47% of Tea Baggers dont pay federal taxes hypocrisy insues

[CrackerJax]

It's all he has left.... racism... the act of political desperation.... just like Lewis.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Uhhh, yeah right, just average Americans that hate Blacks having power over them. Wake up cracker, there are a few rascists in that herd, quite a few.

An Anti-Semite lecturing the rest of us on tolerance.

Does anyone else see the humor here?

 

[CrackerJax]

All of Med Mans posts are funny..... completely inaccurate and bigoted.... but funny.

 

[ink the world]

I support some of the issues that the Tea Party does, not all but a fair amount. That being said I dont support the "Tea Party" at all. It's not grassroots, its just another money based political institution thats misleading its supporters. When you see the heavy involvement of Freedomworks and Dick Armey you have to see the same thing. Armey is a career politician and lobbyist, no different than the ones he wails against. In fact, i think he's worse. Did you now he lobbied for an Iranian on the US terror list?

Its too bad, all those people thinking they are part of an independant grassroots effort are being exploited and having their contributions funneled right into Armey's wallet and the GOP.

 

[CrackerJax]

It isn't a political party. It is a movement... a group of ppl gathered together with the same ideal.

That ideal is a country back to the road of independence, not dependence. They don't want to leave their children worse off. They don't want their children depending upon the government.

I think one of the misconceptions out there is that there is an overall leader, there isn't. So far, no one has tamed this bucking bronco of FREEDOM!

Liberals are repulsed by the thought of it, and the rest of the country is attracted to it.

Let's hope it continues.....

 

[ink the world]

I never said it was or is a party.

I know there is no "overall leader" BUT there is Freedomworks and Dick Armey. Freedomworks organized the whole but tour thing. That is where the Tea Party started, in an office of a lobbying firm.

You have a respectable understanding of politics and history so theres no need to go over Dick Armey or his past. He's is about as much of a GOP institution as it gets.

I have to disagree w/ you about the movement being as large as you state. The rally in DC seemed to have pretty weak attendance as did the local rallies near me. At the rally I saw 1/4 of the people were there to watch and laugh at ridiculous signs.

I have to call the motives and timing of some of the people into question. If taxes, responsible government spending and personal liberties are so important why weren't they out protesting 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 years ago?

Last week Newt Gingrich said the Tea arty "more likely to end up as the militant wing of the Republican Party"

I think thats all it really is right now. If not, where was all the anger, hatred, and protests over the last 8 years?

 

[undertheice]

If taxes, responsible government spending and personal liberties are so important why weren't they out protesting 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 years ago?

maybe because never in modern history has government attempted such a massive and blatant takeover of the private sector. banking, insurance, wall street, the automotive industry, even health care itself is threatened by overweening presumption of the current regime. the capitalistic nature of the nation, chipped away at by decades of neo-liberal meddling, is under attack and the concept of individual liberty along with it. i don't doubt that the movement may very well have its origins in the bowels of conservatism, but it is not restricted to the power players of the republican party. not everyone is as foolish as sting and his bitch, whining for bigger government to force the herd into their elitist mold.

 

[CrackerJax]

Yes, I find it somehow ironic that all of the "stereotypes" attributed to republicans (Big Bankers, wall street, insurance,big pharma) are all being given UNBELIEVABLE deals and bailouts by the Democrats.

Who's the party of greed? Obama and the Dem's are setting up these industries right now, so the taxpayer will always be on the hook for the debts. It's scandalous.

The Democrats are inserting the tentacles of government into all of the industries they publicly loathe. Their policies say otherwise. They are going to make sure that any losses fall to the American citizen.

 

[kappainf]

I don't see how anyone can have issue with a group of people trying to hold the gov't accountable for it's actions, unless you're a politician.

 

[CrackerJax]

Or completely uneducated.

 

[ink the world]

Im not a politician or uneducated, thanks for the passive aggressiveness CJ. Instead of insulting me, why dont you answer the question I posed.

In case guys missed what I started my post with, I SUPPORT many of the concepts that the Tea Party does.
That being said, why werent these same people out on the streets protesting the Patriot Act, when W started the bailouts, or when our deficit skyrocketed under the last Administration?

My point being that if people weren't out protesting when we had a GOP POTUS and they are now it can only lead to1 of 3 conclusions, or all 3.
1. Its nothing more than the Conservative wing of the GOP
2.People got scared by the Big Lie tactics ( "Death Panels", Birthers, "Secret Muslim" etc.)
3 Some are just plain scared to have a black man as POTUS

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

Im not a politician or uneducated, thanks for the passive aggressiveness CJ. Instead of insulting me, why dont you answer the question I posed.

In case guys missed what I started my post with, I SUPPORT many of the concepts that the Tea Party does.
That being said, why werent these same people out on the streets protesting the Patriot Act, when W started the bailouts, or when our deficit skyrocketed under the last Administration?

My point being that if people weren't out protesting when we had a GOP POTUS and they are now it can only lead to1 of 3 conclusions, or all 3.
1. Its nothing more than the Conservative wing of the GOP
2.People got scared by the Big Lie tactics ( "Death Panels", Birthers, "Secret Muslim" etc.)
3 Some are just plain scared to have a black man as POTUS

For me it is the speed at which the deficit is multiplying that concerns me the most.

"President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

• President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
• President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.
• President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.
• President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.
• President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.
• President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post."

The race thing is wearing a bit thin - I personally couldn't care less what color his skin is, its his actions and arrogance that gets under my skin.
GWN

 

[CrackerJax]

Im not a politician or uneducated, thanks for the passive aggressiveness CJ. Instead of insulting me, why dont you answer the question I posed.

In case guys missed what I started my post with, I SUPPORT many of the concepts that the Tea Party does.
That being said, why werent these same people out on the streets protesting the Patriot Act, when W started the bailouts, or when our deficit skyrocketed under the last Administration?

My point being that if people weren't out protesting when we had a GOP POTUS and they are now it can only lead to1 of 3 conclusions, or all 3.
1. Its nothing more than the Conservative wing of the GOP
2.People got scared by the Big Lie tactics ( "Death Panels", Birthers, "Secret Muslim" etc.)
3 Some are just plain scared to have a black man as POTUS

It's not aggressive... It's an observation. An accurate one too.

So out of the frying pan and into the fire is okay for you.... as long YOUR candidate does it....eh?

That's some set of principles you carry with you.

Obama IS greed personified. Every dollar sucked away from the citizens weakens the country and the recovery. Kind of why the unemployment rate is still hovering just below 10%.

 

[lopezri]

Im not a politician or uneducated, thanks for the passive aggressiveness CJ. Instead of insulting me, why dont you answer the question I posed.

In case guys missed what I started my post with, I SUPPORT many of the concepts that the Tea Party does.
That being said, why werent these same people out on the streets protesting the Patriot Act, when W started the bailouts, or when our deficit skyrocketed under the last Administration?

My point being that if people weren't out protesting when we had a GOP POTUS and they are now it can only lead to1 of 3 conclusions, or all 3.
1. Its nothing more than the Conservative wing of the GOP
2.People got scared by the Big Lie tactics ( "Death Panels", Birthers, "Secret Muslim" etc.)
3 Some are just plain scared to have a black man as POTUS

Well this is an awfully narrow minded point of view. So you're basically saying that if somebody doesn't like Obama's politics, they must be ignorant Republicans who get scared easily by other peoples extreme points of views about him and his color. Now WHO's racist?

The reason, in my opinion, that the same people who supported Bush that are now supporting the Tea Party, didn't have a problem the last 8 years prior to the Big Zero (O) being elected was because everything he was doing was in the best interests of the country of the U.S. Eventhough Bush's policies were also self serving, they were also serving the nation by means of supporting U.S. citizens freedoms from the attacks of extreme terrorists and to allow our country to remain soverign.

The Big O has no intention of trying to keep the United States of America as a sovereign nation OR as a country who's legal citizens are truly free from radical governments. His intentions are to become the leader of a one world government (Big over-reaching government that controls EVERYTHING that EVERYONE in the world does). He thinks that if he achieves this goal, there will be world peace. He's sadly mistaken. He has missed a HUGE step in achieving this by not understanding that world economies MUST be stable first in order to obtain this Utopian ideal without pulling down the more intelligent, above average humans of the world. Instead, he has decided to try to force everyone into a world of average to below average intelligence so that the masses are more easily controlled by him. This is the reason why so many people see him as an extreme liberal socialist.

Obama doesn't care about taking the unique greatnesses of mankind and elevating them, he only cares about taking the mediocrity of unambitious people and trying to fit EVERYONE into that mold. He doesn't realize that you just can't fit a square peg into a round hole.

 

[CrackerJax]

Bush didn't try and take over the economy..... Bush didn't try and buy everyone off with welfare programs..... etc. etc.

By the way.... the majority of the ppl now believe Obama is a Socialist...and he is taking us in that direction.

Once again....you "progressives" are out of touch and woefully misinformed...which is what it takes to be a modern liberal. Misinformed/uneducated.

 

[bud nugbong]

tea baggers stand over people while there sleeping and dip thier nutsacks onto the sleeping persons face....i dont know what this has to do with politics

but i do know that bush fucked the u.s over to make some money for his company...

 

[ink the world]

Again, CJ what the fuck??
I try to be civil and all you do is respond w/ insults, talking to me as I was your child.
I'll state yet again, Im not an Obama supporter, or a Progressive; far from it.
Believe it or not, just because someone doesn't agree w/ you doesn't mean they are "progressive" or "liberal".
Ya man, there are actually people that dont get sucked into the partisan bullshit, were called Independents. And guess what, WE are the ones that tip the balances of elections. Each party will always have their base, its people like me that can think for themselves instead of being lead around by the nose by a political machine.,.

You hyperbole and bullshit is common in the Tea party, why reasonable people laugh at the "movement"
Ya racist signs and hate speech are a hell of a platform. Enjoy the cousin loving, tobacco chewing redneck vote, Its all yours.



You can babble on and continue to insult me, but you STILL haven't answered my question, why is that?
Ahh fuck it, you arent capable of having a conversation without using personal attacks or answering a question so I'll just let you have you little sandbox back all to yourself and the other Right wing nut jobs.

 

[ink the world]

It's not aggressive... It's an observation. An accurate one too.

So out of the frying pan and into the fire is okay for you.... as long YOUR candidate does it....eh?
Not at all, things were bad then and they still are. I didnt say I was happy, i wasnt happy with things then and Im not now. Why do you for some reason believe that Obama is MY candidate? Why make such an assumption...For what it matters he didnt get my vote.

That's some set of principles you carry with you.

Obama IS greed personified. Every dollar sucked away from the citizens weakens the country and the recovery. Kind of why the unemployment rate is still hovering just below 10%.
You used the correct term "recovery" we ARE recovering from the mess of the last 12 years. From the AP today "Companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 index have reported 76 percent higher operating earnings than a year ago -- on pace to be the biggest year-over-year increase ever, according to S&P analyst Howard Silverblatt. Nearly half the companies in the index have reported earnings so far.

Also today from the AP:
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Unemployment rates fell or remained level in three-quarters of the 372 largest metropolitan areas, a sign that the economic recovery is widespread."

Like you said "recovery", things are getting better.

Lets try to be civil

 

[ViRedd]

If taxes, responsible government spending and personal liberties are so important why weren't they out protesting 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 years ago?
If not, where was all the anger, hatred, and protests over the last 8 years?

I was out there, ink. In fact, I challenged my Congressman at his town-hall meeting to point out in the consitution, especially in view of the 10th Amendment, where he derived the authority to institute HILLARY CARE in the states.

Where were you? I didn't see you at that particular meeting.

 

[CrackerJax]

Any recovery so far... and it sure hasn't been much ( 9.7% unemployment) has been done by the private sector DESPITE Obama's policies. All Obama has done is weaken the privates sector....which is the engine of the country.

Without these inane policies being put into play...he country would have ALREADY pulled out of the recession.

The govt. is always a DRAG on the economy..... always.