Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

cruzer101

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Man it sure does.

I just got back from reading it. Good job man. I love your screen.
Great 411 there Guy. I thought about hempy but thought it would be too tall.

I am headed to Wallmart to find that rack you cut down to make your screen.
Looks like I will have to modify that massive reflector too. Shorten the wings some.
 

SomeGuy

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Man it sure does.

I just got back from reading it. Good job man. I love your screen.
Great 411 there Guy. I thought about hempy but thought it would be too tall.

I am headed to Wallmart to find that rack you cut down to make your screen.
Looks like I will have to modify that massive reflector too. Shorten the wings some.
Right on!! So your gonna go parabolic for this grow!!?? Your right, the sides of the reflector will have to be modified. I posted a link to the walmart page with those screens for you. Remember, site to store is free most the time and quick if your store doesn't have them. I wish I had as much sqft to work with as you, my screen is only about 14.5" x about 40", if my screen was flat it would only be 14.5x 26
 

cruzer101

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Thats why I didnt find it. I thought it was made out of like the side of storage rack but you made it out of those boxes. OK I get it now.

But ya, When I first pictured the screen it was parabolic. But all I could find was flimsy netting or fence material so I started leaning towards shelving. Problem is shelving has a lip and you cant bend it. So I figured I would try and bend the light.

Now that I see how you put those together I see how it would work but now I am leaning back towards fence material to get all one piece. I did pick up some smaller ducting to make smaller wings for the reflector though.

What I really want is one inch square holes, sturdy one piece parabolic thats 48x24
Back to the hardware store. If I am gonna do this I gotta do it quick.
 

NewGrowth

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Have not dropped in for a while but it looks great as always cruzer! I love your little SCROG coming along great. :peace:
 

cruzer101

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Ok Guys, I think I got it. The perfect screen for my application.
I saw this welded wire fencing before but thought the holes were too big.
They had it down at OSH 3 foot tall rolls and I got 5 feet of it.





I cut it back to a little under two feet to fit and folded the ends over and wedged it in the shelf brackets. fastened the bottom front to the tub with the scrap wire. I got enough to do one for the floro cab too.






















Sturdy enough, perfect size to match the throw of the light (parabolic) and easily removable.
I know it will be eaiser to work the plants through, thats for sure.

So what do ya think, better then the cage?

"intresting choice for a screen Cruzer" Yea right. I lnow that really means "what the fuck?"

Hey Someguy, Thanks for reminding me, I am sure the buds will get better lighting with a curved screen.

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tom__420

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Yeah man that screen looks like it will do an excellent job
much more surface area for buds lol
Coming along nicely my friend
 

SomeGuy

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Hey Someguy, Thanks for reminding me, I am sure the buds will get better lighting with a curved screen.

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No problem my friend! :) I think it looks great. Now let that screen fill up to about 2/3rds and flip :)

I was going to suggest that fencing btw, I have some of it around my outdoor garden to keep large pests out. Looks like it will work like a charm.

BTW, what material are you using for the reflector?


 

cruzer101

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Thanks for the imput guys,

Thats the best part about having a journal. Getting ideas from other growers.
Just like the reflector. I saw a members grow journal where he (tmscully) built a reflector for his cfl grow. He got some sheet metal from home depot and made his own. Well I went to the depot and the size was too big to fit in my car then I saw these ducting pieces in 6, 8 and 10 inch round. they were all about 3 foot long.




My idea was a little different then his but it got me going.
I wondered why reflectors are made of only the aluminum material and after a bit of research I did find some made out of sheet metal. I assume aluminum is more reflective so I tried a little experiment and I found I get more focused reflection out of the sheet metal. The german aluminum they use I found throws light in every direction where the sheet metal seems to reflect it more like a mirror.

Funny thing, Once I had it built I was lookin around and found a journal where this guy bought a reflector that was very similar to what I made.​
 

NewGrowth

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Mirror type reflection is bad, you want to scatter the light evenly across your plants that is why the German reflective aluminum is so nice. It helps reduce hot-spots as well.
 

cruzer101

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Mirror type reflection is bad, you want to scatter the light evenly across your plants that is why the German reflective aluminum is so nice. It helps reduce hot-spots as well.
Yea I have heard that. But it's just me, I gotta see it for myself.

I may end up burning some. I will keep an eye out for that.
Actually its not a mirror really, The reflection seems to stretch when I straighten the ducting.

Check it out.
Same light, distance and angle.

Curved.





Then I straighten it out some...



Maybe its the way it was finished but it seems like you get more light spread out and I would think less chance of hot spots.
Only one way to find out.
 

tmsculli

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Get 'em Cruzer haha. I still love how nice you made the reflector. Oh, and I too used those same sheets that you used. I may have made that unclear, but I didn't get full sheets either. I used the same pieces you did :D

Glad to see that you have a nice system working OT for you, giving you time to experiment a bit and have some more fun with it. I admire it brother, you do good work. When is the last time you stopped in my ladies. They used to be sexy ladies, they are looking a little French now, quite hairy indeed....
 

SomeGuy

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Thanks for the imput guys, Thats the best part about having a journal. Getting ideas from other growers. Just like the reflector. I saw a members grow journal where he (tmscully) built a reflector for his cfl grow. He got some sheet metal from home depot and made his own. Well I went to the depot and the size was too big to fit in my car then I saw these ducting pieces in 6, 8 and 10 inch round. they were all about 3 foot long.

Thanks man. I have a roll of sheet metal around, I think I am gonna try using that. Great sharing ideas with you. :) I think you will love the curved screen. I am gonna give your suggestion a go on the next round and screen the back corners and wall to give more surface area. Thanks again!
 

phreakygoat

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this is why i love this site... parabolic screens and reflector test pictures...
but seriously that screen is gonna work great for the different plants, i might even suggesting a more severe/tall curve, cause those TW really get tall so fast in budding, compared to the pk. your garden is looking healthier than ever :peace:
 

cruzer101

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Get 'em Cruzer haha. I still love how nice you made the reflector. Oh, and I too used those same sheets that you used. I may have made that unclear, but I didn't get full sheets either. I used the same pieces you did :D

Glad to see that you have a nice system working OT for you, giving you time to experiment a bit and have some more fun with it. I admire it brother, you do good work. When is the last time you stopped in my ladies. They used to be sexy ladies, they are looking a little French now, quite hairy indeed....
Ahh, gotcha.

Yea, I offset the flowering periods in the cabs by a month mainly because they grow so dam fast in the aero tub. I cant veg for 6 weeks in another area then move them. the roots would be too big and tangled. But I can offset the second flower area and take clones from that and be ready for the aero cab.

Yea, its been a while, Last time i checked your pics were down.
Im gonna go check out the mademoiselles now.

Boy, you sure gave those gals a trim. I left a comment for ya.
 

cruzer101

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Thanks man. I have a roll of sheet metal around, I think I am gonna try using that. Great sharing ideas with you. :) I think you will love the curved screen. I am gonna give your suggestion a go on the next round and screen the back corners and wall to give more surface area. Thanks again!
Sure, no problem.

Hey, BTW I liked the idea of you floro pullin 2oz's so I went looking for your light. I see its HTG and I see that guy on ebay a lot. Anyway all I could find was the 2 55w 2 foot model. Its the 4 pin socket and has two tubes per socket. $69.00 Thats 110 watts and about 10000 lumnes.

You said yours was 220 watts. Do you have 4 55 watt 4 pin bulbs in there.
 

SomeGuy

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You said yours was 220 watts. Do you have 4 55 watt 4 pin bulbs in there.
:bigjoint:you caught me! LOL.. Yes, I have 4 55w 4pin bulbs in that one fixture. I had two separate lights in my original arrangement. I decided to take both fixtures and combine them into one. I run 2 2700k bulbs and 2 6500k bulbs. Been pulling about 2 to 2.5 oz every round on the flouro. Not too shabby but a 250w hps would pull more I think. But hey, I am making what I got work for now. :)
 
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