is hip hop dead to YOU?

[NevaSmokedOut]

in my eyes or in my ears so to speak the real rap sounds come from basically the most legenadry emcees but above all the real hip hop is undeground an a lot kids today ain't peepin that. i grew up in the time where rap had depth, comedy, abstract, conscious an a message for people. now we got gucci lame, ole da deutch man an a new rap hoe in competition with lil kim an trina (now these rap sluts will compete with each other). more to the point support the underground not the commercial sound.

PEACE

 

[neosapien]

in my eyes or in my ears so to speak the real rap sounds come from basically the most legenadry emcees but above all the real hip hop is undeground an a lot kids today ain't peepin that. i grew up in the time where rap had depth, comedy, abstract, conscious an a message for people. now we got gucci lame, ole da deutch man an a new rap hoe in competition with lil kim an trina (now these rap sluts will compete with each other). more to the point support the underground not the commercial sound.

PEACE

No, it is alive and well in Immortal Technique, Sabac Red and many other underground artists. The bling bling era was cute, but it's about to be done, I leave you full of clips like the moon blockin the sun, my metaphors are dirty like herpes but harder to catch, like an escape tunnel in prison I started from scratch

 

[mastakoosh]

rap is on life support. i have been listening to hip hop close to 25 years. i find myself listening to past legendary mc's more often than not, like rakim. i agree that mostly the only listenable current hip hop comes from the underground. there is some dope shit but it is harder to find anymore.

 

[tip top toker]

i guess i was brought up on this generations hip hop, and in light of the threads creation, that's probably why i find it all to be such a load of shit.

recently found Immortal Technique but other than Dance with the Devil (which grew old fast for me) i'm not impressed with his stuff

 

[DocDoom85]

No, it is alive and well in Immortal Technique, Sabac Red and many other underground artists. The bling bling era was cute, but it's about to be done, I leave you full of clips like the moon blockin the sun, my metaphors are dirty like herpes but harder to catch, like an escape tunnel in prison I started from scratch

I've seen immortal techinique in concert...and freestyled with his homies at a afterparty....i like mf doom...mf Grimm anything wutang ...I like del cunning linguists Quasimoto madlib. Murs. Atmoshere. To name a few. Any of u guys listen to any of those dudes

 

[neosapien]

I've seen immortal techinique in concert...and freestyled with his homies at a afterparty....i like mf doom...mf Grimm anything wutang ...I like del cunning linguists Quasimoto madlib. Murs. Atmoshere. To name a few. Any of u guys listen to any of those dudes

Yeah I saw Tech bout 2 years ago. Best concert I've ever been to. Murs is awesome too!

Edit: I missed the Del part. He is legendary!!!

 

[DocDoom85]

any one listen to Quasimoto madlib best stoner music the unseen is like my favorte album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCKBd2Q-GnM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgUBOkGfWbw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdVA1KwWMws&feature=related

 

[mastakoosh]

I've seen immortal techinique in concert...and freestyled with his homies at a afterparty....i like mf doom...mf Grimm anything wutang ...I like del cunning linguists Quasimoto madlib. Murs. Atmoshere. To name a few. Any of u guys listen to any of those dudes

definitely, wu no question. cunning linguists are sick but i always fuck up spelling their name. del has been spittin funky shit forever and i have been chilling with the tame 1 del shit. lotta people have been talkin bout atmosphere lately but i havent checked much of his stuff. slug is tight too. good group of artists in your post. some of my favorites are brother ali, tame 1, leak bros.... hate to admit to listenin to old cage lol, the weathermen a lot of others.

 

[JN811]

ive gotta say the majority of rap now a days is complete garbage...

 

[defcomexperiment]

i listen to mf doom regularly, aesop rock, el p, murs, etc etc the list goes on, hip hop is not dead to me, it just transitioned... heard a decent mainstream track when i was in NYC jay electronika - exhibit c... its on youtube, hottest mainstream i heard in a minute... el p is working on his next album right now, and sage francis is about to do a show in my area in a couple months... ive been able to kick it/talk to most people i listen to, which is one of the things i like most... got to be on stage for most of SSS's sets, which was a pretty unique experience... kinda waitin for mf doom to come through, heard there was some suspicion of lip syncing or him using a body double or some shit during rock the bells a few years back... what do they expect from a masked villian though


edited to add:
btw aesop rock solely produced the latest installment from felt and appears regularly on it, though i only gave a few tracks a quick listen... ive been pretty heavy into def jux, rhymesayers, anticon, and other smaller independent labels since around 99/00 since i felt there was a large void left in hip hop in the marginally commercial market, some due to death's, beef, over-commercialization, watering down of the product for a mainstream audience... kinda felt like the early 90s boom lead to the raping of an artistic genre, and now we have most tracks on the radio are autotune/vocoder, and sound like shit...

p.s. lil wayne is wack as fuck... i respect his paid dues, hard work, and down to earth attitude, but i just cant feel that shit...

 

[DocDoom85]

definitely, wu no question. cunning linguists are sick but i always fuck up spelling their name. del has been spittin funky shit forever and i have been chilling with the tame 1 del shit. lotta people have been talkin bout atmosphere lately but i havent checked much of his stuff. slug is tight too. good group of artists in your post. some of my favorites are brother ali, tame 1, leak bros.... hate to admit to listenin to old cage lol, the weathermen a lot of others.

I love brother ali ,Ill check out those other guys , Im still listening to old school del

Wish my brother gearge was here both sides of the brain No need for alarm Im A huge hiphop head I have cases of records and cds

 

[mastakoosh]

i listen to mf doom regularly, aesop rock, el p, murs, etc etc the list goes on, hip hop is not dead to me, it just transitioned... heard a decent mainstream track when i was in NYC jay electronika - exhibit c... its on youtube, hottest mainstream i heard in a minute... el p is working on his next album right now, and sage francis is about to do a show in my area in a couple months... ive been able to kick it/talk to most people i listen to, which is one of the things i like most... got to be on stage for most of SSS's sets, which was a pretty unique experience... kinda waitin for mf doom to come through, heard there was some suspicion of lip syncing or him using a body double or some shit during rock the bells a few years back... what do they expect from a masked villian though


edited to add:
btw aesop rock solely produced the latest installment from felt and appears regularly on it, though i only gave a few tracks a quick listen... ive been pretty heavy into def jux, rhymesayers, anticon, and other smaller independent labels since around 99/00 since i felt there was a large void left in hip hop in the marginally commercial market, some due to death's, beef, over-commercialization, watering down of the product for a mainstream audience... kinda felt like the early 90s boom lead to the raping of an artistic genre, and now we have most tracks on the radio are autotune/vocoder, and sound like shit...

p.s. lil wayne is wack as fuck... i respect his paid dues, hard work, and down to earth attitude, but i just cant feel that shit...

man true words in this post. to me there was so many talented artists in the 90's, that you could listen to almost every song on a cd. now every mainstream song that i hear from dudes like drake, weezy or whoever just doesnt do it for me. im like this shit sounds wack and just doesnt make my head nod. the current hip hop artists, labels, producers, hear 1 song that sells a million and they make a song with the exact formula so it sounds the same so they can get rich . every hit is predictable and watered down to the point where mindless people who have no hip hop knowledge eat it up lol. i have no problem with new artists but just be original and stop doin what everyone else is doing.

I love brother ali ,Ill check out those other guys , Im still listening to old school del

Wish my brother gearge was here both sides of the brain No need for alarm Im A huge hiphop head I have cases of records and cds

hell yeah brother. definitely check out some cage agent orange and leak bros druggie fresh and you wont be dissapointed. i am gonna check more doom when i get a chance. all you guys in this thread seem like real headz. yall should stop by my hip hop thread. we welcome any type of hip hop or musiic. everyone is cool and down to earth, and i love being exposed to hip hop i have never heard before. so anyone is welcome to stop by and post what they feel is real hip hop.

 

[Handson]

in my eyes or in my ears so to speak the real rap sounds come from basically the most legenadry emcees but above all the real hip hop is undeground an a lot kids today ain't peepin that. i grew up in the time where rap had depth, comedy, abstract, conscious an a message for people. now we got gucci lame, ole da deutch man an a new rap hoe in competition with lil kim an trina (now these rap sluts will compete with each other). more to the point support the underground not the commercial sound.

PEACE

Modern rap has a message, lifestyle pushing mo fo sell outs like Jay Z and 50 cent, Lil Wayne, Tichy Stryder saying violence and sex is cool and that's all your kids are going to listen to, if you get my drift. Their in the same boat as Lady Gaga etc. The Artists who try to change shit get bumped off, pushed aside because their lyrics are too intelligently written for the modern dumb ass kids to understand, I'm 22 and it shocks me that people can't see it, EVEN AT MY AGE. The music business is dumbed down, It's ringtone hip pop for the stupid kids and they suck it in.

Don't get me wrong, I love to get high the old school west coast stuff, which was about gangs and violence and sex and drugs is cool, but it wasn't on every channel 24 hours a day. Now I'm into more political hip hop, like Canibus, La Coka Nostra, Necro etc. Can't beat the old school MCs though like you said.

HIP POP IS DEAD

HIP HOP ISN'T DEAD

http://jumptheturnstyle.com/?p=1456

 

[NevaSmokedOut]

Modern rap has a message, lifestyle pushing mo fo sell outs like Jay Z and 50 cent, Lil Wayne, Tichy Stryder saying violence and sex is cool and that's all your kids are going to listen to, if you get my drift. Their in the same boat as Lady Gaga etc. The Artists who try to change shit get bumped off, pushed aside because their lyrics are too intelligently written for the modern dumb ass kids to understand, I'm 22 and it shocks me that people can't see it, EVEN AT MY AGE. The music business is dumbed down, It's ringtone hip pop for the stupid kids and they suck it in.

Don't get me wrong, I love to get high the old school west coast stuff, which was about gangs and violence and sex and drugs is cool, but it wasn't on every channel 24 hours a day. Now I'm into more political hip hop, like Canibus, La Coka Nostra, Necro etc. Can't beat the old school MCs though like you said.

HIP POP IS DEAD

HIP HOP ISN'T DEAD

http://jumptheturnstyle.com/?p=1456

yea i just saw this as a statistic me an my boy came up that between 50-70% of the people in this generation can't freestyle

 

[Sr. Verde]

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[headbandrocker]

Hiphop will grow as its boundries disapear
LOL this is the future....

http://www.dieantwoord.com/

 

[dankenstine]

tech goes HARD live - best live show ive seen actually

 

[dankenstine]

hip hop aint dead, its just in a transition - moving from the east coast to the south - and with myspace and facebook and mixtape sites like datpiff, the indie game has stepped way up. give it a year or so and let the new cats develop and mature - hip hop will never die

 

[defcomexperiment]

there is still hope for the future, i school new school heads when i can stomach it on real hip hop old and new... right now im listening to "cash still rules/scary hours" circa '96 wu tang forever, and not only does it bring back memories smokin big blunts bombin through detroit... its also 10x harder than anything ive heard in a long time... the radio isnt even on my radar, and hasnt been for a long time... mainstream always has been watered down and dumbed down, and always will be... look at what mainstream pressure, and marketability did to em, he started making trash, sacrificing the art for gimmick...

"Catch us swimmin with these sharks now, you rap villains
We feel the same way you feelin, let it be known
What the blood clot you niggaz dealin, you crash dummies
Cash rules, still don't nuttin move but the money"

 

[IAm5toned]

i wanted to cry when i heard a recent number one hit from a year or two ago; dont remember the name of the track or artist, but i remember the lyric that got me- 'its so hot up in the club i aint got no shoes on'

ever been in a club with no shoes on.... eeewwwwww

shit makes me sick, fuckin kids rappin about shit they have no clue about.
give me some KRS, tribe, mc eight, raekwon, bont thugs, old jayz (dead presidents era) keith murray, anything but the crap they pass on the radio these days as both mainstream, and rap.
its disgusting.... both puff daddy and sug knight should be run out of there respective towns on a rail, tarred and feathered, for selling out the music so many worked so hard for so long like some punk ass bitches. snoop still has some hot tracks but... hes all commercial these days too