CrackerJax
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Sounds like Scientology..... it certainly isn't Christianity...that's for sure.
CrackerJax
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Science .... Ftw !!!
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Mini-Big Bangs created in cosmos origins project
Reuters – A scientist looks at computer screens at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) control center of the CERN in …
By Robert Evans Robert Evans – 2 hrs 43 mins ago
GENEVA (Reuters) – Physicists smashed sub-atomic particles into each other with record energy on Tuesday, creating thousands of mini-Big Bangs like the primeval explosion that gave birth to the universe 13.7 billion years ago.
Scientists and engineers in control rooms across the sprawling European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) near Geneva burst into applause as the $9.4 billion project to probe the origins of the cosmos scored its first big success.
"This opens the door to a totally new era of discovery," said CERN's director of research Sergio Bertolucci. "It is a step into the unknown where we will find things we thought were there and perhaps things we didn't know existed."
"It just shows what we can do in pushing knowledge forward on where we came from, how the early universe evolved," CERN Director-General Rolf Heuer said, speaking, like Bertolucci, on a video relay from Tokyo.
Colorful images of the collisions, at the center of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project which will continue for over a decade, were flashed onto screens across CERN.
CERN scientists say the images reflect what happened a fraction of a second after the Big Bang as matter and energy was spewed out, leading to the formation of galaxies stars and planets, and eventually the appearance of life.
HUGE VOLUMES OF DATA
Over the coming months and years some 10,000 researchers in laboratories around the globe, as well as at CERN, will analyze the huge volumes of data that will be produced from billions of LHC particle collisions to see how that happened.
Among stuff of the universe they hope to track down are invisible dark material making up 25 percent of the cosmos, a particle dubbed the Higgs boson that gives mass to matter, and perhaps new dimensions to add to the four already known.
"These are the known unknowns, but there are unknown unknowns out there which could make us radically revise our view of how the universe works," Bertolucci said. (see the difference between science and superstition? by CJ )
Soon after 1100 GMT (7 a.m. EDT) on Tuesday, and after two efforts earlier in the day were aborted due to technical glitches, the LHC slammed beams of particles together at a collision energy of 7 TeV, or 7 million electron volts.
This was three and a half times more than ever achieved in a particle accelerator. The particle beams were traveling at a fraction under the speed of light when they hit each other in a tunnel 100 meters (330 feet) under the Swiss-French border.
Oliver Buchmueller, a German physicist on the project, said hard information on what the many billions of collisions over the coming years reveal would emerge only slowly.
"But by the end of 2010 we think we will find evidence of dark material," he added. The Higgs boson was likely to prove more elusive, and perhaps appear only after 2013, when the collider is boosted to collision energy of 14 TeV.
The boson is named after Scottish physicist Peter Higgs, who proposed it three decades ago to explain how the disparate matter produced by the Big Bang was converted to mass.
The earlier delays were due to problems with the power supply and an over-sensitive magnet safety system. This led the physicists to suspend the mega-power particle collisions.
CERN officials insisted it was not a repeat of a major incident in September 2008 that seriously damaged parts of the LHC and delayed the full launch of the project until now.
They also dismissed suggestions from some outside scientists -- echoed by doomsday theorists -- that the fleeting mini-black holes that the project is likely to produce could sooner or later swallow up the Earth.
(Writing by Robert Evans and Jonathan Lynn)
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Mini-Big Bangs created in cosmos origins project
Reuters – A scientist looks at computer screens at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) control center of the CERN in … By Robert Evans Robert Evans – 2 hrs 43 mins ago
GENEVA (Reuters) – Physicists smashed sub-atomic particles into each other with record energy on Tuesday, creating thousands of mini-Big Bangs like the primeval explosion that gave birth to the universe 13.7 billion years ago.
Scientists and engineers in control rooms across the sprawling European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) near Geneva burst into applause as the $9.4 billion project to probe the origins of the cosmos scored its first big success.
"This opens the door to a totally new era of discovery," said CERN's director of research Sergio Bertolucci. "It is a step into the unknown where we will find things we thought were there and perhaps things we didn't know existed."
"It just shows what we can do in pushing knowledge forward on where we came from, how the early universe evolved," CERN Director-General Rolf Heuer said, speaking, like Bertolucci, on a video relay from Tokyo.
Colorful images of the collisions, at the center of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project which will continue for over a decade, were flashed onto screens across CERN.
CERN scientists say the images reflect what happened a fraction of a second after the Big Bang as matter and energy was spewed out, leading to the formation of galaxies stars and planets, and eventually the appearance of life.
HUGE VOLUMES OF DATA
Over the coming months and years some 10,000 researchers in laboratories around the globe, as well as at CERN, will analyze the huge volumes of data that will be produced from billions of LHC particle collisions to see how that happened.
Among stuff of the universe they hope to track down are invisible dark material making up 25 percent of the cosmos, a particle dubbed the Higgs boson that gives mass to matter, and perhaps new dimensions to add to the four already known.
"These are the known unknowns, but there are unknown unknowns out there which could make us radically revise our view of how the universe works," Bertolucci said. (see the difference between science and superstition? by CJ )
Soon after 1100 GMT (7 a.m. EDT) on Tuesday, and after two efforts earlier in the day were aborted due to technical glitches, the LHC slammed beams of particles together at a collision energy of 7 TeV, or 7 million electron volts.
This was three and a half times more than ever achieved in a particle accelerator. The particle beams were traveling at a fraction under the speed of light when they hit each other in a tunnel 100 meters (330 feet) under the Swiss-French border.
Oliver Buchmueller, a German physicist on the project, said hard information on what the many billions of collisions over the coming years reveal would emerge only slowly.
"But by the end of 2010 we think we will find evidence of dark material," he added. The Higgs boson was likely to prove more elusive, and perhaps appear only after 2013, when the collider is boosted to collision energy of 14 TeV.
The boson is named after Scottish physicist Peter Higgs, who proposed it three decades ago to explain how the disparate matter produced by the Big Bang was converted to mass.
The earlier delays were due to problems with the power supply and an over-sensitive magnet safety system. This led the physicists to suspend the mega-power particle collisions.
CERN officials insisted it was not a repeat of a major incident in September 2008 that seriously damaged parts of the LHC and delayed the full launch of the project until now.
They also dismissed suggestions from some outside scientists -- echoed by doomsday theorists -- that the fleeting mini-black holes that the project is likely to produce could sooner or later swallow up the Earth.
(Writing by Robert Evans and Jonathan Lynn)
slomoking13
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another source...
(CNN) -- Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider managed to make two proton beams collide at high energy Tuesday, marking a "new territory" in physics, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
The $10 billion research tool has been accelerating the beams since November in the LHC's 17-mile tunnel on the border of Switzerland and France.
The beams have routinely been circulating at 3.5 TeV, or teraelectron volts, the highest energy achieved at the LHC so far, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
Watch live Web cast from CERN
The first two attempts Tuesday failed, said Steve Myers, CERN's director for accelerators. He said the beams were lost before they reached their full energy.
Experiments at the LHC may help answer fundamental questions such as why Albert Einstein's theory of relativity -- which describes the world on a large scale -- doesn't jibe with quantum mechanics, which deals with matter far too small to see.
The collider may help scientists discover new properties of nature. The as-yet theoretical Higgs boson, also called "the God particle" in popular parlance, could emerge within two or three years, Myers said in November.
Evidence of supersymmetry -- the idea that every particle has a "super partner" with similar properties in a quantum dimension (according to some physics theories, there are hidden dimensions in the universe) -- could crop up as early as 2010.
The collider has been dogged by problems. It made headlines late last year when a bird apparently dropped a "bit of baguette" into the accelerator, making the machine shut down.
The incident was similar in effect to a standard power cut, said spokeswoman Katie Yurkewicz. Had the machine been going, there would have been no damage, but beams would have been stopped until the machine could be cooled back down to operating temperatures, she said.
The collider achieved its first full-circle beam in September 2008 amid much celebration. But just nine days later, the operation was set back when one of the 25,000 joints that connect magnets in the LHC came loose and the resulting current melted or burned some important components of the machine, Myers said.
The faulty joint has a cross-section of a mere two-thirds of an inch by two-thirds of an inch.
Should Tuesday's experiment go as planned and scientists are able to establish 7 TeV collisions, the plan is to run them continuously for 18 to 24 months with a short technical stop at the end of 2010, CERN said.
"It will be the beginning of a long period of running the accelerator with beams at this energy," Sutton said. "It's the period in which experiments will really start to collect data in this new energy region, where the potential for discoveries may be made."
Sutton compared the experiments to Christopher Columbus sailing for the New World in 1492, when he knew what he was looking for but didn't know what he might find.
"It's going into a new energy region," she said. "It's a new territory in particle physics, so we're really just standing on the threshold of that, which is exciting for everybody here, of course."
(CNN) -- Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider managed to make two proton beams collide at high energy Tuesday, marking a "new territory" in physics, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
The $10 billion research tool has been accelerating the beams since November in the LHC's 17-mile tunnel on the border of Switzerland and France.
The beams have routinely been circulating at 3.5 TeV, or teraelectron volts, the highest energy achieved at the LHC so far, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
Watch live Web cast from CERN
The first two attempts Tuesday failed, said Steve Myers, CERN's director for accelerators. He said the beams were lost before they reached their full energy.
Experiments at the LHC may help answer fundamental questions such as why Albert Einstein's theory of relativity -- which describes the world on a large scale -- doesn't jibe with quantum mechanics, which deals with matter far too small to see.
The collider may help scientists discover new properties of nature. The as-yet theoretical Higgs boson, also called "the God particle" in popular parlance, could emerge within two or three years, Myers said in November.
Evidence of supersymmetry -- the idea that every particle has a "super partner" with similar properties in a quantum dimension (according to some physics theories, there are hidden dimensions in the universe) -- could crop up as early as 2010.
The collider has been dogged by problems. It made headlines late last year when a bird apparently dropped a "bit of baguette" into the accelerator, making the machine shut down.
The incident was similar in effect to a standard power cut, said spokeswoman Katie Yurkewicz. Had the machine been going, there would have been no damage, but beams would have been stopped until the machine could be cooled back down to operating temperatures, she said.
The collider achieved its first full-circle beam in September 2008 amid much celebration. But just nine days later, the operation was set back when one of the 25,000 joints that connect magnets in the LHC came loose and the resulting current melted or burned some important components of the machine, Myers said.
The faulty joint has a cross-section of a mere two-thirds of an inch by two-thirds of an inch.
Should Tuesday's experiment go as planned and scientists are able to establish 7 TeV collisions, the plan is to run them continuously for 18 to 24 months with a short technical stop at the end of 2010, CERN said.
"It will be the beginning of a long period of running the accelerator with beams at this energy," Sutton said. "It's the period in which experiments will really start to collect data in this new energy region, where the potential for discoveries may be made."
Sutton compared the experiments to Christopher Columbus sailing for the New World in 1492, when he knew what he was looking for but didn't know what he might find.
"It's going into a new energy region," she said. "It's a new territory in particle physics, so we're really just standing on the threshold of that, which is exciting for everybody here, of course."
Hayduke
Well-Known Member
Lots of us have answered your question...you just did not like the answer! Again...I do not know
yes, but he really hates quadriplegics!
sarah22
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i still stand by my theory, that the universe is this entity that people call god. i really do think that the universe is what creates all life. i dont necessarily think its an intelligent design (but i wouldnt rule it out either), but its the source. its the source of everything. of our planets, our sun, all lifes energies come from it...i dont think that the universe has a beginning, and i dont think it will have an end...it has just always existed as it does now and the planets within it change with time, they come and go. i do feel that there is something bigger than us, some type of energy force...but do i think its a dude in the sky controlling everything? definitely not.
CrackerJax
New Member
By your theory Sarah.... the universe .... made itself. Neat party trick. 
sarah22
Well-Known Member
lol that would be a neat party trick. i dont think it was made at all. i think its always just existed. i dont really think that the universe has a measurable beginning. the planets and stuff, sure. but i dont know about the whole universe...i plan to attempt to find out thoughBy your theory Sarah.... the universe .... made itself. Neat party trick.
lol. thats what i like about these arguments, these questions, and science. i honestly dont think we're ever going to figure out the answers, we can get pieces to the puzzle, but i think humanity will die out long before we get the whole big picture. so it will give me a lifetime of fascinating work 
JeffersonBud
Active Member
Excuse me, but your still in the mind-set that there is but a single universe.
Current models of quantum physics state that there is many, many multiverses. Expanding bubbles of dark energy and matter, just like our own.
We always as humans think our neighborhood, be it the planet, solar system, or universe is a unique occurrence. Stars form clusters. Clusters of stars form galaxy's. Galaxy's form clusters, and galaxy clusters fill the universe with visible light outlining the expanding bounds of space time.
We are just finding out that universes also form clusters.
Are you familiar with the circle, Fibonacci sequence, the golden ratio, or fractals? They are natures way in our universe of grasping infinity through mathematics. No matter how much you zoom into the fractal, it will always repeat. Look at the nodes of the plant. They repeat themselves all over, from the stems to the leaves. Stars, galaxy's, and universes are no different and is the same thing as "who created the creator".
Humans walk hand in hand with technology and inquisitive thought. We will always seek truth and understanding of our environment. We may soon know how our own universe works, but there are infinite others to understand, and maybe something larger or smaller beyond that. No one knows the answer. Find comfort in the fact that we all share that, and that we have each other.
Current models of quantum physics state that there is many, many multiverses. Expanding bubbles of dark energy and matter, just like our own.
We always as humans think our neighborhood, be it the planet, solar system, or universe is a unique occurrence. Stars form clusters. Clusters of stars form galaxy's. Galaxy's form clusters, and galaxy clusters fill the universe with visible light outlining the expanding bounds of space time.
We are just finding out that universes also form clusters.
Are you familiar with the circle, Fibonacci sequence, the golden ratio, or fractals? They are natures way in our universe of grasping infinity through mathematics. No matter how much you zoom into the fractal, it will always repeat. Look at the nodes of the plant. They repeat themselves all over, from the stems to the leaves. Stars, galaxy's, and universes are no different and is the same thing as "who created the creator".
Humans walk hand in hand with technology and inquisitive thought. We will always seek truth and understanding of our environment. We may soon know how our own universe works, but there are infinite others to understand, and maybe something larger or smaller beyond that. No one knows the answer. Find comfort in the fact that we all share that, and that we have each other.
CrackerJax
New Member
I believe the flying Spaghetti Monster is responsible....
Just as plausible as ANY non scientific explanation.
So eat a meatball tonite and be blessed!
Just as plausible as ANY non scientific explanation.
So eat a meatball tonite and be blessed!
slomoking13
Well-Known Member
I like the theory that everything comes down to energy... thoughts, movements, anything you do is a transfer of energy. Also, you could put a twist on it and say that all energy is energy that came from the universe in the first place and when you die, the energy is returned to the universe in one form or another (if an animal eats your dead body, it's getting energy from you). That being said, when i die... cremate me, compost me, and use me as fertilizer for some bud plants haha... i guarantee you some potent plants!
JeffersonBud
Active Member
Do you mean the "electric universe theory"?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#
JeffersonBud
Active Member
Tesla was a believer in the EUT (Electric Universe Theory)
CrackerJax
New Member
As long as it doesn't have a space wizard involved.... okay by me.
Theorize away...until we know.
Theorize away...until we know.
slomoking13
Well-Known Member
I wasn't going off any theory in particular that I know of, just saying i like the idea... feels like it adds a little harmony to the world as i see it. I'm an economics major though, so by default, i like balance, efficiency, and equilibrium! haha. just noticed the video is over an hour long which means i need to smoke before i watch it. I will be commenting on it later tho for sure!
afrawfraw
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I would skip the cremation and go straight to compost...Otherwise you would be mostly Potassium...
CrackerJax
New Member
A true flower power child .... at last.