LED for VEG GROWTH

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crbruton

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Here's my thought process...I don't need an HPS for germination or veg. I NEED one for flowering. To buy a whole new hps or mh lamp just for veg would be crazy. Thats another $250-300. So an LED for veg is the smartest choice by far. Its cheaper than the whole hps/mh set up, not as hot, not as energy bill expensive, not as bulky, etc. Has anyone or does anyone plan to use an LED for their veg cycle? Even more specifically, a blue ufo led? I'd love to know anything about it you wish to tell me...other than how they don't work, are too expensive, blah blah blah. I plan to be using a blue ufo 90w led for veg within the month. Lets get this straightened out!bongsmilie:joint::eyesmoke:bongsmilie:joint::eyesmoke:bongsmilie:joint::eyesmoke:
 
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Matchbox

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I did exactly that, MH, HPS was more expensive than an LED so I ordered a UFO on friday, I'm gonna try and do my whole grow using LED once it arrives, you can get pretty high power LED lamps in red for blooming (I'm considering a 600w red LED waaay down the line)

I would have got one with a mix though because the plant still uses the red spectrums for veg growth, just not as much as the blue... I've also been advised that it is a good idea to supplement LED's with CFL's or fluoro tubes or other light source.

:) I think for Veg LED's are extremely effective, there are quite a few grows on here using LED's and it seems the plants love it!

You will get a lot of stick from people saying LED's are shit etc, etc but without experimentation how will anything ever advance.


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Matchbox

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For the experimentation really, most people who do LED grows just use UFO's which is probably why they say they get shite yields etc, My 1st grow I am probably gonna have to supplement my UFO heavily with other light but my second or 3rd will be full high power LED goodness.. plus they look really cool XD
 
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iscrog4food

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200 for a 90w ufo or 280 for a 1000 watt MH.....hmmmm. If you want to know why MH is better you can ask your girlfriend... she will tell you that "ITs all about penetration!" Led = no penetration. Dont get me wrong they are great for side lighting and maby once the tech advances on higher watt bulbs you can viably use them as primary. I see potential but unfortunately currently all the R and D is done on low watt leds. I would love for someone to prove me wrong by going strictly led but untill they do i will go with what is tried and true.
 
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Matchbox

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yeah they should probably bust out a bunch of 5w LED's in panels instead of the regular 1w or less ones... I completely agree with you though MH, HPS etc is the way to go for now, Just thought hey I might as well give it a go and see what happens, might get lucky if the lights concentrated enough on certain areas, might end up with fuck all smoke and it'll be lesson learned :)
 
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JUST GROW IT

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I'm growing LSD, Rocklock, and Cole Train, and I'll be using LED's but a 300w through my whole grow along with co2 and cash crop nutes. So will see how well they work.
 
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iscrog4food

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Matchbox said:
yeah they should probably bust out a bunch of 5w LED's in panels instead of the regular 1w or less ones... I completely agree with you though MH, HPS etc is the way to go for now, Just thought hey I might as well give it a go and see what happens, might get lucky if the lights concentrated enough on certain areas, might end up with fuck all smoke and it'll be lesson learned :)
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Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
 
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ninjagaiden

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hydrogrow LED would be the best bet. LED's get a lot of shit talked because a lot of LED panels deserve them. A lot of them are bunk. Chances are if you are buying off ebay you are getting a shit panel.

I just picked up 2x126w hydrogrow LED's. I have not seen any other company test against EVERYTHING including other LEDs companies.

And dont care too much what peopel say but...the HYDROGROWLED is the way to go for vegging. Faster - same growth rate, but tighter nodes.
 
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crbruton

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3 of the very same im gunna be growing in less than 2 weeks. lemme know about the LSD. im so curious as to how it is.
 
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crbruton

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ninja...are u using leds just for vegging? Im not sure why so many people think to test it out they should use it for all stages. at the veg phase im not looking for "penetration". the plants arent big enough or dense enough to even have to worry about that. im operating with a 3x3 veg box. 90w LED is PERFECT for that area...in theory until i can show yall the results. but im not gunna go crazy and say im flowering with leds. hellz no. im doing it correctly and flowering with a 600w adjust a wings hps with super spreader.
 
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Matchbox

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Those hydrogrow people look pretty good, I got mine from a company over here in the UK, CTLEDlights, they do a lot of research and develop their own lights and stuff for a reasonable price too.
 
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jargman

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Im using a 90 watt ufo and 2 150 watt CFL's for vegging which keeps my grow room at a stable 82 degrees. I know its not just LED's but I thought the people posting in this thread might find this interesting. As this is my first time using this combination, I do not know how they will turn out. I am going to use a 600 watt HPS for flowering though. Ill post more pics in a couple weeks when I put them in the flower room.

As you can see I have 4 plants growing in a homemade DWC setup. Im using advanced nutrients sensi grow a and b for veg. I think I burned the first two plants a little bit and that is why there growth is stunted but as you can see the one in the far left corner is doing, from what I can tell, very well. The plants have spent almost seven weeks vegging and the strain is blue dream. This is my first time fimming as well. The far left one has 5 colas, far right has two, front left has two, and front right has 3. Interesting how this happened, but Im not complaining.

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Denofearth69

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iscrog4food said:
200 for a 90w ufo or 280 for a 1000 watt MH.....hmmmm. If you want to know why MH is better you can ask your girlfriend... she will tell you that "ITs all about penetration!" Led = no penetration. Dont get me wrong they are great for side lighting and maby once the tech advances on higher watt bulbs you can viably use them as primary. I see potential but unfortunately currently all the R and D is done on low watt leds. I would love for someone to prove me wrong by going strictly led but untill they do i will go with what is tried and true.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. I am have been using 2-120W LED ( cost of $125 each ) panels mixed blue and red for the past 3.5 months and am very happy with the results, especially the veg stage. LEDs have amazing penetrating ability and bottoms of my plants are just as healthy as tops. Also, with LEDs plants internodal spacing is very short. I do enhance my LEDs with floros, but still these lights kick butt when you take into consideration that my electric bill has increased by a measly $40 a month ( what were you saying about cost effectiveness of MH and HPS? ), I have no heat issues, no need for the additional expense of ballasts, life expectancy of LEDs is 50,000 hours, and panels came with 3 year warranty. Oh, and I had a panel fall from three feet above floor and survive, what would happen to your HPS or MH? Whereas I agree this technology needs to and I predict will be fine tuned for maximum performance, as I had very little cash to start with, and low income to bring in first harvest, I am extremely satisfied with the results. Here are some pics.

View attachment 1046770 these are tow blueberry, with an MK ultra in the middle. This pic was at three weeks from seed.
View attachment 1046772 Carmelicious about two weeks into flower. For my flowering room I have two double tube floros, 1-120W LED panel, and two 14W red LED panels.
View attachment 1046773 I believe this pic of MK ultra is about 4 weeks from seed. Mk really liked the LEDs and grew at amazing rate. Though I was growing the blueberries and Mk to follow the Carmelicious in my flowering room, MK got so big so fast that I decided to put her in the ground to finish outdoors. I planted her bucket and all to prevent transplant shock. Here she is, and she began showing preflowers at only three weeks.
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crbruton

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Denofearth69 said:
You have no idea what you are talking about. I am have been using 2-120W LED ( cost of $125 each ) panels mixed blue and red for the past 3.5 months and am very happy with the results, especially the veg stage. LEDs have amazing penetrating ability and bottoms of my plants are just as healthy as tops. Also, with LEDs plants internodal spacing is very short. I do enhance my LEDs with floros, but still these lights kick butt when you take into consideration that my electric bill has increased by a measly $40 a month ( what were you saying about cost effectiveness of MH and HPS? ), I have no heat issues, no need for the additional expense of ballasts, life expectancy of LEDs is 50,000 hours, and panels came with 3 year warranty. Oh, and I had a panel fall from three feet above floor and survive, what would happen to your HPS or MH? Whereas I agree this technology needs to and I predict will be fine tuned for maximum performance, as I had very little cash to start with, and low income to bring in first harvest, I am extremely satisfied with the results. Here are some pics.

View attachment 1046770 these are tow blueberry, with an MK ultra in the middle. This pic was at three weeks from seed.
View attachment 1046772 Carmelicious about two weeks into flower. For my flowering room I have two double tube floros, 1-120W LED panel, and two 14W red LED panels.
View attachment 1046773 I believe this pic of MK ultra is about 4 weeks from seed. Mk really liked the LEDs and grew at amazing rate. Though I was growing the blueberries and Mk to follow the Carmelicious in my flowering room, MK got so big so fast that I decided to put her in the ground to finish outdoors. I planted her bucket and all to prevent transplant shock. Here she is, and she began showing preflowers at only three weeks.
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pictures didnt work. try again i wanna c them. sounds like the led is working quite well for you tho. what is the square footage of ur veg area? How many LEDs do u have over it and what wattage? And so you're using leds for flowering too? im beginning my op using fluorescents, LED, and a 600w hps in less than 2 weeks. Should have some wonderful results very soon to help support this "leds are awesome" theory.
 
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