riptidefever
Member
u r probaly right my girls....i have invested 150$ in lights another 25 in splitters.. all i know is i have plenty of mason jars full with all i can handle
A statement to all you dissing cfl's!!
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darkdestruction420
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If your not going to act like an adult and keep attacking people maybe this isnt the right site for you......
assasinofyouth420
Well-Known Member
Damn. I didnt realize people were hating on CFLs that much.
When I started out I was growing from seed and using Miracle Grow and using a 150 HPS in a closet
NOW that I know better and am more educated
my signature has the full grow down below
all I am saying is give the guy a break, maybe what works for him is what he wants and thats cool.
Just understand that there is better and more efficient ways to get a better harvest and maybe help out other people in the process.
NOW that I know better and am more educated
my signature has the full grow down below
all I am saying is give the guy a break, maybe what works for him is what he wants and thats cool.
Just understand that there is better and more efficient ways to get a better harvest and maybe help out other people in the process.
riptidefever
Member
hey dark destruction,i thinks its not the site for you..r u that insecure that typed word affects you,,lol,,,get a life,, and my conditions and arrangment fit my needs and budget perfect,, and you are inccorect, i cannot get a hps,,or ventilation system, or all the expensive products you use,, I GET 9 OUNCES EVERY 8 WEEKS<< FOR 40$ a month,,what the hell is wrong with that..i live in a 1 bedroom house,,i think that is fine for a stage three cancer patient who has no money.
freddiemoney
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Come on...Why are you attacking me for stating my opinion on your thread? I'm doing it without attacking you or anyone else like a f*&king 8th Grader. Scientific BS? The amount of lumens that a light provides per watt is scientific BS? I'm glad that you're satisfied with your setup, but most of your arguments besides some temperature benefit make no sense and just seem to be incredibly defensive of your own setup. Two 400W lamps would use the same amount of power as your 20 bulbs. A 600 would use 25% less power than your current setup.
Why would you want to double your yield? Seriously? I don't know about you, but I'm trying to improve my grow with each attempt. You say that this is your first time, but in your first post you stated that it was your fourth with CFLs.
If I tried to smoke my dope when I still had 9oz from 24oz wet I think I'd be keeping the blowtorch ready to keep it burning.
Do you usually stand next to your plants holding the bulbs above them? I don't know how else falling asleep would make a light fall on them.
breakneck
Calyx LED
Exactly. +REP for the dank CFL nugs.
Quit hating on LED and CFL people...try it out instead.
Quit hating on LED and CFL people...try it out instead.
Yeah all i am saying is, i understand this lads frustration with some people on this site. i know other cflers who wont leave the cfl section because they are sick of asking a question about soil/nutes/etc and for some reason, being told they should be using a hps. theres no point in you saying "well use cfls if thats suitable for your grow, but you know, with a hps you can double your lumen output"
StealthGrowNinja
Active Member
thanks alot everyone for this post i got a few good laughs
freddiemoney
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I could understand his frustration too, but I think there's no point in coming on to start a thread calling a broad range of people idiots, telling them to shut the fuck up and to sit and spin in every post.
I'm more interested in finding out why he chose to set things up the way he did. He hasn't really said. He's said that he's a medical patient, so he shouldn't have to keep it as hush-hush as someone's who's not. It can't be price, since he's invested $175 in bulbs and splitters already, and it can't be power usage, since he's still running 840 watts in fluorescents. I'd have go with temperature and ventilation which go hand in hand. Other than this I can't think of a reason he'd go with CFL if he was planning on using 840 watts anyway. People can be fiercely defensive of something they've already bought and set up/used.
frenetic420
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your cfl setup sounds nice and like you said works for your needs.
However....If you ask any experience grower they will agree that you CAN grow potent buds under cfls.
However it is true that you would double your yield if using equivalent amount of power but with a HPS setup.
That being said if you were to use an HPS setup you would have to deal with exhaust and intake, which is difficult on a stealth closet grow. Its not so stealth when you have the loud hum of an inline fan and ducting around your grow.
So if i was in your situation i would USE cfls as well. there cheap and they work. but there not the best....
Here is my statement.
I mad an intial investment of a few thousand dollars for some top of the line everything. I run 2 600's in 2 3x3 trays with c02.
With my total cost per harvest is about 500. That includes electricty, nutes, c02, pest control, EVERYTHING. I harvest between 13-16 ounces every 4 weeks depending on the strain i grow. However when i harvest 13 its because im growing my delicious blackberry kush, not the biggest yielder.
so yea it cost a few thousand to start up but i made that back by my second harvest. So it cost me $500 every 8 weeks for about 2 pounds. and I know my buds are denser and bigger.
your statement is incorrect and invalid. Thank you
However....If you ask any experience grower they will agree that you CAN grow potent buds under cfls.
However it is true that you would double your yield if using equivalent amount of power but with a HPS setup.
That being said if you were to use an HPS setup you would have to deal with exhaust and intake, which is difficult on a stealth closet grow. Its not so stealth when you have the loud hum of an inline fan and ducting around your grow.
So if i was in your situation i would USE cfls as well. there cheap and they work. but there not the best....
Here is my statement.
I mad an intial investment of a few thousand dollars for some top of the line everything. I run 2 600's in 2 3x3 trays with c02.
With my total cost per harvest is about 500. That includes electricty, nutes, c02, pest control, EVERYTHING. I harvest between 13-16 ounces every 4 weeks depending on the strain i grow. However when i harvest 13 its because im growing my delicious blackberry kush, not the biggest yielder.
so yea it cost a few thousand to start up but i made that back by my second harvest. So it cost me $500 every 8 weeks for about 2 pounds. and I know my buds are denser and bigger.
your statement is incorrect and invalid. Thank you
riptidefever
Member
sorry freddie,, the light clamp fell from waht it was hanging on,, and i know exactly waht lumens i have on my plants,,each of my clfs has 2860. and what i said was this is my first time growing, but my 4 harvest,, all with the same clones off the original plants,, and once again,,you are WRONG>> my friend has two 600hps and his electrical doubles mine ..every month we compare. and why would i want more yeild? i do not make money, i have cancer and i grow my own to smoke and share,, and all i can say is none of my friends complain and my pathetic setup produces more stuff tahn i could ever afford and now i have endless suppply..and one more time,,you are incorrect, the cheapest hps i have found including ballast and all needed is between 2-250$ i have bought 150$ worth of cfl's? and i live in an old house so setting up a hps is dangerous and i do not need one,,and my stuff burns fine, slow,,and gets you rocked, once again what is wrong with cfl's
StealthGrowNinja
Active Member
im lost on this rip are u sayin 1000 watts of hid pulls more power then 1000w of cfl??? lmao
riptidefever
Member
no frenetic you are mistaken,, hps light are way to hot for my room,, and you are a drug dealer i am a private user, once again,,my buds smeel good, get me high as a kite, help my appetite.. and i have plenty to last me a lifetime i used to spend 150$ a week on an ounce which broke me x 52 weeks do the math,, i have harvested 4 times , and before my last harvest i still have 26 ounces total from 3 harvest on 4, 30 inch plants,,i have more stuff than i know what to do with ,for a total investment of 40 a month x 24 months plus initial cost to set up around 175$ so i have money in my checking account for the first time in years..
riptidefever
Member
no that is ridiculous to think, i know hps is double triple the strength,, my inital point was this,,,,i was told from the beginning i was waisting my time and money WHICH I HAVE PROVEN FALSE.. i have 26 ounces of mid grade to dank bud, sitting in mason jars, i have more on the way,,i would still be spending 600$ a month buying bag crap..i was told i would not yeild any kind of quality or good bud,,WHICH I HAVE PROVEN WRONG,,,my gripe was to the fellas who told me i would get a qaurter ounce a plant from cfl's,,
frenetic420
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you friend uses 1200 watts you use 840watts. Its probably doubled because he has additional venting, and he uses more general electricity than you (tv,oven,stove,etc). i pay roughly about 20c a killowatt.
you get 9 ounces every 8 weeks of 840 watts.
I get 32 ounces every 8 weeks of 1200 watts. (1500 with fans)
you do the math.....
9 ounces X 300 an ounce = 2,700 - $40 = 2,300
32 ounces X 300 an ounce= 9,600 - $500 =9,100
CFLS work fine and you get potent bud. BUT it is not even close to the efficiency of an HPS setup.
I would like to see a picture of your setup.
you get 9 ounces every 8 weeks of 840 watts.
I get 32 ounces every 8 weeks of 1200 watts. (1500 with fans)
you do the math.....
9 ounces X 300 an ounce = 2,700 - $40 = 2,300
32 ounces X 300 an ounce= 9,600 - $500 =9,100
CFLS work fine and you get potent bud. BUT it is not even close to the efficiency of an HPS setup.
I would like to see a picture of your setup.
frenetic420
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if you read my post again i AGREE with you that CFLS work fine! and that they work great in situations like yours where you dont want to deal with the heat and its all for personal supply.
I got upset because you make it seem like hps are a waste of time and that all growers claim cfls are crap. they work great in situations that heat control is an issue or you have limited space.
And to defend myself just because im more efficient and manage to yield more than you doesn't make me a drug dealer. I am a medical patient who provides to other medical users. I am in full compliance with state law and actually under my plant limits and dry weight limits. Im not the only medical patient in the household.
I got upset because you make it seem like hps are a waste of time and that all growers claim cfls are crap. they work great in situations that heat control is an issue or you have limited space.
And to defend myself just because im more efficient and manage to yield more than you doesn't make me a drug dealer. I am a medical patient who provides to other medical users. I am in full compliance with state law and actually under my plant limits and dry weight limits. Im not the only medical patient in the household.
StealthGrowNinja
Active Member
and how you gonna go and call someone a drug dealer??? thats rediculous..... maybe yeah some people sell ganja so the hell what. u gotta realize that not every state has medical and your hating on him for providing people with there medicine the only way they can get it.... not everyone gets the freedoms in this country u have.... and also pots not a drug
riptidefever
Member
i agree stealth im sorry..i do not need 32 ounces, i cant even smoke what i got,, but im so addicted to growing i cant stop..i apologize for the dealer refrence, for my space, budget and needs, i grow way more than i need..
stumpjumper
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Nothing wrong with that cola, but just for shits and giggles, mine is thicker and denser at 6 weeks under 157W of CFL... Truth.
HPS@ 7 weeks of 12.12