My Growitup Greenhouse Grow 2010

[IAm5toned]

OK, I moved the pot.
I know some of you (like myself) wanted to see if the root system was contained to the smart pot.
Keep in mind this was over seven feet tall and the pot is about a foot tall.
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closer,​

As far as I can see, It did!

Sure there a few small roots in the soil but the mass was contained to the pot.
I'll never use a regular pot again. These are the 10 gallon size and I bet they will grow a 10 foot tall plant.
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duly noted... thank u v=for this very valuable lesson

 

[Easy420forme]

now you know if it's on the dirt the roots won't get bound up either keep growing or get pruned.

Yeah the smart pot wont air prune it it's sitting there wet against the soil... it continues to grow out. big ass tree needed to

 

[cruzer101]

cruz you dont want to run the c02 at night. the plant produces c02 at night and need oxygen. use the c02 during the day. when using c02 its ok to be about 80 - 82 . i suggest doing the c02 gas at sunrise.

Gotcha, thanks for the info.
I just checked and the temps will be around 80° tomorrow then dropping from there to the low 70's.
The temps in the greenhouse without ventilation will be 10 or 15° hotter. I'll go ahead and seal her up tomorrow afternoon and gas them at sunrise... I even like the sound of that.

 

[bigcheese510]

Gotcha, thanks for the info.
I just checked and the temps will be around 80° tomorrow then dropping from there to the low 70's.
The temps in the greenhouse without ventilation will be 10 or 15° hotter. I'll go ahead and seal her up tomorrow afternoon and gas them at sunrise... I even like the sound of that.

yea im planning on getting a c02 generator bucket tomorrow. theyre supposed to last 70 - 90 days depending on the flow you set it at. figured that would be the best for me seeing im air cooling my light and ejecting the hot air. if i was sealed i would go with the tanks. cant wait to do some major upgrading

 

[2closetgrowers]

I still got my bet on 16 oz. Man o man this is exciting, get to watch a great grow and i don't have to do all the trimming

 

[WWShadow]

Gotcha, thanks for the info.
I just checked and the temps will be around 80° tomorrow then dropping from there to the low 70's.
The temps in the greenhouse without ventilation will be 10 or 15° hotter. I'll go ahead and seal her up tomorrow afternoon and gas them at sunrise... I even like the sound of that.

Actually the amount of CO2 released by the plant at night or during the dark cycle is of an insignificant amount, Growers release CO2 while the exhaust fans are off so it stays with the plants. Anyway the CO2 released isn't becasue the atmosphere needs CO2. it is the plant expelling waste by products. Atmospheric CO2 levels have no effect on the plants release of waste by products.
I had to read up on that because in school (many years ago) I was taught plants need CO2 & release O2. No one ever said they release CO2.
I didn't know you could use CO2 to kill insects. I'm gonna put that on my research list for later. G'luck with the extermination!!

 

[cruzer101]

I used the internet to do a little research on the subject and found there are two separate things.
First is daytime photosynthesis where the plants uses the co2 and produces o2. The second thing is respiration where the plant uses o2 as well as co2. Here's a quote.

"Plants consume CO2 in the process of photosynthesis and convert it to sugar. Oxygen is a waste product of this reaction, in that water is split to form hydrogen and oxygen. The plant uses the hydrogen to produce ATP. This process is only occuring in the day when there is light. However, at all times, the plant is respiring, just like people. They need oxygen for the metabolic process and produce CO2 as a waste product."
Source(s):

PhD in botany, and taught it for 7 years.


So I look into respiration,

"Cellular respiration (process that uses oxygen to break sugar into energy for life functions) and photosynthesis (green plants converting sunlight energy into sugars using water and carbon dioxide) are distinct and separate processes. Animals only use cellular respiration. Plants do not have muscles and the other functions necessary in animals functioning that require a high levels of oxygen. Plants also CAN NOT take the energy directly for their energy needs from photosynthesis. Photosynthesis produces a far greater amount of oxygen and sugars, etc. then the small amount the plant requires to produce its energy needs. OK - but only during the day when the sun light is available! During the night, the plant actually uses oxygen it has left over from the daylight photosynthesis or takes the oxygen from the air surrounding the plant to meet its energy needs. This is not nearly the amount of oxygen an animal needs over the same period of time."

Question, Do plants use o2? If so when and how. (yahoo answers)

Yes, all green or vascular plants consume oxygen all the time. Green plants release oxygen through photosynthesis but they still consume oxygen at the same time. The primary way plants use oxygen is through their root cells. In order for a plant to take up water and nutrients from the soil, it must continually grow new root hairs. The cells that make up these hairs are living cells that do not carry out photosynthesis. They are similar to the cells of animals in that they require oxygen and give off carbon dioxide as they burn carbohydrates to obtain the energy they need to function. This is why you can "drown" a house plant by watering it too much. If the soil gets too saturated with water, the plants root cells can't get enough oxygen from the air. There are vascular plants such as cypress trees and cattails that are adapted to living in saturated soil. These plants have root hairs that grow out of the stems above the soil and/or water surface so that they can take in oxygen.

It sounds to me like its primarily the roots that absorb o2 and a few hours with a high amount of co2 at the canopy shouldn't hurt them. I still think gassing them at sunrise is best but I just thought I would share that.

 

[WWShadow]

cool, knock'em dead man!!

 

[bigcheese510]

nobody i know that uses c02 runs it at night. check your c02 levels at night and it will probably be around 700ppm as during the day it will be around 300ppm. roots always need oxygen thats why we worry bout airation in or soils or mediums when we plant right? looks like you do youre homework cruz. keep up the good work .

you going to post dry pics of the blue dream? i got 1 going right now at day 16 or 17 of flower.

 

[Easy420forme]

Wow, now that was an education. Sweet, thanks for dropping the knowledge. Makes perfect sense on not over watering hurts the plant. It sounds as if they don't need hardly any water. I heard someone today analogies to say, treat cannabis like a cactus. So assume the water keeps the soil moist so the roots can move but the plant does not consume it... just needs and environment it can easily slide around it to expand?

I should let you borrow my mother in law... she could sit in your greenhouse and produce a ton of CO2 as she never stops talking.

Her perfume may even keep the bugs out.. does me.

peace

 

[bigcheese510]

Wow, now that was an education. Sweet, thanks for dropping the knowledge. Makes perfect sense on not over watering hurts the plant. It sounds as if they don't need hardly any water. I heard someone today analogies to say, treat cannabis like a cactus. So assume the water keeps the soil moist so the roots can move but the plant does not consume it... just needs and environment it can easily slide around it to expand?

I should let you borrow my mother in law... she could sit in your greenhouse and produce a ton of CO2 as she never stops talking.

Her perfume may even keep the bugs out.. does me.

peace

you do want your soil to dry out a little bit but not completely. roots go searching for water and thats how they spread out. if the roots are always in a water logged soil theyll just sit there and will become prone to root rot and other root zone diseases. i give my girls 2 liters of water with nutes for a weekly feeding and 1 liter of ph balanced water every day ( if needed ) untill next feeding

 

[cruzer101]

you going to post dry pics of the blue dream? i got 1 going right now at day 16 or 17 of flower.

Yea sure, Like before I cut the buds to weigh or after I'm done.

I should let you borrow my mother in law... she could sit in your greenhouse and produce a ton of CO2 as she never stops talking.
Her perfume may even keep the bugs out.. does me.
peace

Does she know how to trim?

you do want your soil to dry out a little bit but not completely. roots go searching for water and thats how they spread out. if the roots are always in a water logged soil theyll just sit there and will become prone to root rot and other root zone diseases. i give my girls 2 liters of water with nutes for a weekly feeding and 1 liter of ph balanced water every day ( if needed ) untill next feeding

Yea being a hydro guy I think of it as humidity in the root zone is what your shooting for.
Ya know, I was adjusting the ph down to 6.5 for there water cycle as well as the feeding but I stopped a month or so.
They been getting PH 7.5 the last month and a half and it hasn't phased them. I stopped nutes 2 weeks ago and thats the last time they saw ph 6.5 anything.

 

[Easy420forme]

you do want your soil to dry out a little bit but not completely. roots go searching for water and thats how they spread out. if the roots are always in a water logged soil theyll just sit there and will become prone to root rot and other root zone diseases. i give my girls 2 liters of water with nutes for a weekly feeding and 1 liter of ph balanced water every day ( if needed ) untill next feeding

wow, everyday? I thought most people were like every third day or so. guess what matters is the what the plants wants... it's alive after all. Thanks

 

[Easy420forme]

Yea sure, Like before I cut the buds to weigh or after I'm done.


Does she know how to trim?



Yea being a hydro guy I think of it as humidity in the root zone is what your shooting for.
Ya know, I was adjusting the ph down to 6.5 for there water cycle as well as the feeding but I stopped a month or so.
They been getting PH 7.5 the last month and a half and it hasn't phased them. I stopped nutes 2 weeks ago and thats the last time they saw ph 6.5 anything.

I thought you want the pH around 6.0 to 6.5?

 

[HowzerMD]

Does she know how to trim?



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This made me chuckle

 

[Easy420forme]

This made me chuckle

Waht's funny is, I'd send her to cali if I thought she could. LOL

 

[HowzerMD]

Waht's funny is, I'd send her to cali if I thought she could. LOL

Cheap, organic Co2 generator and automatic trimmer in one .. AND it talks.

 

[mrgreenlungz]

you do want your soil to dry out a little bit but not completely. roots go searching for water and thats how they spread out. if the roots are always in a water logged soil theyll just sit there and will become prone to root rot and other root zone diseases. i give my girls 2 liters of water with nutes for a weekly feeding and 1 liter of ph balanced water every day ( if needed ) untill next feeding

I germed April 22 with 100% germ, got 3 males from 6 reg seeds plus 5 fem seeds. We had a very cold spring slowing down growth pretty bad and I managed a 10 ft plant the only time we watered every day was in the blistering heat of summer where temps easily hit 105 or higher. other than that, we let them go until bone dry (not dying, just dry as fuck) and sometimes they went a little too long. maybe your plants are monsters and need a liter a day, but chances are not imho. here's a few of the 10 footer from the grow journal. The 1 with stumps is about a week - week and a half old the other 2 are ones he brought over yesterday. My friend, I politely disagree with you.

 

[riddleme]

Yeah I have to say watering everyday is a bad practice and not hatin just puttin it out there for the new growers readin this

 

[bigcheese510]

I germed April 22 with 100% germ, got 3 males from 6 reg seeds plus 5 fem seeds. We had a very cold spring slowing down growth pretty bad and I managed a 10 ft plant the only time we watered every day was in the blistering heat of summer where temps easily hit 105 or higher. other than that, we let them go until bone dry (not dying, just dry as fuck) and sometimes they went a little too long. maybe your plants are monsters and need a liter a day, but chances are not imho. here's a few of the 10 footer from the grow journal. The 1 with stumps is about a week - week and a half old the other 2 are ones he brought over yesterday. My friend, I politely disagree with you.

3 plants in 3 gal pots sharing a liter of water a day is too much? maybe i forgot to mention thats what the 3 were sharing. and watering is done when need which i did state. im assuming those are in the ground where the moisture is present without you watering. im indoor in pots where the only moisture in my root zone is added by me. you can say im wrong and im fine with that just stating what works for me.