KushisSweet
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yea man theres ur problem. its nute burn from overwatering.. now you know what not to do. ya live and ya learn just keep an eye on her and dont overwater.. good luck man.
1st Grow Yellowing Leaves - HELP PLEASE!!!
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TheCheef
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Yeah FF Ocean Forest
TheCheef
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Thanks bro, that helps a ton. Ive got some new pots now that drain better.
skunkushybrid01
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the plants need nutrients. Overwatering is different symptoms... similar but slightly different. there would be some droop to the leaves.
You cannot over fertilize a plant... it's impossible. You can over fertilize the medium, but not the actual plant. the plant will take what it needs. Give it some food. I don't know what a quarter cup of anything is... but i'd advise feeding at around 1.0EC.
You cannot over fertilize a plant... it's impossible. You can over fertilize the medium, but not the actual plant. the plant will take what it needs. Give it some food. I don't know what a quarter cup of anything is... but i'd advise feeding at around 1.0EC.
KiefCatcher
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When you water soil that's been pre-nuted, the water is what activates the nutes. So, overwatering the soil will release too much of the nutes. Thus resulting in this nute burn. But, she's still young and looks rather healthy despite the yellowing. I wouldn't lose any sleep over her. Good luck. 
skunkushybrid01
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the reason you cannot overfertilize a plant is due to a process called suberization. also down to the fact that the nutrient uptake process is an active one only. Carriers are sent to pick the nutrient ions up, if the plant doesn;t need the nutrients no carriers are sent. The available nutrient ions then wait around the root surface till they can be picked up. a lot happens around the rhizosphere that not much is known about too.
You cannot over fertilize a plant.
You cannot over fertilize a plant.
TheCheef
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Makes sense now, thanks for breakin it down for me.....When you water soil that's been pre-nuted, the water is what activates the nutes. So, overwatering the soil will release too much of the nutes. Thus resulting in this nute burn. But, she's still young and looks rather healthy despite the yellowing. I wouldn't lose any sleep over her. Good luck.
TheCheef
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Alright, Ive got all that. SO what happens if I had a new plant and I put a full dose of FF Grow Big right from the start? Not that I am, but what happens here? I cant over fert the plant, but I can over fert the soil? Wouldnt this burn my plant up as well??
KushisSweet
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yea i also dont get that... you can burn the plant from adding too much ferts... but you cant over feed? im confuusseedd
Soil has enough nutrients to grow a whole plant veg to flower. Anything other is a bonus
The theory of not being able to over fert a plant and only the soil doesnt make sense as to feed the plant you would need to supply it to the soil which therefore wouldnt matter if the soil was over ferted either.
Very contradicting plus ive read loads about over ferting, you sure your not taking your infomation from a wiki source about flowers and not weeds?
Very contradicting plus ive read loads about over ferting, you sure your not taking your infomation from a wiki source about flowers and not weeds?
KiefCatcher
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I agree with you, noxzious. I've seen plenty of overferting happen. skunkushybrid01, perhaps you should check your information.
Thats more than definately what it is, soil will kill leaves if contact is made. Also what water are you giving them? Thats another thing to consider before anything else when a plant starts to do that. pH problems start off like that. Do you know the pH of your water/soil? Soil with a low or high pH will yellow leaves like that quickly.
lol yeah i swear theres like a whole chapter about it in any good grow bible
skunkushybrid01
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overfeeding the medium will eventually lead to salt build up. nutrient ions do not like each other.. incompatible. too many of them floating around increases the risk of them bumping into each other and becoming unavailable to the plant, solidifying into salt... this is then an attractant to other ions and the salt builds up. locking out nutrients and so the plant must then rely on the nutrients from the leaves to support growth.. hence leaf discolouration and necrosis.
It takes a lot to over fertilize a medium. You could quite happily feed full strength from a seedling and make it to flower without having to plain water feed once.
soil usually has enough nutes to last a plant 3 weeks... your plant wants food. trust me.
TheCheef
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I get bottled water delivered to my house in 5 gallon bottles for drinking. I haven't tested it but it's dechlorinated and all that. I'm thinkin that should be good right?
I'm using FFOF soil. It's supposed to have a fixed ph of 6.3-6.8. I haven't tested my soil but that all seems pretty solid to me.
KushisSweet
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hmm thats very interesting.. so how would one go about feeding their plant without allowing salts to build up?! im guessing that once you start to feed ur plant and you have a tendancy to overwater jsut a little bit this could be the reason for salt build up? beacause your plant doesnt need the nutes so it sits and solidifys into salt..?! am i correct?
so basically, salts build up becasue your plant doesnt need the extra ferts in the soil, then when the soil dries, turns to salts, then so on.. am i grasping this correctly? i have a feeling this is right info because it makes common sence.. so how do you feed ur plant correctly?! thats the question we need to know...
so basically, salts build up becasue your plant doesnt need the extra ferts in the soil, then when the soil dries, turns to salts, then so on.. am i grasping this correctly? i have a feeling this is right info because it makes common sence.. so how do you feed ur plant correctly?! thats the question we need to know...
skunkushybrid01
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it depends on the medium. a medium like soil the nutrient ions may not be within reach of the roots at all times... so a higher concentration is needed to ensure the plants get what they need.
i'd suggest feed hard for several feeds then feed plain water occasionally to help rinse the salts to the bottom of the pot. this is where a lot of the salts will build up anyway. it's gravity. that's why checking run off is not a very good indicator of what is happening in the medium as a whole.