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It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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Here's Sub's post on snow dawg.....




I decided to create this Space-dawg and give all the seeds away for free. A certain smartass breeder that sells a Snowdawg BX pissed me off and it inspired me to shake up things, make a better Snowdawg hybrid and just give it away. In Snowdawg part 1 I detailed its creation as well as the history of many of Chemdawgs other famous strains. During a visit from Chem I was able to sample a large variety and I wrote a article based on this experience. The first story covered strains like:

Super Snow Dawg
Sour Diesel
Giezil
Sister
OG Kush
Chemdawgs Sister
Mass Super Skunk
Chemdawg D
Chemdawg
Dawg Days
Head band
In the first article I used information I found by doing research online. I found a post that detailed how Wonkanobe and Pbud met chemdawg and sold him an ounce of high quality pot for 500$ He found a few seeds in some of the buds and popped the first 4 seeds. The information went into detail about the following crosses:

1.Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

I like Cannabis history to be very accurate so I quoted the information verbatim. When the article came out in Skunk someone named “High & Lonesome” contacted Mamakind and accused me of stealing the entire article. The facts are I used 274 words that I took from online and actually wrote 1651 words myself. Regardless I made things write and he was paid at my rate for every word. He declined a signed book from me as he considers me a hack. I wanted the real story to come out to clear my name, I am never at a loss for words I just wanted the facts to be correct. Personally I think the guys a moron admitting to a cash drug deal and maybe that’s why the article was filed under “Guest” and not a Nickname I could name as a resource.

The Snodawg was my favorite of the samples by far and I was hoping to improve the resin profile and increase the speed of vegative growth. I choose our Space Queen male, knowing he would increase the potency based on his contributions to other crosses he has been part of. Over the last several months we have collected test data from growers and I am very happy with the results.


I would like to thank Ocanabis one of my official testers for all the hard work and amazing photography on this project. A predict you will see more of his talented pictures in print very soon. Other growers helped me with grow reports and smoke reports and I would like to thank all of them as well. Over 200 growers received a pack of Space-Dawgs absolutely free in different contest or giveaways put on by TGA distributors. I also donated a huge sack of seeds to the local medical co-op OGF.


The first grow reports appeared online in October as the first seeds started poking through the soil, Ocanabis started just 6 seeds and had a 100% germ rate. They were grown under a 200 Watt CFL and remained there for the first few weeks until transplanting where they were moved under a 400watt Metal Halide for more vegging and training. After the first week they were fed using Advanced Nutrients line of organics as well as Fulvic and Humic Acids. These are to promote a stronger root and stem structure. At just two weeks the plants were very wide and stocky with nice thick stems. Three of the plants were perfect and 2 had slight mutations possible damage during the seedling stage. After 16 days of Vegative growth Ocanabis had them on the following nutrient schedule:


Mix per 4 liters of water

4 ml Fulvic

4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
60 ml Met Tea-Grow
5 ml B. Strap Mollases
5 ml L. Karma
PH at 6.4-6.5

Fed once a week and water in between


Day 40 revealed 3 nice females with 3 un-indicated as of yet and all had a short Indica look with wide fan leaves and nice side branching. After 52 days of growth another plant indicated female and Ocanabis added some Iguana Juice to his regiment. All of the plants were very uniform bushes with tight internodes and very sturdy stems. They had now reached the point where the growing shoots had alternating nodes indicated sexual maturity. The plants were officially placed into bloom at the 60 day mark under 1200 watts of HPS Power. After just a few days in the new area the last female indicated making five females from six seeds tested.


[FONT=&quot]Once the plant had been budding for 2 weeks a new feeding schedule was implemented.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mix pr 4 l (1 gal) water[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

4 ml Fulvic
4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
40 ml Met Tea- Bloom
4 ml Iguana Juice-Bloom
5 ml Molases
Ph is/was adjusted to 6.4[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The plants responded well and visible trichomes were already forming as the first buds starting filling in. After 4 weeks of budding the plants started taking on characteristics that allowed Ocanabis to start selecting his favorite plants based on smell and structure. He described it as the smell of Juicy Fruit Gum only 10X stronger! The plants all formed nice bushes with four main branches and a large number of both inner and outer lower branching. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]After 6 weeks in blooming the plants looked incredible taking on attributes of Snowdawgs smell and Space Queens resin profile. The fruity aromas got stronger and the resin completely covered all of the plants making them look like they were covered in morning Dew but in fact it was THC latent resin! Even the outer fan leaves had resin. At day 46 Ocanabis started his final flush and also used stakes to help support the colas that were starting to sag under their own weight. He reported smells ranging from Bubblegum to Lemon Candy and also Fruit Punch, he was having a very hard time picking his favorite at this point. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Harvest day came at day 57 or 8 weeks just the time we like all of our hybrids to finish at. A plant has to be ultra special to warrant longer than 9 weeks in our gardens. All of the females looked like they were covered in Diamond Dust at harvest and even the smallest yielding plant was encrusted with resin and had a thick smell.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The first smoke report on this strain was turned in by Janjaweed a grower at the forums on Breedbay and he was also very impressed. This is his smoke report:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]SMOKE REPORT
<10> Potency
<10> Taste
<10> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<8> Indica Influence
<5> Sativa Influence
<1> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<2> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<10> Overall Satisfaction
COMMENTS:
These buds are tasty and full of flavor, but they are also very potent so
much that it numbs your head and after a few bowls my teeth were numb, like i had just been to the dentist
chunks of analgesic grapefruit, more of Indica effect. if you have pain this will kill it lol
people with low tolerance should be careful not to over indulge as it may cause them green outs and nausea.
Medicinal Strength: 11++
KEEPER?
<X> YES, favorite is staying indefinitely.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Everyone seems to love this strain and that makes this project to me very rewarding. My main goal was to work with Chems Snowdawg and see if I could improve its resin profile somewhat and we were very successful. My other goal was to simply do something no other Breeder had done before than I know of, to create a new strain for the fun of it and give every seed away to the growing community. The cries to make more have already started but I have already passed the mother plant on to another medical grower who likes Indicas. For me the fun was gifting something to people that others charge way too much for in my opinion. The fact that everyone that’s grown it so far is so impressed with the cross is well, Gravy on a biscuit![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You can check out my latest breeding project at[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]www.breedbay.co.uk[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Other Breeding stories can be found in “Dank” The Quest for the Very best Marijuana[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Available at[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]www.dankgearonline.com[/FONT]
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Thundercat

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5 your girls look sweet man! I wish my op was running as well as it looks like yours is. I gotta get shit in gear. Also a good read from Subcool, I love all the breeding stuff, and the heritage some of these strains come from. Peace bro, looking good, TC
 

DubB83

Well-Known Member
Looks like you got a hand full in that photo up there! I see you have a seed library as well, looking good!

~GG420
 

w1ckedchowda

Well-Known Member
Here's Sub's post on snow dawg.....




I decided to create this Space-dawg and give all the seeds away for free. A certain smartass breeder that sells a Snowdawg BX pissed me off and it inspired me to shake up things, make a better Snowdawg hybrid and just give it away. In Snowdawg part 1 I detailed its creation as well as the history of many of Chemdawgs other famous strains. During a visit from Chem I was able to sample a large variety and I wrote a article based on this experience. The first story covered strains like:

Super Snow Dawg
Sour Diesel
Giezil
Sister
OG Kush
Chemdawgs Sister
Mass Super Skunk
Chemdawg D
Chemdawg
Dawg Days
Head band
In the first article I used information I found by doing research online. I found a post that detailed how Wonkanobe and Pbud met chemdawg and sold him an ounce of high quality pot for 500$ He found a few seeds in some of the buds and popped the first 4 seeds. The information went into detail about the following crosses:

1.Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

I like Cannabis history to be very accurate so I quoted the information verbatim. When the article came out in Skunk someone named “High & Lonesome” contacted Mamakind and accused me of stealing the entire article. The facts are I used 274 words that I took from online and actually wrote 1651 words myself. Regardless I made things write and he was paid at my rate for every word. He declined a signed book from me as he considers me a hack. I wanted the real story to come out to clear my name, I am never at a loss for words I just wanted the facts to be correct. Personally I think the guys a moron admitting to a cash drug deal and maybe that’s why the article was filed under “Guest” and not a Nickname I could name as a resource.

The Snodawg was my favorite of the samples by far and I was hoping to improve the resin profile and increase the speed of vegative growth. I choose our Space Queen male, knowing he would increase the potency based on his contributions to other crosses he has been part of. Over the last several months we have collected test data from growers and I am very happy with the results.


I would like to thank Ocanabis one of my official testers for all the hard work and amazing photography on this project. A predict you will see more of his talented pictures in print very soon. Other growers helped me with grow reports and smoke reports and I would like to thank all of them as well. Over 200 growers received a pack of Space-Dawgs absolutely free in different contest or giveaways put on by TGA distributors. I also donated a huge sack of seeds to the local medical co-op OGF.


The first grow reports appeared online in October as the first seeds started poking through the soil, Ocanabis started just 6 seeds and had a 100% germ rate. They were grown under a 200 Watt CFL and remained there for the first few weeks until transplanting where they were moved under a 400watt Metal Halide for more vegging and training. After the first week they were fed using Advanced Nutrients line of organics as well as Fulvic and Humic Acids. These are to promote a stronger root and stem structure. At just two weeks the plants were very wide and stocky with nice thick stems. Three of the plants were perfect and 2 had slight mutations possible damage during the seedling stage. After 16 days of Vegative growth Ocanabis had them on the following nutrient schedule:


Mix per 4 liters of water

4 ml Fulvic

4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
60 ml Met Tea-Grow
5 ml B. Strap Mollases
5 ml L. Karma
PH at 6.4-6.5

Fed once a week and water in between


Day 40 revealed 3 nice females with 3 un-indicated as of yet and all had a short Indica look with wide fan leaves and nice side branching. After 52 days of growth another plant indicated female and Ocanabis added some Iguana Juice to his regiment. All of the plants were very uniform bushes with tight internodes and very sturdy stems. They had now reached the point where the growing shoots had alternating nodes indicated sexual maturity. The plants were officially placed into bloom at the 60 day mark under 1200 watts of HPS Power. After just a few days in the new area the last female indicated making five females from six seeds tested.


[FONT=&quot]Once the plant had been budding for 2 weeks a new feeding schedule was implemented.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mix pr 4 l (1 gal) water[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

4 ml Fulvic
4 ml Humic
4 ml B-52
40 ml Met Tea- Bloom
4 ml Iguana Juice-Bloom
5 ml Molases
Ph is/was adjusted to 6.4[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The plants responded well and visible trichomes were already forming as the first buds starting filling in. After 4 weeks of budding the plants started taking on characteristics that allowed Ocanabis to start selecting his favorite plants based on smell and structure. He described it as the smell of Juicy Fruit Gum only 10X stronger! The plants all formed nice bushes with four main branches and a large number of both inner and outer lower branching. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]After 6 weeks in blooming the plants looked incredible taking on attributes of Snowdawgs smell and Space Queens resin profile. The fruity aromas got stronger and the resin completely covered all of the plants making them look like they were covered in morning Dew but in fact it was THC latent resin! Even the outer fan leaves had resin. At day 46 Ocanabis started his final flush and also used stakes to help support the colas that were starting to sag under their own weight. He reported smells ranging from Bubblegum to Lemon Candy and also Fruit Punch, he was having a very hard time picking his favorite at this point. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Harvest day came at day 57 or 8 weeks just the time we like all of our hybrids to finish at. A plant has to be ultra special to warrant longer than 9 weeks in our gardens. All of the females looked like they were covered in Diamond Dust at harvest and even the smallest yielding plant was encrusted with resin and had a thick smell.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The first smoke report on this strain was turned in by Janjaweed a grower at the forums on Breedbay and he was also very impressed. This is his smoke report:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]SMOKE REPORT
<10> Potency
<10> Taste
<10> Smoothness (1 = harsh 10 = smooth)
<8> Indica Influence
<5> Sativa Influence
<1> Effect Onset (1 = immediate 10 = super creeper)
<2-3> Duration (In hours)
<2> Tolerance Buildup (1 = slow 10 = fast)
<10> Overall Satisfaction
COMMENTS:
These buds are tasty and full of flavor, but they are also very potent so
much that it numbs your head and after a few bowls my teeth were numb, like i had just been to the dentist
chunks of analgesic grapefruit, more of Indica effect. if you have pain this will kill it lol
people with low tolerance should be careful not to over indulge as it may cause them green outs and nausea.
Medicinal Strength: 11++
KEEPER?
<X> YES, favorite is staying indefinitely.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Everyone seems to love this strain and that makes this project to me very rewarding. My main goal was to work with Chems Snowdawg and see if I could improve its resin profile somewhat and we were very successful. My other goal was to simply do something no other Breeder had done before than I know of, to create a new strain for the fun of it and give every seed away to the growing community. The cries to make more have already started but I have already passed the mother plant on to another medical grower who likes Indicas. For me the fun was gifting something to people that others charge way too much for in my opinion. The fact that everyone that’s grown it so far is so impressed with the cross is well, Gravy on a biscuit![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You can check out my latest breeding project at[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]www.breedbay.co.uk[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Other Breeding stories can be found in “Dank” The Quest for the Very best Marijuana[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Available at[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]www.dankgearonline.com[/FONT]
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Where can I get this strain?

What's the 1 subcool strain you couldn't live without 5'?

Bout to start my permanant garden up in my new place and I need to order some extra beans :mrgreen:
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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beautiful work 5! that JC2 looks like it will be divine tokage.
It's funny you should mention that. I took a tester bud off both the #1 and #2 JCII and the #2 blew me away. I was falling asleep in front of the TV. My mind was free but it had me with a good body stone. I'm not telling much difference from the early buds I took and the finished product other than size on the Chernobyl's.

5 your girls look sweet man! I wish my op was running as well as it looks like yours is. I gotta get shit in gear. Also a good read from Subcool, I love all the breeding stuff, and the heritage some of these strains come from. Peace bro, looking good, TC
Thanks TC. I'm narrowing the field a little and by Jan I hope to have my op contained to just one room. I hope to get down to just 4 plants. I'll grow one of each in each tray and take clones so I can flower the mom's instead of keeping moms and taking clones.


Looks like you got a hand full in that photo up there! I see you have a seed library as well, looking good!

~GG420
Like I was just saying I'm hoping to narrow down my choices and down size. I probably will only grow another year or less. I want to put some away and take everything down for a few years. I hate having this in my house and don't want my kids to stumble in on anything I couldn't explain. But I figure if I ever do grow again I will have the seeds to do so. I crossed with all my males to get some variety.


Where can I get this strain?

What's the 1 subcool strain you couldn't live without 5'?

Bout to start my permanant garden up in my new place and I need to order some extra beans :mrgreen:
It was a limited run and he has already gotten rid of the mom that he used in the cross so he can't remake it. I don't know yet as far as living without. I haved only tried the Ch and JC's so far. The JTR#2 has already been cut down and removed from the garden. Not that I would rule out the strain but that pheno was not for me. So far for knock out I would say the JC#2 pheno. For good all day smoke, only 2-3 hitters every 2-3 hours keeps you high all day without knocking you out, is either of the Ch's.
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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No camera today. I chopped all the plants in tray 1. I haven't finished drying it yet but I probably smoked over a quarter off them before I even chopped them down. Looks like about 2 ounces, I just cut them off their stems today and put the buds in jars. Man does it look good. I wish i would have taken a pic of the tops before I chopped them up. The JTR#2 was a disappointment and the mother was chopped and removed from the garden.

I finally picked up some trays and took all the clones from the cloner and put them in soil. I threw away 2 of them and filled up 3 new trays and had 3 more in another tray. The roots were soooo long and tangeled that I had to cut them. The Ch's were starting to veg they were so big. They suffered a lot when I cut the roots and put them in soil. I didn't think they were going to make it. I used water from the cloner to water them and used a spray bottle several times a day and now they are snapping out of it. I will put one tray in tonight and leave the others to veg while they restore their roots. I cut more clones from the moms and put them in the cloner. I will be retireing the cloner after this batch or may even get some plugs before they root and retire it now. I need to cut back on my electric intake.

The new babies are doing fine. I transplanted them out of the solo cups and put them in some small pots. I will grow them big enough to take the tops and if they are females they will get the mommy pots. I have 2 Vortex (all 4 previous have been male) and 2 grapefruit.
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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I vary on the rotation. I was going for every 2 weeks but some times I put them in right after the one in front of it. They are either 1 or 2 weeks apart depending on when the clones showed enough growth in veg to go into flower. I let the Chernobyl go to 9 1/2 weeks and it looked like it could have went another week or so. The JC are in their 8th week , the #1 is done but the #2 looks like it could go another week and put on some more wieght. It will be sparatic til I get a handle on how long each strain takes and can group them accordingly.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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hahah how long is a piece of string i guess... shame the mother wasnt a keeper but oh well onto the next awesome strain eh 5.

next up Dairy queen for me. you firing your querkle in ?
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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I haven't given up on the strain all together, I still have the JTR#1 pheno. The Chernobyl has the same traits and is kick ass so I still have hope for the strain. My DQ #5 is in it's 3rd week today and is starting to form buds all over. I have 3 in one tray. It is already showing tric growth. I just started the 2 Vortex and the 2 grapefruit so I won't be adding anything new til I get rid of some of what I have now.....
 

Don Gin and Ton

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man trich growth at 3 weeks in is always a good sign! its going to make for some killer hash.

how are you growing the dq? topped to a bush or more SOG stylee?
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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Funny you should mention the hash... My wife wants me to make some brownies so I started saving all the trimmings from the plants. I will be cutting down the JC's in a week or so. All the different THC profiles should make for some interesting results with the brownies.

I just took straight clones and didn't top them. Some of them branch out and some of them just look like a stick of bud.....
 

Don Gin and Ton

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everyone loves a good brownie! mixing all those different strains may just knock you on your backside man!

i've got a whole bunch of popcorn fresh dried i think some baking may just be in order!

guess its pot luck then eh!
 

DubB83

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So your using those long planters still right? How manny gallons were they again? Refresh my memory. Do you have any new photos? I wanna see how your girls are doing, the last set is a great teaser. Looks like they were about 3.5ft tall or so, how are the genetics treating you? Are you happy with the growth characteristics?

~GG420
 

tahoe58

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hey 5 nice to see things continuing to progress well. Thanks for popping in ...I look forward to your next pics! Walk on!!~~~
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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Ok it's been a while so here's an update.

The next tray to come down is the JC #1 &#2. The taller #2 is Lemony smelling again and The #1 smells like mango. They are both crusted with tric's. I took a sample of both and will check them in a couple days when it's dried out.

The snow Dawg and the 2 Ch #2 in the next tray will following in a week or so after them. I took a small bud from the SD. I'm not impressed by the tric formation but that's not always what makes it knock out and they do have a fair amount, just nothing like the JC's or Ch's.

The next tray has 2 Ch #2 on the left and a #1 on the right.

Then are a few close ups of the DQ#5 starting 4 weeks this Wed.

A pic of the cloner. The 3 tops of Vortex #5 and #6. and the top of GF#1 have been cut and put in. The GF #1 already is showing hairs. All are showing but the rest are not far enough along to tell.

The clones are rooting and will be ready in another week and a half.

The mothers are recovering from their last trimming.

I took some JTR#1 and DQ#6 tonight. It looks like the poor #6 is nothing but a stick, but the stems are showing plenty of new growth.

I'm starting to get roots on the newt round.

A little pre computer write up helps set the mood. Now I can go to bed.....

Shit I forgot I took these out of sequence. Here's the other tray that will be coming down after the JC's. Ch#1 on the left and JTR#2 in the center (the last of it). The one on the right is a SD... Now I can go to bed.....:sleep:
















 

rasclot

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Ok it's been a while so here's an update.

The next tray to come down is the JC #1 &#2. The taller #2 is Lemony smelling again and The #1 smells like mango. They are both crusted with tric's. I took a sample of both and will check them in a couple days when it's dried out.

The snow Dawg and the 2 Ch #2 in the next tray will following in a week or so after them. I took a small bud from the SD. I'm not impressed by the tric formation but that's not always what makes it knock out and they do have a fair amount, just nothing like the JC's or Ch's.

The next tray has 2 Ch #2 on the left and a #1 on the right.

Then are a few close ups of the DQ#5 starting 4 weeks this Wed.

A pic of the cloner. The 3 tops of Vortex #5 and #6. and the top of GF#1 have been cut and put in. The GF #1 already is showing hairs. All are showing but the rest are not far enough along to tell.

The clones are rooting and will be ready in another week and a half.

The mothers are recovering from their last trimming.

I took some JTR#1 and DQ#6 tonight. It looks like the poor #6 is nothing but a stick, but the stems are showing plenty of new growth.

I'm starting to get roots on the newt round.

A little pre computer write up helps set the mood. Now I can go to bed.....

Shit I forgot I took these out of sequence. Here's the other tray that will be coming down after the JC's. Ch#1 on the left and JTR#2 in the center (the last of it). The one on the right is a SD... Now I can go to bed.....:sleep:
















beutiful just beutiful good job 5 :mrgreen:
 
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