Building single-plant growbox, I want your opinions!

[bigjesse1922]

Well drying it easy.

Just hang it upside down for a few days, until the stems "snap" when you try and break them.

You don't want to dry them TOO much though, as they will lose some more moisture during the curing process.

But you don't want them too moist either, otherwise you risk mold.

It should pretty much feel like weed you would get off the streets before you start curing it though, IMO.

 

[SimplyBaked]

when do you plan on harvesting?

 

[nickbbad]

Just a couple things I thought I would mention.You can get ph test strips for your water from walmart/home depot they cost like 5 bucks < Im not saying you need it but its a good thing to know. Dry bud weight is 1/4 of of wet weight and buds shrink dramatically once they dry. And from what I have read molasses will not really help you that much in your case because you are using chemical fertilizer which kills all the little micro organisms in the soil that feed on the sugars and produce the food(in organic growing) that the plant actually takes up. < I could be wrong on this last bit so I suggest more research into it but from what I read that is why its not used in hydro.

 

[GypsyBush]

Just a couple things I thought I would mention.You can get ph test strips for your water from walmart/home depot they cost like 5 bucks < Im not saying you need it but its a good thing to know. Dry bud weight is 1/4 of of wet weight and buds shrink dramatically once they dry. And from what I have read molasses will not really help you that much in your case because you are using chemical fertilizer which kills all the little micro organisms in the soil that feed on the sugars and produce the food(in organic growing) that the plant actually takes up. < I could be wrong on this last bit so I suggest more research into it but from what I read that is why its not used in hydro.

Bro, it's not the chem ferts that kill the bacteria...

It's the h2o2 that kills everything...

It just so happens that MOST people using chem ferts also use h2o2...

But I guarantee you that his soil is FULL of growies...

Molasses is a nono in hydro cause it makes a mess, and MOST people use chem ferts in hydro, negating the need to feed the bacteria with molasses...

Hope this clarifies more than confuses...

 

[nickbbad]

I was wrong after doing some more reading on the subject its the build of salts from chemical ferts in the soil or overfeeding with chemical ferts that kill the micro organisms and the fact that chemical fertilizers do not feed the micro organisms like organic ferts. So instead of feeding the micro organisms and the micro organisms feeding the plants they just bypass the micros and just feed the plants. Hope that makes sense. Oh and while Im thinking about it fractus if you do get those ph test strips make sure you check the ph of the water after you put your fertilizer in it because that can change your ph a lot sometimes.

 

[Fractus]

when do you plan on harvesting?

Whenever she tells me she's ready
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say a few more weeks.

I'm probably gonna try molasses even if it were doubtful that it would do anything, because I don't think it can hurt anything. But I can't imagine I've given enough of any fertilizer to kill all the micro organisms in my soil. Here's a question, if I use those test strips, is it smarter to test my water before watering or to test my runoff water?

 

[nickbbad]

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Whenever she tells me she's ready
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say a few more weeks.

I'm probably gonna try molasses even if it were doubtful that it would do anything, because I don't think it can hurt anything. But I can't imagine I've given enough of any fertilizer to kill all the micro organisms in my soil. Here's a question, if I use those test strips, is it smarter to test my water before watering or to test my runoff water?

Using molasses shouldn't hurt anything and may help so give it a go and about the test strips its more important to test before but it also cant hurt to test the runoff .

 

[GypsyBush]

Nick... in my hydro op... I KILL the organisms with h2o2 and just give the plant ferts she can use...

There is no such thing as "fake "P" or "K"... if it;s potassium, then it is potassium, regardless if it came from a lab or the asshole of a bacteria...

I just rather NOT deal with anything other than my plant.....

but that is just MY opinion...

 

[nickbbad]

Gypsy you forget I have read and continue to read your threads (I just don't say anything unless I think there is something to be said< your threads are long enough without me constantly saying good job) and I know you kill off all the organisms with h2o2 and in no way was I saying that chemical ferts are bad. What I was trying to say is what is beneficial in organics is not necessarily beneficial when using chemical ferts and vise versa and may actually hinder growth as is the case with h2o2. Anyways your trees are looking great.

 

[GypsyBush]

Thanks Bro... and I know you know bro... I used your name.. but I actually just wanted to clarify what I do to everyonelse that may be confused......

In reality... I'm just hijacking Fractus' thread..

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Buahahahahaha!!!!

 

[redivider]

i use cheap ass chemical fertilizers and the day after i put molasses in my soil my plants get just a lil bit stinkier... give it a shot... i'm actually putting more molasses than fert in the soil since last week... give it a shot fractus, let me know how it goes!!

 

[Fractus]

In reality... I'm just hijacking Fractus' thread..

It's a good way to get yourself heard because quite a bit of traffic comes through here lol. But yeah anyway the verdict is that it can't hurt, and will probably help, for me to give her a taste of molasses after I start my 2 weeks of flushing? I picked up test strips today as well for 4$ at walmart lol. I'll post some numbers up here tomorrow for anyone interested.

 

[GypsyBush]

I don;t touch molasses cause I grow hydro...

But lots of folks use it in soil and swear by it...

I prefer to keep it as a people food, myself...

As for your pH strips..

Kinda pointless now actually...

Your water is OBVIOUSLY good... or you would have had troubles by now...

You just got lucky though.. if you move or they change the water somehow (if not from a well).. the pH may change...

Test it so you know how to... but uh... really bro... it's working...

I'd be afraid you saw the need to change something and fuck it up...

 

[Fractus]

I think I will give molasses a try because so many people claim that it has great results. An improvement in flavour is always welcome in my books, as long as THC doesn't suffer. People also claim that it will help produce THC or some shit too.

Your water is OBVIOUSLY good... or you would have had troubles by now...

I told people my water was fine it tasted fine, but I guess that isn't considered to be an accurate way of testing water. Lol. Just like people tell my my hand is not a thermometer. But really it is It doesn't have an LED screen on my palm that tells me an exact number, but I definitely can register it in my head. I can always guess the outside temperature within 2 degrees at any given time, whether it is -10 or +16 Lol. I also can tell water temps by sticking my hand in a pool. A little off topic here but my point is that sometimes I don't need scientific readings to just know things. I have a sixth sense when it comes to guesswork.

 

[GypsyBush]

I told people my water was fine it tasted fine, but I guess that isn't considered to be an accurate way of testing water. Lol. Just like people tell my my hand is not a thermometer. But really it is It doesn't have an LED screen on my palm that tells me an exact number, but I definitely can register it in my head. I can always guess the outside temperature within 2 degrees at any given time, whether it is -10 or +16 Lol. I also can tell water temps by sticking my hand in a pool. A little off topic here but my point is that sometimes I don't need scientific readings to just know things. I have a sixth sense when it comes to guesswork.

BULSHIT.. but ok.. you can believe all that...

You just got LUCKY that your water worked out...

Fractus ... I have come to LOVE you... but boy... you need a little humility in you step...

Information is NOT knowledge ...

And knowing more than you lead others to believe is a virtue...

Let others inflate your ball.. it feels much better...

just a small piece of advice from AN OLD GUY that has been around the block a few times...

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I hope you realize I am not trying to be mean...

If I didn't care about you, I wouldn't even come here...

 

[potlike]

I think I will give molasses a try because so many people claim that it has great results. An improvement in flavour is always welcome in my books, as long as THC doesn't suffer. People also claim that it will help produce THC or some shit too.



I told people my water was fine it tasted fine, but I guess that isn't considered to be an accurate way of testing water. Lol. Just like people tell my my hand is not a thermometer. But really it is It doesn't have an LED screen on my palm that tells me an exact number, but I definitely can register it in my head. I can always guess the outside temperature within 2 degrees at any given time, whether it is -10 or +16 Lol. I also can tell water temps by sticking my hand in a pool. A little off topic here but my point is that sometimes I don't need scientific readings to just know things. I have a sixth sense when it comes to guesswork.

I hate to burst your bubble again, but tasting water is NOT a test for how it works for growing. Chlorine is not good for plants and it is added in tap water for taste and there are alot of other things that are not as good... depending on your area it may hard water which isn't good for plants either.

You still got plenty to learn.

-potlike

 

[GypsyBush]

Oh oh!!

I ONLY use tap water..

Does that mean my plants are doing BAD????

 

[Fractus]

Ok ok...with the water I got lucky, lol. Temperature not so much! I can REALLY tell temperature without a thermometer! But it doesn't matter if you believe me or not, I got a thermometer to prove it to myself. The only reason I can be a little cocky here is because I know I'll never get close enough to anyone here that they can punch me in the face Haha... Gypsy I know what you mean about letting others inflate your ball, you'd like me more if you met me, I'm more humble and rarely even accept when people brag me up or compliment me. But online I'm out of character because keeping quiet won't help me learn. I need to say the stupidest shit I can so that everyone is eager to teach me otherwise That said, I'm gonna go argue some more.

Chlorine is not good for plants and it is added in tap water for taste and there are alot of other things that are not as good... depending on your area it may hard water which isn't good for plants either.

You still got plenty to learn.

So do you. I can quote from a book that chlorine given in moderation IS good for plants. Also, it is not added to water for taste, it is added because it is a "highly effective disinfectant", good try though. The less chlorine I taste, the better my water must be. Both in terms of pH (based on the chlorine content) and also in terms of impurities. If there is not much chlorine in the water it means it was nearly clean to begin with and not much chlorine was added to disinfect it.

If my water TASTES good and clean, then empirically I KNOW that it has a reasonable ppm and pH, even though I couldn't give it a precise number.. Tap water is only bad for plants if you live where there is natural bad water, or it's recycled and heavily loaded with chemicals to compensate.

EDIT: And you can definitely TASTE the difference. I can tell good water from bad water by the taste. No questions asked. For all of you to doubt me like this is surprising, you must not be so in tune with your senses..

 

[GypsyBush]

Still "internet cocky as hell"...

But you are correct an several things there...

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and as a side note...

If you acted more like you do in the real world, I would have pulled you aside and HELPED you get the most out of that little box...

But you were TOO (over the top) argumentative...

And I KNOW enough, and have PROVEN (with serious photo documentation) enough that I do not need to prove every point to you...

And just so you know...

I still believe your box can be a major hazzard...

And YOU NEVER LET ME TELL YOU WHY I BELIEVE THAT...

You ASSUMED MY REASONS...

If you go back and read... you never let me finish my train of thought...

So I think you are luck on many counts...

and that you LOOSE by putting up this "front"..

You attract people with opinions.. yes... but the people you really oughta listen to... they just read.. laugh and go away....

You are LUCKY to have Jesse and Little Grower here...

They KNOW what they are talking about.. and still have patience for your "front"...

I know I don't......

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Now..

I MUST APOLOGIZE... I know I just sounded like an asshole...

hell.. we ALL know I am THE BIGGEST, RUDEST ASSHOLE on RIU...

But like I said,,,

I am spending my breath here trying to help you HELP YOURSELF..

And this "persona" of yours doesn't seem to respond to nice...

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So bro... if you want I can delete this.. just say the word..

But if you pay attention to the message here.. YOUR GROW will benefit....

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LOTS OF PEACE AND LOVE BROTHER...

I am talking to you here like I talk to my CLOSEST friends... keeping it REAL..

 

[Fractus]

Don't delete anything, but everything here isn't only for me. Even as personal as that seems toward me it could be equally helpful to anyone. But just to give you the peace of mind that you aren't wasting your breath, I'll have you knwo that I'm taking it to heart. And now you have me interested as to what possible hazards there are :S lol. I mean aside from the burning down half the planet because it's styrofoam is so flamable. I understand most people have lots of experience backing why they may say it is a fire hazard, but honestly, how many of them have experience with styrofoam as a building material? And if so, have they ever had it burn? I did my best to take all the proper precautions when I did this. What did I miss?