. the ones from home depot and lowe's may have the same kelvin temp, 6500k for the MH for example, but it doesnt provide the correct amount of blue needed to grow successful growth. same with the sodium, the temp is the same 2700K, but it doesnt give enough red light for successful buds. it was like an awakening when i first decided to stop being cheap on my bulbs and get a real "GROW" and "FLOWERING" bulb. but yea, the short answer is they just dont grow "good" plants, period.
now as far as the flourescents, the t8's, and t12's are vegging just fine. i really cant comment on the t5's because ive never used them.
hope that kinda explains what i meant.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
Got ya, I thought you were refferring to the flouros too. That's where I was confused. I use horticultural HPS bulbs in my 600s but the flouros are HD specials baby...
 
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