dnkfrmthasoilz7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90&feature=sub check it out learn it, live it.
ORGANICS vs SYNTHS i couldn't said it better myself
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dnkfrmthasoilz7
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bump someone needs to view this
wyteberrywidow
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Good vid.I watched the whole thing.He basically shits on mother nature.
Weedoozie
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He does basically shit on mother nature and says a bunch of stuff about how science makes man better than nature and what not but he's neglecting to mention that science is the study of nature. Without all of nature, none of this would be. Just because we have learned how to make the optimal situations for growing Cannabis doesn't mean we outsmarted nature, growers have just recently shifted their methods more towards indoors and organics don't work as well in unnatural growing conditions (indoors vs. outdoors).
Plus, this dude is talking about hydro. OF course organics aren't going to work as well as synthetics in hydro! Organics work well because they feed the micro bacterium in the soils the plants grow in. Hydro is without soil and without micro bacteria so synthetic makes up for that with the unnatural chemicals that boost growth/flowering. Organic wins outdoors with organic soils, compost, beneficial micro bacteria, and sunlight.
Plus, this dude is talking about hydro. OF course organics aren't going to work as well as synthetics in hydro! Organics work well because they feed the micro bacterium in the soils the plants grow in. Hydro is without soil and without micro bacteria so synthetic makes up for that with the unnatural chemicals that boost growth/flowering. Organic wins outdoors with organic soils, compost, beneficial micro bacteria, and sunlight.
stonedmetalhead1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90&feature=sub check it out learn it, live it.
How many times are you going to post this? Is this your vid? Are you just looking for people who agree with you? Except for the part about hydro growing faster and having better yields this guy is completely wrong. He has no scientific bases for the statements he makes. He just says he does and doesn't back it up. This guy goes as far as to say not to question science and how man is so superior when in fact people cause more problems than anything because we don't fully understand the repercussions of our actions due to the fact that we don't know everything. Science is in no way perfect.
Weedoozie
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I agree with you! Well put
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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i just want to put a logical point of view out there that is on video because more info can be spread through video than txt, sue me
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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you can use organics in hydro and synths in soil. synths come out on top 90% of the time. . .
Illumination
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Ions are ions...plants do not care if they come from s$%T or labs... the labs make it alot "cleaner" than animal guts do...my 2 cents
This organic stuff is IMHHO ludicrous ...
Namaste'
stonedmetalhead1
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It's fine if you want to put a point of view out there but that vid is a horrible example. The guy doesn't back up any of his theory with proof, he just talks out his ass.
Using organics in hydro is not the same as growing in a well built organic soil and not every organic soil is the same. There are so many variables to consider that this guy didn't take into account it's not funny. I understand that you can use chem ferts in soil but why would you? You wouldn't be getting any of the benefit of the soil and you would get all of the cons.
That is an uninformed generalized opinion and doesn't mean anything. Where did you get your data for this statistic? I'd love to know.
Ions are ions...plants do not care if they come from s$%T or labs... the labs make it alot "cleaner" than animal guts do...my 2 cents
This organic stuff is IMHHO ludicrous ...
Namaste'
You sir are completely wrong, the source of nutrients plays a huge part on the final product. Organic is just natural, it's not ludicrous. What's ludicrous is everyone using chemical fertilizers even though they have a huge impact on our environment.
I can get better results from chem ferts in soil no doubt but the cost is in the hundreds, or i can make a organic soil and use all organic material and spend $50 without cutting corners, and having almost Identical yields without worrying about dialling in nute levels and burning plants.
not really a hard choice, organics win for me because I can only tend my plants 1 time a week and offer me the greatest safety and best results.
not really a hard choice, organics win for me because I can only tend my plants 1 time a week and offer me the greatest safety and best results.
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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it may be a generalization but it is a generalization that more people than not make so there is something to be said about that. beneficial ecosystems can be used in coco coir ( hydro ) as well so the way i see it man made "chems" work better over all and can be applied to more growing techniques.
stonedmetalhead1
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What are you talking about? For the most part people that know anything about weed know that organics are for head stash and hydro is for wholesale. I guarantee you won't find a breeder that says he grows in hydro for personal smoke.
Just because you don't have a green thumb when it comes to organics doesn't make chem ferts better. Chem ferts might make a plant grow faster and bigger but that doesn't mean the end products is the same quality.
Illumination
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You do whatever you wish with your plants...synthetics serve me well and are cheaper and easier ....But I am not wrong sir ...u r confused so play with your poop n pee and I will use clean chems...And both of us can enjoy what we do
Namaste'
stonedmetalhead1
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Key words: serves me, cheaper, easier
For your information growing organic is way cheaper.
....But I am not wrong sir ...u r confused so play with your poop n pee and I will use clean chems...And both of us can enjoy what we do
Namaste'
You are wrong if you think the quality is the same.
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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test's show side by side synths have more potency and almost all the growers i know that use synths smoke their own buds you really aren't saying anything based on fact just more opinion. . .
stonedmetalhead1
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I said breeders, I don't care if you and your friends smoke chemically grown weed. Show me these test results and the data on how each sample was produced. I'm not saying you can't produce potent weed in hydro. I'm saying the all around quality is better in organic soil. Flavor plays a big part in the overall quality of herb and hydro just can't produce the deep natural flavors that dirt can.
DownOnWax
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Seriously, what tests are you talking about?
How about showing some sort of proof rather than adding to this argument ENTIRELY based on opinion.
Weedoozie
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Once again, I agree with you. Every point you made, I was about to go ahead and mention but you've done all the hard work
Yes, I'd like to know the answers as well.
Beneficial MICRO BACTERIA is your friend in organics people.
homebrewer
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Someone has posted this guy's vids before. He just likes to hear himself talk. What was the point of the video anyways? It's not like he was doing a side-by-side test, and even if he was, it's not 'new news' that synthetics make plants perform better because of their availability to the roots. The flip side is that you can burn your plants to death with synthetics and can't with organics.
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