Deficient or burnt?

TheRuiner

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fyi...that is a correct way to feed ur plants and should normally be taken
i suggested the feed,water,feed cycle because ur plant is hungry and there was nothing in the soil,after it levels out go back to the other cycle
and if u dont see improvements,dont be afraid to step it up a notch.....ur plant should be able to take more than 1/2 strength
just dont overdo it or u will have the same problem
How will i know when it's leveled out? and when you say go back to the other cycle do you mean feed/water/water/feed? I ask because my initial routine was to feed/water/feed like everyone (even the directions from FF) says to do.
 

moash

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How will i know when it's leveled out? and when you say go back to the other cycle do you mean feed/water/water/feed? I ask because my initial routine was to feed/water/feed like everyone (even the directions from FF) says to do.
its leveled out when ur problems stop
yes i mean the feed,water,water,feed......
when u feed,water,feed, there is more buildup
with the other way,there isnt....
u have to do what works for u,not what "everyone says to do";-)
 

TheRuiner

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its leveled out when ur problems stop
yes i mean the feed,water,water,feed......
when u feed,water,feed, there is more buildup
with the other way,there isnt....
u have to do what works for u,not what "everyone says to do";-)
Ok man, I'll be thrilled if I can get things to even out, I would just love to see things stop getting progressively worse, it kills me to think about how much of a hit these beautiful buds are taking while I'm trying to figure out what she's trying to tell me...
 

TheRuiner

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The current view of the wreckage...

fed again this morning, anxious to see what she looks like in another 36 hours...
 

TheRuiner

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Here's what I'm seeing, the leaves start to go yellow but not in the veins, very suddenly afterward the entire leaf goes yellow and them becomes brown and brittle ending up like the one pictured, doing so from the outside in, not always from the tips either. Dark spots and limited amounts of the issue just mentioned plague the upper growth, is it possible for this plant to be so hungry that it would act this way on the amount that I'm feeding it? Could it just be begging for 1500ppm's of the hard stuff, or are my 600-700 ppm lunchable size feedings plenty for a plant this size, or maybe at least enough to keep it from being this deficient?!?
 

karmeron

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Sounds exactly the same, i have just given my second big feed, still not seeing ANY difference, either good or bad :( I'll have to try a flush on the weekend if i havent seen any improvement by then :(
 

TheRuiner

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Sounds exactly the same, i have just given my second big feed, still not seeing ANY difference, either good or bad :( I'll have to try a flush on the weekend if i havent seen any improvement by then :(
I flushed but I think I flushed the soil so well that they got worse, some nutes even if some of them are locked out are better then no nutes at all i guess, my plant really went down hill after I flushed and went back to square one, I don't know now If I'm underfeeding or if I'm still seeing nute lockout and deficiency. I'm guessing that it is deficiency due to lack of food
 

cerberus

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a month into the problem and your still stuck on it being a feeding issue huh?

are you keeping notes? so you can look back a few days/week and see what you did and what happened. at least it can be a good learning curve for ya.
 

karmeron

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I flushed but I think I flushed the soil so well that they got worse, some nutes even if some of them are locked out are better then no nutes at all i guess, my plant really went down hill after I flushed and went back to square one, I don't know now If I'm underfeeding or if I'm still seeing nute lockout and deficiency. I'm guessing that it is deficiency due to lack of food
sounds the most likely since you have already flushed. If yours nose-dived after the flush, makes me reluctant to try it :( what did you feed immidiatley after the flush? or did you just leave it for a few days then feed?
 

TheRuiner

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a month into the problem and your still stuck on it being a feeding issue huh?

are you keeping notes? so you can look back a few days/week and see what you did and what happened. at least it can be a good learning curve for ya.
I'm keeping a 3 detailed journals with every drop of water and every ppm and ph you could ask for, yea, if nothing else this will be something I can chalk up to exp when I'm all done... i think doing a Thai Super Skunk for my first indoor grow was a little ballsy/stupid, but I think I'm really gonna enjoy the smoke I get from it when I'm all done, I can already tell that even with the issues I'm having with this plant that it's going to yield me some awesome buds.
 

TheRuiner

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sounds the most likely since you have already flushed. If yours nose-dived after the flush, makes me reluctant to try it :( what did you feed immidiatley after the flush? or did you just leave it for a few days then feed?
If something is wrong a flush is a good idea, I'll reluctantly say that my issue is not normal, I'm just the lucky type of guy that if something can go wrong it just might....
About the time I flushed I was going 3 days between watering/feeding her, i waited until 3 days after the flush to feed her extremely lightly again, about the same time that she needed to go to let the dirt dry out again...
 

TheRuiner

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Looks worse still... all the fan leaves are going to fall of at this rate.

Also, I installed the fan speed controller on the exhaust fan and dialed it back a touch, I'll test it today to see if any smell is escaping, I don't think it will. I can see less pressure on the tent, so even if that wasn't the issue; check one more thing off the list.
Seems much more quite, if it doesn't hurt temps, I'm going to leave it like this...
 

TheRuiner

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it will continue to look worse until u give it the right amount of food
buds look yum though
Damn though man, you'd think if a plant where hungry and you were to pour a nice big sand which in it's lap that it would perk up and at least for a day or two regain some color and vigor, this girl had visibly yellower and falling off leaves in 48 hours... maybe next feed I really will step it up just to see what happens... give her like 1200ppm's, i don't want to shock the plant though....
 

karmeron

Active Member
Damn though man, you'd think if a plant where hungry and you were to pour a nice big sand which in it's lap that it would perk up and at least for a day or two regain some color and vigor, this girl had visibly yellower and falling off leaves in 48 hours... maybe next feed I really will step it up just to see what happens... give her like 1200ppm's, i don't want to shock the plant though....
I dont think it will shock it mate, thats what ive been doing for the last 2 feeds and no difference at all, no worse than it was.
 

moash

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Damn though man, you'd think if a plant where hungry and you were to pour a nice big sand which in it's lap that it would perk up and at least for a day or two regain some color and vigor, this girl had visibly yellower and falling off leaves in 48 hours... maybe next feed I really will step it up just to see what happens... give her like 1200ppm's, i don't want to shock the plant though....
you would think,but thats not how it is
what r ur ppm's right now? i would move it up about 200-250ppm from what u got now
 

TheRuiner

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you would think,but thats not how it is
what r ur ppm's right now? i would move it up about 200-250ppm from what u got now
Last feedings PPM's were 750, I gave her a what the schedule said but cut in half, plus a little cal-mag and a small shot of Grow.... she looks like hell, fan leaves looking worse everyday... buds have leaves sticking out of them with spots and discoloration all over them (most of them)
 

moash

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Last feedings PPM's were 750, I gave her a what the schedule said but cut in half, plus a little cal-mag and a small shot of Grow.... she looks like hell, fan leaves looking worse everyday... buds have leaves sticking out of them with spots and discoloration all over them (most of them)
ok,give her 3/4 of what the schedule says,calmag,but leave out the grow....
hopefully we can make it through the grow without having to chop early:-|
 
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