Blueberry, Sharksbreath, LSD, Kushberry and Red Dragon 600W Homemade Cabinet Grow

wowisuckatthis

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I think FF has great potential :leaf: !!!

I will let you know when I learn how to grow...:-P

I just fucked up,,, I dropped grow big when changing to flower nutrients on the WWs and 2 wks ltr the leaves turned yellow, they never recovered…I think that is one reason my WWs wont finish… :roll:

I never lost a leaf on my first grow in waterfarms, they were so freakin bushy it was crazy...:bigjoint:

But the WWs smell so nice very strong and the samples show promise ;-)

I am hoping for green leaves till the flush with these babies… :hump:

I have a DynaGro vs FF thing going. Too early to tell so far. One of each is lagging,,,so its a tie :leaf: :bigjoint:
did you flush your widows before sending them into flower sl? and did the leaves go yellow all at one or did they fade from the bottom up?
 

jebus2029

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A little advise if you do decide to LST, drill or or burn holes with a saudering iron all around the lip of your pots. Then you can do a a quick knot when you tie em down. I've noticed when taping them down the glue will rub off after a bit. Trust me you don't want to check on her to find a branch came loose and is now pressing against your light.
 

SL2

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did you flush your widows before sending them into flower sl? and did the leaves go yellow all at one or did they fade from the bottom up?

Not before I started flower. I started flush last tuesday. Step 3 of flush was last night for the widows, 3 gal plain then 1 gal with 1 tbs molasses. Just posted some pics I took this morning in my other thread. They just slowly started turning yellow two weeks into flower, fan leaves first then all over. :roll:

A little advise if you do decide to LST, drill or or burn holes with a saudering iron all around the lip of your pots. Then you can do a a quick knot when you tie em down. I've noticed when taping them down the glue will rub off after a bit. Trust me you don't want to check on her to find a branch came loose and is now pressing against your light.

Thanks for the advice jebus. I have had that happen and burned my little buds! OUCH! lol

I am using smart pots that are fabric. Not sure how that will work but I have some grow through screens I may use to train them. :bigjoint:

dude nice cant wait should check out my pic and give me some pointers and what not thank you

Thanks man...

I am by no means an expert but I would be happy to. Where is your pic?:eyesmoke:
 

MatanuskaValley

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Not before I started flower. I started flush last tuesday. Step 3 of flush was last night for the widows, 3 gal plain then 1 gal with 1 tbs molasses. Just posted some pics I took this morning in my other thread. They just slowly started turning yellow two weeks into flower, fan leaves first then all over. :roll:



Thanks for the advice jebus. I have had that happen and burned my little buds! OUCH! lol

I am using smart pots that are fabric. Not sure how that will work but I have some grow through screens I may use to train them. :bigjoint:



Thanks man...

I am by no means an expert but I would be happy to. Where is your pic?:eyesmoke:
I have been reading a lot about this problem of late yellowing. A lot of people have been adding their veg nutes with high nitrogen later in flower once to fix this problem.
 

SL2

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Took the WW's out of the flower cab and put the"9" babies in there last night
gave them their first flower nutes along with veg to keep them leaves healthy I hope.
I put the WW's in the veg cab to finish. :lol:

Here they are in their new home for next 2.5 months...
Plenty of room to grow and good side light.
Lower side branches should do well. :leaf::leaf::leaf:



They seemed a little droopy, I was surprised but the temps were on the cool side 67,
surprise again with the 600. I shut off the circulating fan and the temps came up 72...
I need to switch the S&P fan to low speed...Very pleased how cool the big flower cab is running.
Should pay off when summer hits.




Clones : Not sure what is what! lol




This how my moma did it! But not in a shot glass...
Just trying to see if it works on weed...:-P



:blsmoke:
 

SL2

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I have been reading a lot about this problem of late yellowing. A lot of people have been adding their veg nutes with high nitrogen later in flower once to fix this problem.
I have been reading a lot about it as well. Seems a lot of people are having the same prob. My WW's started early, 2 weeks into flowering. I added veg nutes but it never recovered. :-?

I think the leaves should be healthy and green until the flush starts or you drop the nutes. Every flower, plant, bush or tree I have ever grown was the healthiest, best looking and grew the fastest when the leaves were healthy. So imo it should be the same with weed. bongsmilie

This is what I am trying on my new grow to combat the yellowing. This time for the first flower feed I just added 1/2 strength flower to the veg. Next feed will be full both flower and veg. I will slowly cut back the veg nutes as I see how they do. I dont know if this works but I am going to try. :roll:
 

SL2

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This cabinet runs so cool I may need to get a 1000 to put in there...

Does anyone know where to get or if they even make a 600 MH? I cant find any...
 

jebus2029

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I'm pretty sure I've seen 600 and 1000 MH on ebay, but I could be wrong. It might have been a MH/HPS setup.

Here's another idea for LST'ing... Get those cheap plactic water catchers for putting under pots. The clear plastic ones that have a raised lip of about an inch. That way you can still pick up and move the plants even when they are tied down to it. Otherwise maybe super crop them. I'm not really a fan of super cropping though. Not as precise IMO.
 

chb444220

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yeaa. I'm like 99% surfe they make them.. cuz I think i ws debatin on getting a 400 watt or 600 watt...? I could be wrong tho. lemme go check
 

SL2

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Thanks man I have not seen those. Not sure about conversion bulbs. Have to read up on those. Man those bulbs dont have many lumes only 50 and 66k. My Hortilux hps bulb has 88k. I like Eye Hortilux but they dont make a 600 mh.

Thanks again chb Ill have to check them out. Im thinking of veging with the 600 and flower with a 1000. What ya think? That should put out some big ass buds!!!
 

chb444220

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Awwww.. yeaaaa. your right. Shit.. I dodnt realize that ALL of them were conversion bulbs.. =-( well i fthey dont put out as much light.. why dont you get a 1000 watt MH Conversion Bulb instead...?? If your gonna flower with 1000 watt HPS then you can get 1000 watt MH Conversion Bulb that will fit into that.. and I'm sure the 1000 watt MH Conv. bulb will put out the same, if not more light than a "normal" 600 watt MH bulb...??

But yeaaaa. If you flower with 1000 watt HPS.. those buds are gonna be BEASTS!! Fuck havin popcorn buds.. your gonna have fuckin soccerball/basketball sized buds man!! They're gonna be HUGE!! I cant wait to see them!

I'm gettin ready to take my clone now.. I was debtain on wether or not to do it.. theres ups and downs to both.. listed them in my journal.. I'm just bein lazy and dont wanna write them on here too. lol.

I still cant wait to see those White Widow Buds harvested man.... I'm looking forward to that Sooooooo Bad!!
 

MatanuskaValley

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Awwww.. yeaaaa. your right. Shit.. I dodnt realize that ALL of them were conversion bulbs.. =-( well i fthey dont put out as much light.. why dont you get a 1000 watt MH Conversion Bulb instead...?? If your gonna flower with 1000 watt HPS then you can get 1000 watt MH Conversion Bulb that will fit into that.. and I'm sure the 1000 watt MH Conv. bulb will put out the same, if not more light than a "normal" 600 watt MH bulb...??

But yeaaaa. If you flower with 1000 watt HPS.. those buds are gonna be BEASTS!! Fuck havin popcorn buds.. your gonna have fuckin soccerball/basketball sized buds man!! They're gonna be HUGE!! I cant wait to see them!

I'm gettin ready to take my clone now.. I was debtain on wether or not to do it.. theres ups and downs to both.. listed them in my journal.. I'm just bein lazy and dont wanna write them on here too. lol.

I still cant wait to see those White Widow Buds harvested man.... I'm looking forward to that Sooooooo Bad!!

Hey man I would avoid a 1000 watt just from experience. they run super hot and the lumens to watt ratio is not as good as the 600. If you want to run a 1000 watts run a 600 overhead and 400 watts in cfl for the lower branch lighting. 400 watts in cfl is a rediculous amount of bright bulbs!

http://www.1000bulbs.com/150-to-200-Watt-Compact-Fluorscent/

think of having one of these in the lower 4 corners of your grow box:)
 

SL2

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Thanks man I appreciate you taking the time to post those links...

Those conversion bulbs may be ok but they had a lot less lumes.

I just priced the Galaxy 1000 ballast I want. It is switchable runs 400/600 or 1000 mh or hps. Even has a 10% boot switch for the 1000, buts at $330 bucks plus a bulb. Going to have to wait for now! I cant spend the money...

I was thinking that if I veged under a 600 mh and then flower under the 1000 hps or a dual arc bulb that should produce some Humongous buds...lol

Oh well the 600 will do a fine job! But I bet a 1000 would be killer...Will def give it a try in the future... More more more LOL

One of my clones showed roots yesterday. Coming out the top and bottom of the rw cube. 10 days, not bad...Im going to take the plastic wrap off the cube and place it in the 9oz cup with OF soil. Ill leave it in there untill the others are ready...then put them in the 2 gal pots...

Party ON!!!
 

MatanuskaValley

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Well here we go. I am so psyched! My third grow (first journal) and FINALLY I got some good shit to grow! Hell Yeah!!! Anybody want to ride??? lol And to finally know WTF I am smoking. (Sorry Im am little tongue-hanging- numb right now, lol) Been reading a lot the last year or so here on RIU and have learned A LOT. Man let me tell you brother, if you can dream it up they are doin it here…You can find all differing opinions on all subjects. I research the shit out of everything. That’s just me. Especially if I’m layin down some a lot of my hard earned cash. FcknA, better be some good equipment. One thing life has taught me is you get what you pay for unless you steal it! lol

As you can see I went from no seeds to Too GD many. Anybody wants some? lol I drove myself nit just trying to decide what to grow first. Good or bad here is what I chose and what is left ready and waiting!!!

I tried to match them based on flower time and height. That is the reason for the colors. Yawl let me know if I fucked up! lol

The Winners are: Germed 12-21-09
Barney’s Farm LSD (2 Planted) fem
DP Blueberry (2 Planted) fem
DNA Sharksbreath (2 Planted, 4 left) reg
Barney’s Farm Red Dragon (1 Planted) fem
DNA Kushberry (1 Planted) fem




On Deck!
DP Strawberry Cough (2 ea)
Big Buddha C H I E S E L (1 ea)
Green House Super Lemon Haze (2 ea)
Big Buddha Blue Cheese (2 ea)

In the BULL Pin
DNA Sharksbreath (4 ea)
DNA Chocolope (1 ea)
MarijuanaSeeds.nl White Widow (4)
MarijuanaSeeds.nl Big Bud (4)


Freebees
Dinafem Blue Hash (1 ea)
Dinafem Power Kush (1 ea)
Dinafem White Widow (1 ea)
Dinafem Moby Dick (2 ea)
DNA Hashplant Haze (2 ea)


Christmas Specials courtesy of DNA / Attitude
LA Confidential x Skunk (3 ea)
Kandy Kush x Skunk (3 ea)
Kushberry x Skunk (3 ea)
Sleestack x Skunk (3 ea)
OG18 x Skunk (3 ea)



Set up
I havnt Finished my new BIGGER flower cabinet yet. I will convert my current flower cabinet and veg in it when the new one is finished so I can move my white widow and big bud. See https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/284445-homemade-flower-cabinet.html link in sig. I will keep the fan/filter but install my T5, add a shelf middle ways for the conversion.




I veg under a 8 Bulb, 4’ T5. Cant remember who makes it and I cant find it any more. It has a switch to run just the 4 outside or the 4 middle bulbs separately.






I am using FF soil and nutes.




Lets Germinate!



I been germin in rock wool cubes but decided to try FF Light Warrior. I used some clear cups to see the root development. I also put about 1/3 Ocean forest on the bottom and filled with Light Warrior on the top.



The beginning of a wonderful relationship! Lol SB seed in its new home…



Put them in the tray, place tray on seed heating mat and water, cover with dome and bake til popped! lol




I use a 2’ T5 for the dome light with a homemade reflector.






Lets BAKE! See ya when they Pop!!!



I welcome all comments and appreciate any advice.

I completely stole this idea for sprouting my Matanuska tundra, they grow awesome nice idea!
 
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